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#1 Feb 06 2011 at 8:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Ive read a couple of threads on this but nothing that really answers my questiong. Im a R18/L20 Gladiator, I have all of the other battle jobs to R10. I am having extreme issues with my ACC, I know people say that both Lancer and Gladiator have bad accuracy but what Im dealing with is ridiculous. I literally hit a green mob 3 times in the course of a fight before it killed me. All of my gear is my level or lower, with the exception of my sword which is a Optimum 27. My Stats are STR 40, DEX 40, VIT 60. I dont have a clue what to do. I cant even level my Glad because I cant kill easy prey. I know, I know other people are soloing horned mobs, Im asking for help on what Im doing wrong. Please dont tell me what your achievements are, Thanks.
#2 Feb 06 2011 at 9:35 PM Rating: Good
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jalexan wrote:
Ive read a couple of threads on this but nothing that really answers my questiong. Im a R18/L20 Gladiator, I have all of the other battle jobs to R10. I am having extreme issues with my ACC, I know people say that both Lancer and Gladiator have bad accuracy but what Im dealing with is ridiculous. I literally hit a green mob 3 times in the course of a fight before it killed me. All of my gear is my level or lower, with the exception of my sword which is a Optimum 27. My Stats are STR 40, DEX 40, VIT 60. I dont have a clue what to do. I cant even level my Glad because I cant kill easy prey. I know, I know other people are soloing horned mobs, Im asking for help on what Im doing wrong. Please dont tell me what your achievements are, Thanks.


Equipping a gear (especially weapon) with Optimal level way above you results in penalty in said gear attributes.

Edited, Feb 6th 2011 10:35pm by Khornette
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#3 Feb 06 2011 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
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We're blessed with pretty bad accuracy it seems. You can certainly kill green mobs though - if you can't you're probably doing something really wrong and it's not your gear set (although stuff that fits your rank would help a bit).

Are you letting your sword go down in durability without repairing it? Because it wears very fast, and when your sword hits 0 durability your accuracy will /crash/. You need to keep it repaired, if you aren't. It'll go down under 25% too, but it becomes super noticeable if you let it get to 0. If you sincerely are unable to kill green/blue stuff, I suspect this is the problem.

Leveling lancer to get feint is also something you should do. That fixes your accuracy problem. And can be done super fast the way leve xp is now. Find a friend, run through some low level leves on high stars, and get a billion xp. Also do behests. You'll have no issues getting to 20 (with behest, you wouldn't even have to hit the mob to get the xp.) Feint helped me a ton when I got it. I was able to go from killing easy mobs to killing red stuff (although red stuff was never the best use of my time).

While we're leveling jobs, things you'll find help you solo throughout the game include cure/2 (conj) or sacrifice 2 (thm)and stygian spikes (thm) working in tandem to keep your hp and mana full, and shock spikes (conj).

Other things... acc rings seem to help more than dex rings. Although I have no numbers from testing to back that up. I'd still go w/ acc rings. And if you can find it, HQ weapons give you very strong accuracy benefits because weapons themselves have large accuracy stats relative to everything else, and the HQ bumps it up.

And lastly, mobs differ in strength too. Doblyns have no hp and no strong TP moves (which is why people have chosen them to solo to 50 on, mostly). Pteroc's aren't an awful xp choice at points either - especially the ones who only do back flip. You can entirely avoid the damage from that by just moving to the side when you see it getting readied (which makes the fights a bit more fun too, imo). Other mobs are much much tougher, even if they check the same color. So maybe you're just picking fights with problematic mobs.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 12:06am by YoliKohlpaka
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#4 Feb 07 2011 at 12:51 AM Rating: Good
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jalexan wrote:
with the exception of my sword which is a Optimum 27


This is most likely your problem. I'd switch to a sword your rank or lower. You will see a CONSIDERABLE hit to your accuracy and damage equipping a weapon before you reach that rank. I remember when I finally hit r40 using my goblin longsword(r40 weapon), my damage and accuracy skyrocketed.

Edited, Feb 7th 2011 1:52am by BartelX
#5 Feb 07 2011 at 12:03 PM Rating: Decent
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I think you guys are focusing too much on optimum rank in an effort to get him to do the "right" thing.

Having his weapon at optimum rank will absolutely help him, should be done, and is a good idea. But if he's not being hyperbolic about being unable to kill blue/green stuff, then the problem has to be something else/additional. I remember back at the start I used some pretty awful non-optimum set ups. And yeah it hurt my accuracy, but I was certainly able to kill green mobs.

I think the problem here includes a non-optimal weapon, but something else is chipping in to make it a real issue.
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#6 Feb 07 2011 at 8:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unless it is a typo, your problem is that you're using the blunt goblin scimitar, which has TERRIBLE stats. The blunt weapons are SIGNIFICANTLY worse than any other weapon of comparable rank (in fact the acc on the blunt scimitar is worse than on the weathered gladius that you start with) and are intended to be upgraded to better weapons (in this case the goblin scimitar) which is actually very good. Using that weapon at 18 just compounds the normal acc issues you'd be facing even if you were optimal rank for that weapon. Switch to a brass dagger and you're acc and damage should be significantly better.

Summary: your issue is that you are using an overranked weapon that was never intended to be used in the first place.

If that was a typo...
Things that contribute to Accuracy:

Relative rank
Weapon rank/acc
Dex
+acc gear (Namely, and to my knowledge only, rings)
+ dex gear (possibly? I suspect its true but I can't say with 100% certainty it makes a difference)


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#7 Feb 08 2011 at 12:59 PM Rating: Good
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might want to try finding some boiled bream or some tuna miquabobs as well
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#8 Feb 08 2011 at 9:59 PM Rating: Good
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YoliKohlpaka wrote:
I think you guys are focusing too much on optimum rank in an effort to get him to do the "right" thing.

Having his weapon at optimum rank will absolutely help him, should be done, and is a good idea. But if he's not being hyperbolic about being unable to kill blue/green stuff, then the problem has to be something else/additional. I remember back at the start I used some pretty awful non-optimum set ups. And yeah it hurt my accuracy, but I was certainly able to kill green mobs.

I think the problem here includes a non-optimal weapon, but something else is chipping in to make it a real issue.


Optimum r27 on an r18 is pretty significant. Certainly there might be other factors, such as swapping in 4 +4 acc rings to get him over the threshold, or going w/ a +1/+2/+3 version of the weapon, or as Olo said, using +acc food, but I'd say the optimal rank weapon is his biggest issue hands down. I noticed that every time I've used a sub-optimal rank weapon, i've taken a considerable hit to my accuracy.
#9 Feb 09 2011 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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like everyone said already you using that R27 weapon at R18 is not gonna help you at all, weapons unlike armor give a much bigger penalty when used at a non optimal rank, even so if the difference is 1 lvl. Wearing a higher lvl armor usually is ok but using a higher lvl weapon than your rank usually means your gimping yourself really bad.

Also like FinalSwag mentioned your using a blunt version of a weapon that was never meant to used in that stage anyways. Unless you upgrade it to its final stage its gonna suck and suck real bad both the Ash Macuahuitl and Iron Gladius are lower ranks and their stats are much better than the Blunt Goblin Scimitar.

People need to stop playing dress up and wanna look cool and just look at the dam stats and gear attributes page already, its not that hard to friggin see your numbers drop when you are using a non optimal weapon and your numbers go up when you are using a optimal weapon. Also you can see the stats of the blunt goblin scimitar and compare it to other weapons, I'm sure Attack: 92 is better than Attack: 49.

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#10 Feb 13 2011 at 2:42 AM Rating: Good
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IMO at that lvl maybe you should lvl other classes so u can get bonus stats to allot for Lv'in your Char (not rank). Might help with killing green to yellows.
#11 Feb 14 2011 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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So, to summarize:

1) Get a weapon that's at or just below your level.

2) Don't use the blunt goblin sword/scimitar. It's not a good sword until you fix it up. A brass gladius (level 16 sword) has much better stats than the blunt goblin scimitar (level 27 sword). For example, the brass gladius has an Accuracy rating of 104; the blunt goblin scimitar has an Accuracy rating of 63. And at level 19, you can get a brass dagger, which has an accuracy rating of 112.

3) Accuracy rings. If you're tanking, you'll want to use rings that give you HP or defense, but if that's not working, grab some accuracy rings. For example, try some brass rings.

4) Accuracy food. At your level, try grilled carp, braised papira, tree toad legs, or even grilled trout.

5) Keep your gear repaired above 50%.

6) Some mobs are just harder to hit. If you're having trouble with one mob, maybe try a different one for a little while.

7) Raise your physical level. Seriously, I can't emphasize this enough. When your physical level starts increasing, you can max out your stats for your job level, and the mobs become so much easier. I think many of us that are higher levels now forget how tough it was to fight even yellow mobs when we first started out. So do some crafting/gathering, or just work on some other jobs, to increase your physical level.

8) Many jobs have abilities that increase Accuracy. If you take your Lancer to 20, you can get Feint. And Archers have Hawk's Eye, which increases your accuracy for one swing.

9) I don't think anyone else has asked this, but you are equipping a shield and using the Guard ability, right? When your shield arm drops, you need to press Guard again to raise it. (Sorry if you already know this. It just seems like you should be able to last a long, long time against green mobs, if you're using a rank appropriate shield and using Guard ability correctly.)

10) Try not to get too frustrated. Keep in mind that it's all just dice rolls going on behind the scenes. Sometimes you're going to get really lucky and hit every time. Sometimes you're going to get really unlucky and miss every time. One time, I was in a party with my Marauder, and didn't hit a single mob throughout an entire leve. Sometimes that stuff just happens.
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