I'm extremely pressed to find a replacement for plumed willow shortbow. The mats to make Ironclad Cavalry Bow are extremely rare and worse, it's extremely hard to make. I've seen one today and the guy won't even sell it to me. I have plenty of gil, with nobody up for the taking. Being gimped this early in the game is grating my nerve.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
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Go for the Elm velocity bow level 31. It only took me an hour to get the mats:
Scale glue
hempen yarn
hempen bowstring
sheep leather
2 elm lumber
crow feather
Takes a level 40 carpenter to make (just go hang around the carpenter guild in gridania)
Scale glue
hempen yarn
hempen bowstring
sheep leather
2 elm lumber
crow feather
Takes a level 40 carpenter to make (just go hang around the carpenter guild in gridania)
Irishclass777 said: crafting is crafting no matter the game just because crafting is a job in ffxiv don't it much change much.
It seems that the weevil bow is more common. I've seen many recently post patch and I've yet to see the elm velocity bow. Perhaps its just my server though.
Ironclad Calvary Bow is R24, the others mentioned, Elm Velocity and Weevil Bow, are R31 and R32 bows. If you are looking that hard for R24 chances are he is not even R28 for Ash Longbow, so I do not recommend either Elm Velocity or Weevil Bow. Only in rare cases is equipping a higher rank weapon beneficial, like using iron spear at R21 over brass spear.
Even if you can find this bow, do not expect it to be cheap.
Even if you can find this bow, do not expect it to be cheap.
TrippSteals wrote:
I'm extremely pressed to find a replacement for plumed willow shortbow. The mats to make Ironclad Cavalry Bow are extremely rare and worse, it's extremely hard to make. I've seen one today and the guy won't even sell it to me. I have plenty of gil, with nobody up for the taking. Being gimped this early in the game is grating my nerve.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
It's used to make a r34 Bow, what do you expect? It's a premium bow, since you can use it at r14, r24 and r34. There's Willow Composite Bow at r22 as an alternative. And no you're not extremely pressed to find a replacement for Plumed Willow Shortbow, there are only 7 levels difference between it and dirt cheap common Ash Long Bow, other classes have to wait up to 10 levels for an upgrade.
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Khornette wrote:
TrippSteals wrote:
I'm extremely pressed to find a replacement for plumed willow shortbow. The mats to make Ironclad Cavalry Bow are extremely rare and worse, it's extremely hard to make. I've seen one today and the guy won't even sell it to me. I have plenty of gil, with nobody up for the taking. Being gimped this early in the game is grating my nerve.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
It's used to make a r34 Bow, what do you expect? It's a premium bow, since you can use it at r14, r24 and r34. There's Willow Composite Bow at r22 as an alternative. And no you're not extremely pressed to find a replacement for Plumed Willow Shortbow, there are only 7 levels difference between it and dirt cheap common Ash Long Bow, other classes have to wait up to 10 levels for an upgrade.
This is an extremely random and nonsensical comment. What class exactly has to wait 10 ranks choosing an alternative between 21-31? None, archers are the only class which has a problem finding weapons its rank.
The big difference between the velocity bow and the weevil bow (other than that the weevil bow looks pretty awesome) is the repair material. For the Elm velocity bow, you just need an elm branch and 21 carpentry skills. For the weevil bow, you have to have a weevil scale which is harder to come by.
Irishclass777 said: crafting is crafting no matter the game just because crafting is a job in ffxiv don't it much change much.
If you cannot find someone selling it, find the material and bring them to the crafters to make. Find them in around repair NPC or respective guild.
TrippSteals wrote:
Khornette wrote:
TrippSteals wrote:
I'm extremely pressed to find a replacement for plumed willow shortbow. The mats to make Ironclad Cavalry Bow are extremely rare and worse, it's extremely hard to make. I've seen one today and the guy won't even sell it to me. I have plenty of gil, with nobody up for the taking. Being gimped this early in the game is grating my nerve.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
What was SE thinking when they made this crafting system? Why is a rank 30 mat required to make equipment that 5-10 ranks lower than optimal rank of use? Worse yet, some mats require ranks 3-4 time higher than the actual process itself.
Why does the Cavalry Bow require a rank 40 alchemist to make Carbon Fiber? It makes absolutely now sense.
It's used to make a r34 Bow, what do you expect? It's a premium bow, since you can use it at r14, r24 and r34. There's Willow Composite Bow at r22 as an alternative. And no you're not extremely pressed to find a replacement for Plumed Willow Shortbow, there are only 7 levels difference between it and dirt cheap common Ash Long Bow, other classes have to wait up to 10 levels for an upgrade.
This is an extremely random and nonsensical comment. What class exactly has to wait 10 ranks choosing an alternative between 21-31? None, archers are the only class which has a problem finding weapons its rank.
Oh no you don't, you have bow at r14, r18, r21, r22, r24, r28, r31, r32, r34. LNC has spear at r16, r26 (10 levels yo), r28, r29, r32, r36. MRD has axes at r10, r20 (10 levels again yo), r21, r26, r30, r35, r36. No, you have way more bows per ranks than both LNC and MRD. You only had to wait 7 levels from 21 to 28 because you refuse to accept the existence of both the r22 (which is semi-premium) and r24 (which is premium). If you don't want to pay a premium then you have to wait, like other classes. I have helped making both the r22 and the r24, they are not really premium at all (paid total 100k-150k for all the materials required), it seems like your server is uncooperative that's all.
Edited, Nov 29th 2010 9:21pm by Khornette
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What are you talking about?
You can use the iron spear @ r21.
The willow composite bow doesn't offer much difference in performance over the plumed willow shortbow. It's effectively useless. I already have it and asking for the r24 bow which doesn't exist because of the difficulty of 1) obtaining said mats for and 2) difficulty of processing. I'm willing to pay 600k-1 million gil for it. It's been a bounty on YG for past week.
Finally, The r14 bow doesn't exists. I told you that. It requires a r40 alchemist to make the carbon fiber. So, that's 10 ranks between 8-18 before we can use another one. I see brass and iron spears everywhere, r14 and r24 weapons for archer are extremely rare because the required difficulty and skill. So piss off, lancer ain't got anywhere near as bad.
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 12:39am by TrippSteals
You can use the iron spear @ r21.
The willow composite bow doesn't offer much difference in performance over the plumed willow shortbow. It's effectively useless. I already have it and asking for the r24 bow which doesn't exist because of the difficulty of 1) obtaining said mats for and 2) difficulty of processing. I'm willing to pay 600k-1 million gil for it. It's been a bounty on YG for past week.
Finally, The r14 bow doesn't exists. I told you that. It requires a r40 alchemist to make the carbon fiber. So, that's 10 ranks between 8-18 before we can use another one. I see brass and iron spears everywhere, r14 and r24 weapons for archer are extremely rare because the required difficulty and skill. So piss off, lancer ain't got anywhere near as bad.
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 12:39am by TrippSteals
TrippSteals wrote:
What are you talking about?
You can use the iron spear @ r21.
The willow composite bow doesn't offer much difference in performance over the plumed willow shortbow. It's effectively useless. I already have it and asking for the r24 bow which doesn't exist because of the difficulty of 1) obtaining said mats for and 2) difficulty of processing. I'm willing to pay 600k-1 million gil for it. It's been a bounty on YG for past week.
Finally, The r14 bow doesn't exists. I told you that. It requires a r40 alchemist to make the carbon fiber. So, that's 10 ranks between 8-18 before we can use another one. I see brass and iron spears everywhere, r14 and r24 weapons for archer are extremely rare because the required difficulty and skill. So piss off, lancer ain't got anywhere near as bad.
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 12:39am by TrippSteals
You can use the iron spear @ r21.
The willow composite bow doesn't offer much difference in performance over the plumed willow shortbow. It's effectively useless. I already have it and asking for the r24 bow which doesn't exist because of the difficulty of 1) obtaining said mats for and 2) difficulty of processing. I'm willing to pay 600k-1 million gil for it. It's been a bounty on YG for past week.
Finally, The r14 bow doesn't exists. I told you that. It requires a r40 alchemist to make the carbon fiber. So, that's 10 ranks between 8-18 before we can use another one. I see brass and iron spears everywhere, r14 and r24 weapons for archer are extremely rare because the required difficulty and skill. So piss off, lancer ain't got anywhere near as bad.
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 12:39am by TrippSteals
Lolwut? Iron Spear is r26 mate, or you can't read? You can even use Crab Bow at r1 as well, how about it? And like I said, you just don't believe r14/24/34 bow exist, then you have to wait. For LNC and MRD classes, they DON'T EXIST, we can't even get them even if we have r50 all classes and dig up all kinds of material, they just DON'T EXIST. The r22 Composite Bow offer more Acc, it is an upgrade. Whatever you say, it's still 1 level up from the Plumed Willow Bow. You can't deny it's r23, nor can you deny its existence.
R14 I've made them before, they are not a myth. You got screwed by your server ALC, so? How about getting them the required component and ask them nicely to craft it for you? Pay a fee as well? It uses Bomb Ash, Lightning Cluster and Fire Crystal, all are obtainable by a r24 ARC simply by doing leve and kill a few leve mobs. Oh wait, you don't even know how to? There are 1 leve at Cedarwood and 1 leve at Nophica Well that spawn Bomb, which drop Bomb Ash. Lightning Cluster is r30 Battlecraft leve reward. Is it THAT difficult to get? Been a bounty on YG for a week? Because people don't really rely on YG as much as they do socialising in-game.
Khornette wrote:
Iron Spear is r26 mate,
What he meant was Iron Spear used at R21 gives you better stats than brass spear even though it is not optimal. If I recall correctly you get 1 Attack more and same accuracy at R21.
But honestly, there's not much to complain, the game is still relatively new. We are lucky now to even have seen these bows in the game and know their recipes. The first batch of players who raced to R50 were gimped all the way.
These recipes were most likely strategically planned to have weapons slowly released into the game as the game progressed.
Also, don't rely 100% on YG. I always search there, but also search Uldah's Battleward daily. It seems like a lot of high rank JP players do not use it. I picked up an Armored Cavalry Bow +1 for 600k last night from a JP's retainer while NQ was listed for 800k.
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 7:43am by Bozmo
Quote:
I picked up an Armored Cavalry Bow +1 for 600k last night from a JP's retainer while NQ was listed for 800k.
Holy sh*t - That's a steal! Seems the Battlecraft Ward is where it's at for most things, huh?
-Kash
I "BAM!" therefor I AM!
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He simply doesn't get it.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Kashius wrote:
Quote:
I picked up an Armored Cavalry Bow +1 for 600k last night from a JP's retainer while NQ was listed for 800k.
Holy sh*t - That's a steal! Seems the Battlecraft Ward is where it's at for most things, huh?
-Kash
Yes, it was definitely a steal! My breath stopped, I rechecked it to make sure it wasn't the Ironclad Cavalry Bow looked pretty similar, and buy.
Battlecraft is crowded with too many retainers holding too much junk, I just skim through and look for well dressed retainers. I skip all the noob looking ones.
TrippSteals wrote:
He simply doesn't get it.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Yea I don't get it because the Ash Long Bow is stupidly common as well.
And ffs, I've made the Cavalry Bow before, mate bought Carbon Fibre in bulk for 100k ea. So yes, I don't see any difficulty in finding it. The ingredient for Carbon Fibre as I've posted is stupidly easy to get, asking a r40 ALC to do it for a fee is hard eh?
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 6:18pm by Khornette
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Khornette wrote:
TrippSteals wrote:
He simply doesn't get it.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Yea I don't get it because the Ash Long Bow is stupidly common as well.
And ffs, I've made the Cavalry Bow before, mate bought Carbon Fibre in bulk for 100k ea. So yes, I don't see any difficulty in finding it. The ingredient for Carbon Fibre as I've posted is stupidly easy to get, asking a r40 ALC to do it for a fee is hard eh?
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 6:18pm by Khornette
Your comments get more nonsensical each time you post.
So now I'm asking things to get done for free? Stop the Strawman and making up crap putting words into my mouth.
Just look at your comments. They make no logical sense. If you presume Carbon Fiber is 100k (which is a lie) each in bulk why would the Cavalry Bow be common? I'm sick of your anecdotal case that don't wash up to reality. The facts are neither the Cavalry Bow or Ironcavalry Bow are common because of the prescribe reason I've listed before.
I done responding to you trolling as you will get more nonsensical each time you post, you are starting to do my skull in with your stupidity.
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Done, found someone selling it for 300k.
For a fee is not the same as for free...
-Kash
-Kash
I "BAM!" therefor I AM!
TrippSteals wrote:
Khornette wrote:
TrippSteals wrote:
He simply doesn't get it.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Both LNC and MRD weapons are in plenty supply, neither have difficulty finding weapons at their required rank.
Yea I don't get it because the Ash Long Bow is stupidly common as well.
And ffs, I've made the Cavalry Bow before, mate bought Carbon Fibre in bulk for 100k ea. So yes, I don't see any difficulty in finding it. The ingredient for Carbon Fibre as I've posted is stupidly easy to get, asking a r40 ALC to do it for a fee is hard eh?
Edited, Dec 2nd 2010 6:18pm by Khornette
Your comments get more nonsensical each time you post.
So now I'm asking things to get done for free? Stop the Strawman and making up crap putting words into my mouth.
Just look at your comments. They make no logical sense. If you presume Carbon Fiber is 100k (which is a lie) each in bulk why would the Cavalry Bow be common? I'm sick of your anecdotal case that don't wash up to reality. The facts are neither the Cavalry Bow or Ironcavalry Bow are common because of the prescribe reason I've listed before.
I done responding to you trolling as you will get more nonsensical each time you post, you are starting to do my skull in with your stupidity.
They are not common in Gysahl? Lolwut, they are very common on Gysahl, because there is communication between players. Acquaintance Alchemist got over 20 of those Carbon Fibre over a month ago, he hit 50 3 weeks ago. How many r40+ ALC we got? Sure we got lots more, but your server have to have a r40 ALC, why you never bother to ask that person directly for a simple synth is not in my interest.
When did I said you are asking for things to get done for free? Like Kash said, for a fee is not for free. Lolwut.
You said the material is extremely difficulty to get -> False, all can be get through JUST GUILD LEVES R30.
You said the item is non-existent -> False, you just got one for 300k
You said no other classes has to wait 10 ranks for a weapon -> False, MRD and LNC
You said there's no upgrade from Plumed Willow Bow for 10 ranks -> Very False, there's Compoposite, Ironclade, Ash Long Bow before Elm Velocity?
YOUR comment is the one that get nonsensical everytime, starting with your whine.
I did plumed willow, ash, weevil bow so far. Coming up on 40 now. I've been happy with the results all the way. Esp the weevil bow. I dunno why you'd take a bow with 10 less damage when damage is the one thing that actually makes a noticeable difference out of all the stats(speaking of elm velocity).
I also took the Weathered -> Maple -> Plumed Willow -> Ash Longbow route. I'm rank 30 now (been trying to finish up leveling all my subs) and plan on using the Weevil bow next.
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Other than the level 32 Weevil Bow looking really cool, I think the level 31 Elm Velocity Bow is better. Yes, the Weevil Bow has a higher attack (Weevil 98 vs Elm 88), but it has a much lower accuracy (Weevil 148 vs Elm 157). The difference in crit is negligible. As for me, I'll take ACC over ATT any day. With 2 brass rings, two silver rings, and my Elm Velocity I rarely miss ... and not missing can save your life in critical situations.
Also, the arrow you use makes a tremendous difference. For general farming I still use warped arrows, but I iron arrows for leves and such.
Also, the arrow you use makes a tremendous difference. For general farming I still use warped arrows, but I iron arrows for leves and such.
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