Iron Lance vs others spear?Follow

What's your Lancer rank? Is the Battle Fork optimal for you? Also Antling Digger is weak vs Piercing it seems, but other mobs might not. Yes, there are damage type weakness, but people just don't bother much about it, cause at the end of the day mobs die no matter what you hit it with.

Oh and to OP, is your Iron Lance +1/+2/+3 by any chance? I bet a +3 Iron Lance is better stat wise compared to a normal Battle Fork.

Also if you're Gysahl I will happily make you a Yarzonshell Harpoon :p free of charge as well. I saw r50 LNC use Halberd though, so I'm not sure if Lance are that good, because Banneret Lance seems much better than Halberd which somehow has 50% Piercing, lowest of all the LNC weapons.

Edited, Nov 10th 2010 8:57pm by Khornette

Before I read this thread, I made myself four +1 Tortoiseshell Harpoons (R29).

After reading this thread, I made myself three +0 Iron Lances (R28)

Since you guys were checking out the differences between Battle fork and Lances, I think I was a little misled. I went to ants at R28->R29 today, but unfortunately I didn't pull out my tortoiseshell harpoon for damage comparisons. (I was doing insane damage comparitive to everyone else anyways) However, After the fact, I looked at my stats page.

For a 1 rank difference, Tortoiseshell has nearly the same attack, crit, and parry, however it has like 20-30 more +Accuracy compared to the lance! Seriously.

I'm now kind of regretting making my Iron Lances, however I have consolation in two facts.

1) Tortoiseshell Harpoon is 10% Water, and Efts, the main grind target from R27-R37, are water element. The worst two things you can do element-wise, is to use Water on its counterelement (Water vs. lightning mobs), or using it on the same mob type (Water vs. Water). Perhaps the Iron Lance would be better in this situation? It's only 10% Damage, and like 30 accuracy!

2) Iron Lance upgrades to Banneret Lance. I'm not sure about all the details and whatnot, but by making these three lances, I can just upgrade them to get my R48 weapon. Pretty sweet deal anyways.

I don't think that Iron Lance is the godsend you guys are making it out to be, but I don't know. How many monsters are actually weak to pierce? We need to do more research about that sort of stuff.

and I need to go find myself the recipe for heavy iron lances / battle forks.

Why don't you just test your two weapons and post the results here? It's not like you're doing Efts every night right?

I didn't get the impression they were godsends but in my own experience with them, they're doing great damage and I'm glad I bought them. I also bought them for the fact that I don't see myself ranking up to 30 carpentry (along with 40 BSM help) to pump them out but I will probably use it to upgrade to the Banneret Lance if my GS ever gets up there.



Edited, Nov 14th 2010 8:30pm by mygosity

iron spear for ACC
iron lance for dmg

I did some brief tests with iron spear vs iron lance at R27. At that rank I get 105 atk with the spear and 100 with the lance, however, the lance was consistently dealing at least 20 more damage per Light Thrust against both sea slugs and aldgoats. WS damage didn't seem to scale up quite as dramatically, however.

I only used Trammel and Skewer II.

Edited, Dec 3rd 2010 3:48pm by Omena

It has to do with the enemy armor type. Most mobs right now are weak vs. piercing. Generally speaking, all else equal, a Lance will do more average damage that a Spear given the weakness vs. Piercing.