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#1 Jul 29 2005 at 12:00 PM Rating: Excellent
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Mining For Profit At Early Levels
By: Xnarusegawa
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Whenever I'm around Bastok, I always see a few new players (and even some in their 30s) ask how I get my gil. Most of it comes from other "resources" (linkshell friends XD), but I do go mining for my gil. This is how to make 30k+ an hour, and feel like you've accomplished something.

What this guide requires:
  • Patience
  • Ability to get to Bastok
  • Around 3ooo gil[/i]

    (Yes, you can even be level 1)

    First off, go to Bastok Markets (H-9) and speak to Karine. She sells maps, so buy one of the Mines. This will help you greatly, especially when new to the mines.

    Next go to Bastok Mines, and go to Boytz Knicknacks (H-7) and speak to the man himself, Boytz. You're first objective is to buy a stack of Pickaxes. Pop open you're menu, and create a mining macro:

    /item "Pickaxe" <t>

    Or (Reccomended by Pukushu):

    /targetnpc
    /item "Pickaxe" <t>

    Now walk to Zeruhn Mines (D-7) which is in Bastok Mines. Its time to start. At the first intersection, take a left. This will bring you to where you want to be. Now to start a path.

    Go clockwise around the mines, following the left wall. When ever you see a Mining Point, walk towards it and use you're macro.

    Mining Rules:
    1.) Don't stalk others. Not only is this against the new ToS, you won't be making friends. Friends can be very useful, especially later on.
    2.) If some one is at a Mining Point, don't take it from them. Just walk past, and walk fast, knowing you'll get the next one that comes up before them. ^^
    3.) If you encounter a "tie" to a Mining Point, you both can mine at it.

    What to look for:
    In Zeruhn Mines, there isn't a lot of valuble ore. However, Iron ore is common, and it is 600 Gil-ish at Auction House. Getting one of these pays for 3 Pick axes, so get 4 and you broke even! You will come upon the occasional Darksteel Ore, which is worth 20,000 Gil on my server! This will fund you for a while. Once inventory is full, go back and sell to Auction House, then take yourself and put Ore in Bazaar and sit in the Smithing Guild or Goldsmithing Guild. This is fastest way to sell.

    You're first 10k from mining:
    Once you've gotten 10000 Gil from mining (This will be 1-2 trips) You're ready to get you're first piece of mining gear! Go for Field Gloves and Field Boots (Level 1 equip). But don't spend too much, as you still need to buy Pickaxes! Once you have these, it's time to start you're next phase.

    Gardening and Smithing:
    This will take awhile to reach this point, and you may want to have a good 20k to start. You're first step is to buy Brass Pots from Boytz. Once you have a few, go to the Auction House, and buy Herb Seeds (Misc.), a stack of Water Crystals and a Workbench (Furnishing) if its there. Go to Mog House and place the pots on the Workbench if you have one. If not, place them on the floor. Now plant you're Herb Seeds. Remember to check them every Real Life day. Eventually, you'll be able to feed them, this is where u feed them the Water Crystal. What you're trying to do is grow Fire Crystals. You will get lots from this method. The least amount I've gotten were 4 stacks and 8 crystals, highest was around 7 stacks and 4 crystals.* During the time this is growing, you can mine for you're last piece of the Field equip that you need, the Body.

    *- Note: Sometimes (infact most of the time) you will not get Fire Crystals, and instead will get Bay Leaves. Depending on you economy, they can get a little gil (Bout 1k). Don't give up, you'll get Fire Crystals eventually, and it IS MUCH CHEAPER then buying them. On Carbuncle, all I have to do is get two stacks (2 plants out of 10) for it to be worth while. That's a good percentage.

    Harvest Time!
    Now that you have you're Fire Crystals, go and sign up for the Smithing Guild (Metalworks). Here you will spend a few hours leveling you're smithing up. You're first task is to make Bronze Ingots until you're level 2. This is made by using a Fire Crystal. Then add 3 Copper Ore and a Tin. Get advanced Synthesis Support to minimize breaks. On Carbuncle, you can sell a stack of these Ingots for 10k! Never buy the ore for AH though.

    You're second step will be costly. You must take those Ingots and make them into sheets. Use a Fire Crystal and a Bronze Ingot to melt it into a sheet. This will reduce its cost (4k/stack on Carbuncle). I only did this until level 3, but you can do it longer (until 4).

    This is the end to the Bronze line: Making Bronze Scales. This is achieved by using Wind Crystals on a Bronze Sheet. These sell for 6k/stack on Carbuncle, so It's break even. Try and buy from Guild if cheaper. Be sure to trade a Xiphos to the Guild Master to increase you're rank when you reach level 8. Once you hit level 10, its onto something new.

    This is the final item you have to make before smithing pays off. Fire Crystal + 4 Tin Ore. Take this until level 15. They don't sell for much, but this is the easiest and fastest way to 15.

    You should be getting a fair amount of gil from Mining while doing Smithing and Gardening on the side. Once Smithing has reached 15, you're ready for some big quick gil. Remember to trade in an Aspis (shield) for next rank at level 18.

    Finally!
    You're Smithing's at 15, you have all the Mining Gear, you're set for a nice, 35k+ an hour. Bring in all you're Fire Crystals, and some stacks of Pickaxes. You're going to be here for awhile. Whenever you get 4 Iron Ores, do [Fire Crystal + 4 Iron Ores]. Simple enough, yes? This will change the Ores into an Iron Ingot, which is STACKABLE! Now since every 48 Ore = 1 Stack of Iron Ingots, you can mine endlessly! On Carbuncle, you have no loss, as 48 Ores + 12 Fire Crystals is = to a stack of Iron Ingots (35k). What this does is save Auction House space, and Inventory space. This will take 2 hours (3 at most) to make two stacks. So thats 70k/day * 7 days/week = 490k/week! Half a million! If I worked really hard, and filled all my Auction House Spaces each day, thats 245k/day * 7 days/week = 1,715,000 Gil/week. All depends on how much you work at it. (Note: It will most likely take 7 hours at least to make 245k/day). Also, remember that you can still get Darksteel, which is another easy 20k, and that you have to pay for Herb Seeds, Water Crystals, and Pickaxes, which will account for making less gil/day. If you make too many Iron Ingots a day, you'll have to farm/buy Fire Crystals, which will make even less of a profit.

    Hope this helps, and helps out some newer players. You do not need to be level 75 to do this, it can easily be done with a level 1 character, as long as you stay away from the Slime, which is the only thing that aggros in the mines.

    This guild has taught you how to invest you're gil into a craft, and even though you were losing lots of gil at the beginning and barely making a profit, you now have an easier time making gil at a faster rate. This took me 3 days to start from scratch (Stack of Pickaxes and a Map, w/ less then a few hundred gil), however, I did have help w/ some ore from friends, (Thanks Khane), and I got a some Field Armor as a present (Thanks Aznmonk).

    Summary: How to make the most with the ore you mine.

    In Zeruhn Mins, this is what is best for you to do with the ore.
    Pebbles => Toss
    Copper => Bronze Ingot, Toss if not worth much on you're server
    Tin => Bronze Ingot, Toss if not worth much on you're server
    Zinc => Fame Quest for Norg (You'll need it later), Auction House
    Silver => Auction House (When nothing else)
    Iron => Iron Ingot
    Darksteel => Straight to Auction House.

    *Pukushu says that you should only keep Zinc, Iron, and Darksteel, as the others waste you're inventory space. Here's a good rule to go by: Keep all ore until you're running low on inventory space. Then, if you're not going to compress it into an ingot, or hand it into a quest, then drop it. Start with the least worthwhile ores, but stop at Zinc like Pukushu said. However, if you want to keep everything, then you're going to have to make a trip to town.

    Recipies:

    Bronze Ingot = Fire Crystal + Copper Ore (x3) + Tin Ore
    Bronze Sheet = Fire Crystal + Bronze Ingot
    Bronze Scales = Wind Crystal + Bronze Sheet
    Tin Ingot = Fire Crystal + Tin Ore (x4)
    Iron Ingot = Fire Crystal + Iron Ore (x4)

    Gardening:
    Brass Pot + Herb Seeds + Water Crystal = Fire Crystals

    Farming While Mining
    SuiRyu suggested that you should farm while mining, but don't take other people's monsters if they are leveling. This is what he had to say:
    Quote from SuiRyu:
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    I would like to add that the mobs in there might be worth farming depending on your economy.

    Bats: Wings, Fiend Blood
    Worm: Zinc, Flint Stones, Silver
    Crabs: Salt

    Every mob drops Zeruhn Soot

    Sometimes I get more gil farming mobs than I do from mining. Try not to kill em all if there are people trying to level up ^^


    Here's what you need to do with them:

    [li]Bat Wings: 1oooG/stack. Probably worth more in San d'Oria where the Fear of the Dark quest is.

  • Fiend Blood: 7ooG/each, 8oooG/stack. Stacks hardly sell or are selling it seems from price history. I'd definately reccomend this if you're starting. Drop is pretty rare though I would assume.

  • Zinc Ore & Silver Ore: More Ore, yay.^^

  • Flint Stone: Best advice: Hand in for
  • Flash in the Pan[/li]
  • Rock Salt: Worthless on my server unless in stack, which sells for 1oooG.

  • Zeruhn Soot: Hand in for Minesweeper quest, or sell at Auction House, 1o,oooG/stack on my server!


  • Fame: It Matters
    (This section inspired by Pukushu)
    All those silly quests that you're doing may feel like it doesn't have an impact, but actually it does! The first noticable thing about doing these quests, is the price of Pickaxes goes down. Mine is currently around 190/each, but when I started I clearly remember that they were over 200.

    Also, as you get more fame, more quests will open. One of the important ones are the Gobbie Bag Quests, which allows you to increase the amount of items you're able to hold. This allows you to stay in the Mines a lot longer! Fame can be hard to attain later in the game, and you'll have to dish out gil to get high amounts. Start early and you won't notice any problems later on.

    Extra: Goldsmithing
    Zinc Ore isn't as common as Iron, but you'll find lots of it. And on rare occasions, you'll even get Silver Ore. Well, if you're serious about mining, you may want to pick up Goldsmithing too. This will allow you to stack the Zinc and maybe even make a profit off of it.
    I'd reccomend this guide to help you level Gold Smithing:
    Goldsmithing guide 0-40. Where to go from here?

    Also for more info on Smithing, please check out this guide:
    Hitchhiker's Guide to Smithing. 0-100 & Useful Knowledge

    Leaving Home
    There are a lot of Mining areas out there, and staying in Zeruhn forever may not be best. There are areas where you can hope to score big, like in Ifrit's Cauldron. Gusgen Mines is another popular spot, although you may get aggro, as deep in the mines are some pretty high level stuff. As you grow, more of Vana'diel's areas will become accessable. For more information, please refer to this link provided by Seankp^-^:
    Mining Areas, Spots, and Rarity

    Pukushu said try out these spots, and told us what level you'd be safe at:
    Zeruhn Mines: Level 1
    Palborough Mines: Level 25+ (The 3rd floor can aggro until 30)
    Yuhgott Grotto: Level 30
    Gusgen Mines: Level 48
    Oldton Movalpolis: Level 55
    Newton Movalpolis: Read Below
    Ifrits Cauldron: Aggros at all Levels

    Thanks to ambusher for some levels of where you'll be safe.

    Seankp gave very very good advice on mining in Movalpolis!
    Seankp wrote:
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    For those wondering about Oldton and Newton Movapolos: Oldton, I'd say level 60+ is good, only 1 or 2 mobs will aggro at level 60 in Oldton Movapolos, and neither are close to mining points.

    Newton Movapolos... Mobs vary from EP to VT to a level 75. All Goblins, Moblins, and Bugbears are sight aggro only. There are also bats, and like usual, bats aggro to sound. It's not too hard to mine here, I've explored it a bit, while looking for the Treasure Coffer for the map and I ran past several mining points, and no one was there but me. Newton is very empty, no one goes there unless they need to. Reasons people go there are to farm Gold Keys(For a part PM 5-3), Sylvan Stone farming(ENM item), or traveling to the BC there for ENM/missions, or possibly that new force spawn NM located there. Other than that, it is VERY rare to see people actually mine in Newton.

    Reasons for that are that there are gates that are controlled by Furnaces. To make a Furnace change the gates, you need to trade Firesand to it. This causes a small explosion and the gates change.

    Unlike Ifrit's Cauldron, this place is MUCH safer to mine. No magic aggro mobs to my knowledge in Newton. Most of the Mining Points that I spotted while exploring were safe and seemed easily accessable for someone to mine them.

    Just a note, bring a warp scroll or warp cudgal if you can't teleport/warp out yourself. It's not necessary, but one can easily get lost without a map.

    As a precaution, I'd recommend a stack of Firesand just in case.

    Enjoy :)

    ...I couldn't have put it any better. Thanks Seankp!!!^-^
    One thing I'd like to add, commented by Sepukku and VanyalRagnarok is that the lowest monster level is 63, which is the Succubus Bats (I think, can't remember fully). However... nothing aggros by sound... only sight. So... Seankp said:
    Quote:
    Some added information about Newton Movopalos.

    Nothing aggros to sound, the bats there don't aggro period. Unless of course you heal next to them, but that's a given by almost all mobs to aggro to healing. It's weird I fully expected them to aggro me last night while looking for a Treasure Coffer for a friend, but they didn't.

    So this means in Newton you only need INVIS and nothing else, other than the firesand for the gates.

    Mobs in Newton con EP to VT to me at level 75. VT being a select few mobs like Moblin Scalpelman(sp?) and some high level Bugbears. Aggro is only by sight, so you only need invis. There are no bombs in Newton either, so there is no magic aggro. I have yet to see any elementals there as well, so maybe you only need invis period to get around.

    If the above is all correct, then Newton is a very safe place to mine, and I may very well go try it out, as Tonko: Ichi and Tonko: Ni are very reliable Inivisible spells that last for 2 minutes+ and I can easily rid any aggro with Hide. (75THF/37nin) Unless that aggro has a pet bat in which case I kill the bat fast and hide quick.

    With what I found out last night with the bats not aggroing, Newton is very much safer than Ifrit's, although I am not sure if it's as rewarding.

    A good thing to do when mining in Newton or Oldton, bring a few stacks of lightning crystals. You commonly mine up beastmen armor and you can desynth them. Some have HQ results like Gold Ingots. Granted you'll need decently skilled up smithing and goldsmithing to limit breaks, this could be very profitable. Oh and some of the stuff can require clothcraft and alchemy to desynth.



    Version Updates
    Edit- Fixed Mistake about water crystals in Gardening section.
    Edited, Fri Jul 29 13:59:41 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Added Pretty colors and format issues. Added "Leaving Home" section. Edited and added links.
    Edited, Fri Jul 29 16:59:30 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Added side note to gardening, starting a percentage compilation.
    Edited, Fri Jul 29 20:47:18 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Fixed Formatting Issue. Also added the Farming While Mining Section, special thanks to SuiRyu.
    Edited, Fri Jul 29 21:42:13 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Updated My Mining Data and Totals.
    Edited, Sat Jul 30 00:59:32 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Added Fame, and little things suggested by Pukushu.
    Edited, Sat Jul 30 10:43:26 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Colours and Broken Markup Text
    Edited, Sat Jul 30 11:27:11 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Updated Information
    Edited, Sat Jul 30 16:44:43 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Deleted all Mining Data. Error somewhere, which invalidated the whole project. It happens. Sorry all. (;_;)
    Edited, Fri Aug 5 16:10:30 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Colours
    Edited, Fri Aug 5 16:25:05 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Newton Movalpolis Info
    Edited, Sat Aug 6 20:06:51 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Seankp with info. ^-^
    Edited, Fri Aug 12 18:59:27 2005 by Xnarusegawa
    Edit- Added aggroing levels.

    Edited, Sat Aug 20 17:13:32 2005 by Xnarusegawa
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    #2 Jul 29 2005 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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    I am really glad to see guides like this coming out. These are so much better than the '<craft> <to level>' guides. Those kinds of guides are good references, but if a newb comes in and reads one they can get to level 100 and not know anything.

    This kind of guide provides a lot. It provides a guide of how to get to a craft level. How to make alternate profit (diversification). How to reinvest by spending the money you make not on gear, but on making more money so you can get the better gear and then some.


    Great guide, rate-up and I hope you get stickied
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    #3 Jul 29 2005 at 12:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Thanks for the comment! ^.^ First guide so I was really shooting in the air blindfolded hoping to hit a target. ><; Anyway, if anyone would like to reccommend something, then please feel free.^^ Hope this guide helps, and I hope it doesn't make the Zeruhn Mines a crowded space. ><;

    Possiblity: I may add more on after you reach "X" level, try you're luck mining "Here". Zeruhn is the only Mines I've ever been to, so I'll try somewhere else.

    Now back to getting my HQ swimsuit. >.>;;;
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    #4 Jul 29 2005 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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    Nice guide. One thing that you left out was telling people that they needed those Water Crystals to feed to their plants.
    #5 Jul 29 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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    Excellent work Xnaru ;)

    May I suggest, mining in Pal mines occasionally yields Platinum Ore. Prices on this vary drastically, depending on if someone is pushing through the platinum stage of goldsmithing or not. 2 weeks ago, on our server, Carbuncle, plat ore was 25k again, but it's back up to 40k now.

    Good to see you working hard like usual. Keep it up ^^
    #6 Jul 29 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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    Hey Sean^^ Pal Mines sounds interesting, I think I'll try it sometime. I just got HQ swimsuit, and on my way to Bastok.

    Now when you say "occasionally yeilds", would I be able to get one like... every 2-3 trips? And would do you think is the pick rate on Iron Ore?

    Btw, thanks Japolo for that, I read right over it because it makes sense to me, since I already know what to do.

    :) Later yall. Comments still appreciated.
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    #7 Jul 29 2005 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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    Not sure on yields in Pal mine, never mined there myself, but from friends, Platinum ore is usually considered to yield like Darksteel ore in Zehurn Mines.

    But hey, I'll buy any platinum ore from you directly, need a bit of it to level goldsmithing some more :)

    Gusgen mines has gold ore I believe, but it's constantly crowded, and you'd want to be level 45 or higher there.

    Oldton Movapolos has Aluminum Ore and other stuff to mine up like moblin armors. Though for you, I'd suggest Zehurn, Pal, or even Yuhgott Grotto for your mining needs. Of course for the latter 2 places you'd want to be 35ish or higher to help avoid aggro from the Beastmen mobs. Yuhgott is a bit out of the way though from Bastok.

    For you, I'd say try out Pal and see if you like it, the points are more spread out, but they can yield better results.

    Here is a pretty nice link to check out mining points and results and thier probability.

    http://www.hi-ho.ne.jp/gulif/ziq_topeng.html

    It's japanese, but it's very good in my opinion.
    #8 Jul 29 2005 at 2:57 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Yep yep.^^ As soon as I'm getting on Ill try mining elsewhere. Added new colors and other info. It now looks beautiful, think its sticky material?
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    #9 Jul 29 2005 at 5:01 PM Rating: Excellent
    Love it! bump
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    Great beginners guide!!!

    One thing you should add about growing fire crystals. Yes, Herb seeds can produce fire crystals, I use Herb seeds exclusively and I can tell that it's not 100% way to grow them. Sometimes it grows Bay leaves. FYI, Bay leaves sell for 1k a stack in Windy and San d'Oria.

    EDIT: Oh noez!1! A ratez down for being helpful!1!1!!

    Edited, Fri Jul 29 20:17:27 2005 by HealYoDangSelf
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    #11 Jul 29 2005 at 7:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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    Yeah, I guess I'll add that, so that way I won't get too many newbies hopes up. :) Thanks for the advice!

    Edit- Rate down wasn't me. :( I rated up, but I guess it wasn't enough.

    Edited, Fri Jul 29 21:52:14 2005 by Xnarusegawa
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    #12 Jul 29 2005 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
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    I would like to add that the mobs in there might be worth farming depending on your economy.

    Bats: Wings, Fiend Blood
    Worm: Zinc, Flint Stones, Silver
    Crabs: Salt

    Every mob drops Zeruhn Soot

    Sometimes I get more gil farming mobs than I do from mining. Try not to kill em all if there are people trying to level up ^^
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    Quote:
    I would like to add that the mobs in there might be worth farming depending on your economy.

    Bats: Wings, Fiend Blood
    Worm: Zinc, Flint Stones, Silver
    Crabs: Salt

    Every mob drops Zeruhn Soot

    Sometimes I get more gil farming mobs than I do from mining. Try not to kill em all if there are people trying to level up ^^


    Hmmm... never really thought of that. I'll add more to this.

    Edit-Added more to this =3

    Edited, Fri Jul 29 21:27:14 2005 by Xnarusegawa
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    #14 Jul 30 2005 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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    very well put together and i cant agree more. this is imo the best way to make money as a sub 30 char. and the beauty is you can start as soon as you have enough to buy pick axes.

    a few things i would like to mention. doing quests like flash in the pan and the soot quest will eventually lower the cost of your picks, and will also eventually allow you ro get gobbie bag quests done which increase the size of your inventory. also the only ore you should keep are iron, zinc, and darksteel. if you dont make copper or tin ingots just drop them once you run out of space. and drop pebbles too of course. last my mining macro is
    /targetnpc
    /item "Pickaxe" <t>
    this is so you dont have to retarget the mining point.

    i agree you should explore other mining areas and the links are available but here are some aprox lvl to avoid aggro in the diferent locations.
    (parden the spelling)

    zhurn lvl 1
    palborough lvl 25+ (the 3rd floor can agro till 30)
    yugot grotto lvl 30
    gusgen lvl 50
    oldton movopolis not sure but > 50
    newton movopolis not sure but > 50
    ifrits cauldrin aggro at any lvl
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    ^-^ Thanks for the suggestions and information. Added it to the Guide. Just so everyons clear: Magenta = Person who Helped and Pink = Link (Pink Link, ha!). Thanks everyone. =)
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    #16 Jul 30 2005 at 12:24 PM Rating: Decent
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    For those wondering about Oldton and Newton Movapolos: Oldton, I'd say level 60+ is good, only 1 or 2 mobs will aggro at level 60 in Oldton Movapolos, and neither are close to mining points.

    Newton Movapolos... Mobs vary from EP to VT to a level 75. All Goblins, Moblins, and Bugbears are sight aggro only. There are also bats, and like usual, bats aggro to sound. It's not too hard to mine here, I've explored it a bit, while looking for the Treasure Coffer for the map and I ran past several mining points, and no one was there but me. Newton is very empty, no one goes there unless they need to. Reasons people go there are to farm Gold Keys(For a part PM 5-3), Sylvan Stone farming(ENM item), or traveling to the BC there for ENM/missions, or possibly that new force spawn NM located there. Other than that, it is VERY rare to see people actually mine in Newton.

    Reasons for that are that there are gates that are controlled by Furnaces. To make a Furnace change the gates, you need to trade Firesand to it. This causes a small explosion and the gates change.

    Unlike Ifrit's Cauldron, this place is MUCH safer to mine. No magic aggro mobs to my knowledge in Newton. Most of the Mining Points that I spotted while exploring were safe and seemed easily accessable for someone to mine them.

    Just a note, bring a warp scroll or warp cudgal if you can't teleport/warp out yourself. It's not necessary, but one can easily get lost without a map.

    As a precaution, I'd recommend a stack of Firesand just in case.

    Enjoy :)
    #17 Jul 31 2005 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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    Added what you had to say Sean, thanks so much. ^-^
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    You're very welcome :) And thank you for the mention on your guide.

    +1 and bump for the win :P
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    Newton Movalopolos (if youre still updating this) is aggro at all levels (Similar to Ifrits Cauldron). The mobs there are roughly Level 65-80, Ive never seen ANYTHING Even Match or Lower as my 62-RDM while in there.
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    I'm a bst65 and the lowest I have seen mob con in newton is tough.
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    Fixed. ^.^; If somethings wrong, please reply. Thanks.
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    Some added information about Newton Movopalos.

    Nothing aggros to sound, the bats there don't aggro period. Unless of course you heal next to them, but that's a given by almost all mobs to aggro to healing. It's weird I fully expected them to aggro me last night while looking for a Treasure Coffer for a friend, but they didn't.

    So this means in Newton you only need INVIS and nothing else, other than the firesand for the gates.

    Mobs in Newton con EP to VT to me at level 75. VT being a select few mobs like Moblin Scalpelman(sp?) and some high level Bugbears. Aggro is only by sight, so you only need invis. There are no bombs in Newton either, so there is no magic aggro. I have yet to see any elementals there as well, so maybe you only need invis period to get around.

    If the above is all correct, then Newton is a very safe place to mine, and I may very well go try it out, as Tonko: Ichi and Tonko: Ni are very reliable Inivisible spells that last for 2 minutes+ and I can easily rid any aggro with Hide. (75THF/37nin) Unless that aggro has a pet bat in which case I kill the bat fast and hide quick.

    With what I found out last night with the bats not aggroing, Newton is very much safer than Ifrit's, although I am not sure if it's as rewarding.

    A good thing to do when mining in Newton or Oldton, bring a few stacks of lightning crystals. You commonly mine up beastmen armor and you can desynth them. Some have HQ results like Gold Ingots. Granted you'll need decently skilled up smithing and goldsmithing to limit breaks, this could be very profitable. Oh and some of the stuff can require clothcraft and alchemy to desynth.
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    Thanks Sean.^^
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    #24 Aug 18 2005 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    Hmm.. I suggest putting your guide into the wiki (is this spam?). I don't think there is a mining guide, or much mining info in there right now. New information like this is great.

    http://wiki.teamavengers.org
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    I was mining in Newton last night. This place is a hell-hold. All you need is invisible. I ran past tons of bats, and no arggo so far. I have seen elementals spawn there, one near a mining point too, so bring prisim powders incase one spawns while you're mining and there are gobs/mobs nearby.

    There are at least 2 mining points there that are arggo-free. All others have 1-4 mobs patrolling. Be patient, and don't get greedy. Don't try to squeeze in that 3rd swing. I did, and the mob turned, and proceeded to kill me. 1-2 swings, reinvisible, wait, then mine again.

    Its best to go here with a friend. With the gates, moving around is very difficult. Depending on how they're arranged, only 4 points will be available to mine, and once those are mined, you're basically screwed. Having someone to rotate the gates makes moving around much easier. Also, have some form of warp, whether scroll, spell, or cudgel, it'll help you escape arggo. Going as pld or thf for 2hr will help buy some time.

    I also mine alot in Oldton. 55+ should be safe to mine w/o getting arggo. I went through Oldton as a lvl 59 pld, and didn't get arggo from any gob/mob/bugbear. Just know if you do get arrgo, these things link like crazy, and soon half of Oldton will be fighting you. Just a heads up before you decide you can take on that 1 little gob; his friends will come.


    As for the guide, simply amazing. Zeruhn Mines is an excellent starter mine. Crowding can be an issue, so do a /sea of the area (this applies to all mines, you'll be wasting your time running around to find points) Any more than 6 people, it be best to wait a few hours for some to leave. Getting gobbie bags and having smithings/goldsmithing at lvl 20 allows you to extend your stay in the mines, thus making more money.
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    Here's another trick I use for Zeruhn Mines.

    When I mine/farm Z. Mines I average about 10-15 Zince Ore in a 1-2 hour session.

    If you don't intend to trade them in for Norg fame. Bazaaring them right next to Talib is a great way to unload alot of Zinc Ore at a premium price. I use my mule and max her out with 30 Ore at 1k a piece. Its a great way to get a good price on your Zinc Ore without taking up AH slots.

    Also, I would like to add that bat wings are best sold in Sandoria. Flint Stones on my server seems to sell better there too. Check your markets as they may vary in price.
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    Very nice guide, I'll definitely try mining in Zeruhn sometimes and see what happens. ;D
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    aggro lvls for mines(needs to be updated)
    gusgen mines(48)-bombs might check ep but will not attack you
    oldton movapolas(55)- bombs and some gobs will check ep on your way to mining points, they will not attack you.
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    This is a great guide.. imma try this a soon as i get on...
    but im curious.... could you do the same except lvl clothcraft by Harvesting in Giddeus???
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    I'm not sure about Harvesting, haven't really done much, because I've never seen a profit to be made on my server. If it was, it would be solely for leveling Clothcraft and making money off what I make. I'll have to try it one days, but as of right now, my Mog House is full. In the near future I will probably do a Harvesting AND Logging guide, but as for now, I'm sticking to mining.
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    Just want to clarify something: seankp said that the bats in Newton don't aggro. Does this include the Dire Bats on the north side of the map? Dire Bats aggro in all other places, such as KRT and Upper Delkfutt's. It is a minor point, since there are only two spawns in all of Newton, but it could be important. For now, I'll assume he was referring to Succubus and Purgatory bats as non-aggro.
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    A weee bit late on the reply to Galkasquee, but to answe his question: None of the bats in Newton Movapolos aggro unless you rest near them or attack them to make them aggro.

    And I guess this deserves a minor bump because with the huge increase in prices of all ores, a mining guide is one way to bring in millions of gil now at very very low risk and cost.
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    i mines a snappin mole is that good?
    #34 Jan 01 2007 at 11:18 PM Rating: Default
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    Nice I find this really helpful. Rate up =D I like colors too, hehe.

    May I say something about the Herb Seeds? On my server Herb Seeds aren't that expensive anymore. But if it is on your server (or you could just be frugal like me, haha), the Stalking Saplings in Ordelle Caves drop them in an adequate amount of time. I would say atleast be Lv. 30+ with /thf for TH1. It helped for me in my experience. There's a bunch of these guys walking around so just walk down paths clearing each hall. Also Vegetable and Grain Seeds drop aswel. Sometimes it takes many kills till seeds drop and we're all "WTF?!". Don't get discouraged. Happy thoughts =D, think what your aim'in for!

    But I may be wrong with being Lv. 30 to be the least because there are still mobs that aggro. (I farmed as Lv. 50) Maybe about 35+ or 40+? to be more cautious. Idk x_x whatever you feel works out for you.

    If you find yourself exploring deeper into the caves and you have a voice saying your unsure, it might not be a good idea to keep going. I found myself getting into trouble even at level 50. Curiosity killed the cat.

    You could also look up some recipes to use those other seeds.
    Ex: You can use grain seeds to grow some Tarutaru rice for sushi (if you cook). Or just sell all that extra stuff! Your call!

    Hope that helps! =)
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    Good guide....

    I like the rules although I've encountered a handful of people who don't follow :\

    Perhaps also encourage them to level goldsmithing, Silver ingots sell for a pretty penny.
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    One thing kinda stood out to me...

    Is it -really- possible to get 48 Iron Ores within 2 hours?

    A part of me wonders if that's Really possible, on a couple stacks of pickaxes... I've tried Palborough mines, on 2 stacks of pickaxes, and got maybe 5 or so Irons, 1 Darksteel, 1 Gold, and a whole crapload of pebbles and copper, and a few Tins...

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    I've tried Palborough mines, on 2 stacks of pickaxes, and got maybe 5 or so Irons, 1 Darksteel, 1 Gold


    um... since when can get gold and darksteel in palborough? as far as i know, mythril and platinum are the rares there.

    also, palborough has never been a good place to mine for iron
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    I recently picked up mining a second time (used it early on, with very similar plans as the OP's guide, so yes, its a great plan!) and work a lot in oldton movapolos. I have also ventured into Newtown a few times, and I'd wager a pretty penny that the triple bat groupings (one mob, but three flying bats) do indeed aggro to sound. However, I'm away from my FFXI comp at family's house at the moment, so can't confirm. Will do my best to check tomorrow night.

    I definitely agree the single bats do NOT aggro unless resting (then again, so do too weak beastmen, the opportunistic bastards!).

    goldsmithing and smithing do go quite hand in hand with mining, as they should. Having both at a respectable level makes your mining a lot more fun and profitable per hour. Never forget your desynthing capabilities as well, as especially in movapolos (both old and new) a lot of moblin gear drops. Some are clothcraft desynths, some are goldsmithing. The goldsmithing ones all go into brass ingots, with a HQ3 on them of gold ingots, so that's always a nice surprise (especially when your goldsmithing is currently at the level to be needing those gold ingots!)
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    #39 Dec 12 2007 at 9:09 AM Rating: Default
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    I Found this Mining Guide on another FFXI Board and just thought I woukld share it with everyone here.

    I hope it helps you.

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    Mining might be the single most easiest, and profitable way to make gil in ffxi. Pickaxes are dirt cheap and they can be obtained quick easily. If you are a new player, and have no gil… no problem… mining is the way to go. Even if you are not new, mining is such a good way to make money. First thing… where do u get pickaxes? Easy, pickaxes can be obtained by

    Boytz: Bastok Mines

    Numa: Port Bastok

    Champalpieu: Upper Jeuno

    Ostalie: South San d’oria

    Upih Khachla: Windurst Waters

    They are dirt cheap, although they break frequently, but the items you get from them are worth much more.

    Areas:

    The first area I suggest, is Zeruhn Mines. The entrance is located in Bastok Mines. In this area, you can obtain iron ore, silver ore, zinc ore, copper ore, tin ore, and darksteel ore. You will get many pebbles here, I just discarded all of them as they are useless, but if you want you can go around throwing them at mobs to raise your throwing skills, otherwise they are a waste of time. Where the money comes in is not simply selling every single ore you get in the AH, but making something out of them. Bring yourself a few stacks of fire crystals, and start off by making cheap ingots. The first ingots, would be copper ingots, bronze ingots and brass ingots. These can be made by…

    Bronze Ingot(smithing cap lvl 3): Fire: Tin ore x1, Copper ore x3

    Copper Ingot(goldsmithing cap lvl 4): Fire: Copper ore x4

    Brass Ingot(goldsmithing cap lvl 9): Fire: Copper ore x3, Zinc ore x1

    My suggestion, is stay here until you have all your crafts capped at these levels. If you are a beginner, know that crafting brass ingots will not occur right away as you are not close enough to the cap to successfully synth it without breaking it and wasting valuable dollars… so…. Save the ore or sell them until you are around level 4 goldsmithing and start crafting them. I suggest just selling the darksteel for now, as it will sell for a very hefty sum. This area is useful for low level synthing and that’s all. Sell all your ingots in stacks on ah, they are going for quite a bit lately.

    Another area I suggest for low level synthing is Palborough Mines. In this area, you can find such ore as iron, tin, copper, silver, zinc and platinum. If you start here, you can do the same thing as Zeruhn Mines, the advantage is platinum ore sells for a little more. If you do not have at least a level 30 character though, I suggest just starting in Zeruhn mines as some of the mobs in this area will cream you.

    The smart thing to do now, is not waste the money you have just made frivolously, but use it to bring the crafting skills up so that you can use some of the other ore, like tin, iron and silver to your advantage.

    Tin Ingot(blacksmith cap lvl 15): Fire: Tin ore x4

    Iron Ingot(blacksmith cap lvl 20): Fire: Iron ore x4

    Silver Ingot(Goldsmithing cap lvl 20): Fire: Silver ore x4

    Hey guess what, now you can make 6 different ingots, and they are all pretty much pure profit. If you decide that you don’t want to level your crafting anymore, you can continue mining in these areas and be quite wealthy rather fast.

    What I did though, was took it further. I used the money I made from all of this, and I levelled my crafting even further. The next step, and you can use many guides to get you to these stages, including a blacksmith guide to level 91 that I created. If you did this, then you can now use the darksteel ore to make darksteel ingots.

    Darksteel Ingot(smithing cap lvl 52): Fire: Darksteel ore x1, Iron ore x3

    Other areas

    There are so many areas in ffxi that you can mine in. Some of my favourite areas are Gusgen mines, oldton movalpolas, and ifrits cauldron.

    For gusgen mines, you have to be at least level 50 to get absolutely no aggro other then the NM’s that spawn occasionally, and this are provides some of the best ore. I pretty much spend most of my time in Gusgen mines, as you can get your darksteel AND gold ore which either you can sell or make into ingots.

    At oldton movalpolas, I suggest being level 51, at 50 you wont get most aggro but there is a bomb in one tunnel that is intimidated by you half the time, and will aggro you. There are moblin leadmen that are in the way of another area leading to one mining point, but by now you should know that there isn’t just one mining spot available at any given time but at least 2 ore 3. Therefore don’t worry about it. This area provides quite a bit of good ore including darksteel and platinum, and a bunch of moblin pieces which can be desynthed or sold on auction house for pure profit.

    In Ifrit’s Cauldron, I suggest having a sub whm with invisible and sneak, as you get aggro here even at level 75. So why go here? Well in this area, you can get Adaman ore, and orichalcum ore, two of the most expensive ore in ffxi. I haven’t gone here in awhile, but I did get quite good at it at one point. You can find maps on the internet that show you all the mining points in all the areas, use them and master the area as you can make quite a bit of cash here.

    Finally, another area which I have only tried once myself is Newton Movalpolas. This area though, is death! The whole area is blocked off by big walls, that move with buttons. If you can figure this area out go for it, but you will get aggro at lvl 75 therefore you need sneak/invis… and therefore its hard. I wasn’t able to pull up any good ore, but you can get the newest ore, aluminum ore, which is use in blacksmithing and goldsmithing to make alumine/luisant gear… which is sweet gear. So guess what, the ore sells for tons.


    #40 Dec 12 2007 at 9:38 AM Rating: Decent
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    Here is some more information I found Posted by the same guy that wrote the Guide I posted before.

    I hope this helps you. Cause it helped me when I read it and tried to do it.

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    I am Bujo of Caitsith, and here is my guide to blacksmithing!



    Bronze Ingot 0-2

    Recipe: Fire à 1 x tin ore, 3 x copper ore

    Note: Easily obtain this ore in Zeruhn mines, do not wear mining gear. Keep these ingots, you will need them soon.



    Bronze Sheet 2-4

    Recipe: Fire à 1 x Bronze Ingot

    Note: Keep these, you will need them.



    Bronze Scales 4-10

    Recipe: Wind à 1 x Bronze Sheet

    Note: I suggest paying for support at level 4 for this synth, although it isn’t totally necessary it’s definitely a good thing to have.



    Note: At level 8, you can write your test. You MUST write this test in order to proceed passed level 10, otherwise you are capped. This can be said for levels 18, 28, 38, 48, 58, 68, 78, and 88…. Keep that in mind.



    Tine Ingot 10-15

    Recipe: Fire à Tine Ore x 4

    Note: You can mine these very easily in Zeruhn mines, again, do not wear mining gear.



    Iron Ingot 15-20

    Recipe: Fire à Iron Ore x 4

    Note: You can mine these easily in Zeruhn mines.



    Iron Sheet 20-22

    Recipe: Fire à Iron Ingot x1



    Iron Scales 22-26

    Recipe: Wind à Iron Sheet x1

    Note: This step kinda hurts, cuz iron scales aren’t worth much. Tough it out, and do your mining and its not that bad.



    Iron Mask 26-29

    Recipe: Earth à Iron Sheet x1, Brass Sheet x1

    Note: These don’t sell too quick, if you do this step slowly you can break even, otherwise what I did was just mine all the ore, and sell the masks to an npc.



    Steel Sheet 29-36

    Recipe: Fire à Steel Ingot x1

    Note: Definitely pay for support at the guild here, and you shouldn’t lose too much money on this one. I just bought stacks of steel ingots from AH and made them into sheets, for very minimal loss. If you need money, make it now by mining iron ore and sell iron ingots.



    Steel Scales 36-40

    Recipe: Wind à Steel Sheet

    Note: This kinda hurts, really its toughing your way through. Keep in mind you are SO close to darksteel, which makes money!



    Juji Shuriken 40-44

    Recipe: Wind à Iron Sheet x1, Steel Ingot x1

    Note: If I remember correctly, I did these ones at a steady pace and they sold on AH quite nicely. You will notice that as soon as you go to sell something, it seems EVERYBODY is selling the same thing in large quantity, kinda annoying… at least this was always how it was for me. You should break even, or make a little cash.



    Hibari 44-45

    Recipe: Fire à Tama Hagane x1, Lizard Skin x1

    Note: You can buy Tama Hagane for around 5k in lower jeuno tenshodo, lizard skin can be purchase or farmed. I took this to 45 simply because 8 levels away from darksteel ingots is a little much, especially since they are expensive.



    Darksteel Ingot 45-52

    Recipe: Fire à Darksteel Ore x1, Iron Ore x3

    Note: MILK THESE!!! I would mine them in Gusgen mines, WITH MINING GEAR! You can pull average 3-4 an hour, and its well worth it. If you are doing this, you are now making yourself 150-200k/hour… yah that’s big cash! From 45-47 I would keep your ore and wait until you had paid support.

    Darksteel Sheet 52-55

    Recipe: Fire à Darksteel Ingot x1

    Note: Again, this will make you quite a bit of money. My suggestions is to keep mining the darksteel ore, it is so worth it.



    Breastplate 55-58

    Recipe: Fire à Iron Sheet x4, Sheep Leather x2

    Note: Not a whole lot of money here, id definitely take my time selling them, and keep mining darksteel to pay for the damage.



    Nodawa 58-66

    Recipe: Earth à Silk Thread x1, Iron Sheet x1

    Note: These are the cheapest things after darksteel you will come across, although it is pure loss, its definatley the best thing to craft in my opinion. Definitely get some support from you guild on this one.



    Hien 66-70

    Recipe: Fire à Lizard Skin x1, Darksteel Ingot x1

    Note: Mine the darksteel ore, and sell the hien to an npc. You wont make much here, but you wont lose much either if you are smart.



    Darksteel Pick 70-73

    Recipe: Fire à Elm Lumber x1, Darksteel Ingot x1

    Note: Again, mine your darksteel, and the only loss is the elm lumber. When you sell the picks to an npc, the loss of lumber equals the value of the pick… so its not too bad.



    Karimata Arrowheads 73-79

    Recipe: Wind à Iron Ingot x1, Tama Hagane x1

    Note: I can’t remember if these sell well or not, they are fairly cheap anyway so do what suits u best. Tama Hagane again can be purchased for 5k in lower jeuno.


    Darksteel Nodowa 79-83

    Recipe: Earth à Darksteel Sheet x1, Silk Thread x1

    Note: Mine your ore, you’ll be fine. These do not sell well at all, so sell them to an npc. The other tactic, and it’s what I did, is desynth them… SOMETIMES you get a skill-up, and often you can break them back into darksteel… which u can use again for the synth… so its all good.

    Colossal Axe 83-84/5

    Recipe: Fire à Steel Ingot x1, Gigas Axe x1

    Note: I bought the axes off AH, around 30-40k. I then sold the Colossal axes to npc for around 11k. I lost quite a bit, but its only 1-2 levels so suck it up.

    Adaman Ingot 83/84-90

    Recipe: Fire à Adaman Ore x3, Iron Ore x1

    Note: You can make money off these, I suggest having support while u do this until around level 86/87. Also, if you have been gathering guild points, which I suggest, I suggest wearing them for the first few levels into it.

    Adaman Ingot 90-91

    Recipe: Fire à Adaman Nugget x6, Adaman Ore x1

    Note: This can make you money, buy them singular, seems people selling them in stacks assume we don’t have a calculator on hand, and they are overpriced.


    #41 Dec 12 2007 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
    Nice guide. I am actually working on one myself.

    If I could make a suggestion on your guide, I would drop the prices of the items or at least make note that they might vary from server to server. Prices on ore can really change what and where you should mine fast. For instance, Platinum Ore fluctuates from 4-8k on Diabolos at best as of right now. This makes mining in Palborough Mines not a great idea as the nodes are few and far between unless you are mining with a friends or someone else to help hit all of the nodes properly. If Platinum went for 20K like it used to on my server, then it might be a better idea. However, since it does not, you are better off mining in Zeruhn or Yughott's Grotto in my opinion.

    You didn't mention snapping moles at Zeruhn in your guide! I'm very surprised, as this is basically an instant 400~gil which can add up fast at low levels.

    EDIT: Forgot to mention for those who are on servers that Darksteel Ore goes for around 4K (like Diabolos usually), you can turn two of them in for 8000G using the repeatable "The Darksmith" quest in Bastok Metalworks.

    Also, you still get agro at level 30 from the top tier orcs in Yughott's Grotto so I would assume that you could mine here with no agro 1-3 levels above that.

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    When I get back on the game I would lovwe to lv both at the same time while I mine.
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