Simple survey-ish question: What is your current DEX, your current displayed ACC and are you satisfied with your accuracy at the moment?
ACC 156, DEX 105 here.
I'm pretty happy with my solo accuracy vs yellows and lower. Will report back after XP tonight vs reds.
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DEX and AccuracyFollow
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ACC 151
DEX 79
You are aware of the Stat Soft Cap, yes?
DEX 79
You are aware of the Stat Soft Cap, yes?
5 posts
How does that soft cap work anyway?
26 posts
From what I've read, (2 x Rank) + 32.
People have tested it with vitality and at that number they stop gaining HP.
People have tested it with vitality and at that number they stop gaining HP.
That's the cap for VIT, but it doesn't work for all stats, and I'm not even sure if it's the same formula for all classes...
If the formula was universal, my findings on the topic of STR would have shown so, because at 14 the cap should be 60 for the stats, but increasing STR to 80 showed increase in dmg.
Linky : Strength testing.
Edited, Oct 26th 2010 6:37pm by Yabusame
If the formula was universal, my findings on the topic of STR would have shown so, because at 14 the cap should be 60 for the stats, but increasing STR to 80 showed increase in dmg.
Linky : Strength testing.
Edited, Oct 26th 2010 6:37pm by Yabusame
Acc 151 Dex 51. I miss a bit but I'm pretty happy with my accuracy. Using Multishot I rarely miss on reds. Queueing hawk's eye on other weaponskills nets the same result. The other weapon skills unbuffed on reds do ok tho probably 70%. I find that smoking down a yellow quickly is pretty reliable. A green is almost a no miss occasion.
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So far in the this thread, there have been:
105 Dex, 156 Acc
79 Dex, 151 Acc
51 Dex, 151 Acc
With the numbers, few though they are, that i'm seeing in this thread there are 2 possibilities
1. Main Hand Accuracy doesn't display properly, in regards to Dexterity
2. Dexterity doesn't do squat for Accuracy
I just reassigned points. Started at 79 STR and 78 DEX, MH Attack 67 and MH Accuracy 151. After reassign, 73 STR and 72 DEX, and my MH Attack and Accuracy STAYED THE SAME.
Either the soft cap is very low, the stats are not displaying properly, or STR and DEX don't do squat.
105 Dex, 156 Acc
79 Dex, 151 Acc
51 Dex, 151 Acc
With the numbers, few though they are, that i'm seeing in this thread there are 2 possibilities
1. Main Hand Accuracy doesn't display properly, in regards to Dexterity
2. Dexterity doesn't do squat for Accuracy
I just reassigned points. Started at 79 STR and 78 DEX, MH Attack 67 and MH Accuracy 151. After reassign, 73 STR and 72 DEX, and my MH Attack and Accuracy STAYED THE SAME.
Either the soft cap is very low, the stats are not displaying properly, or STR and DEX don't do squat.
UPDATE: A few days later i STILL have 156 ACC but I've lowered my DEX somewhat to a flat 100. I have to say, I didnt start seeing any improvements in my (perceived) accuracy until i started gaining ranks. I'd like to think that using better ammo and adding more 'Accuracy' stat does help, but maybe even that is capped? I just don't know. All i know for sure is that the greatest improvement I've seen to my accuracy so far was gaining ranks. Maybe that's a no-brainer.
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I did a little more looking at my stats last night confirmed that what is listed as my Accuracy is the sum of what's listed on my weapon and rings, and is not influenced by my Dex.
I'm not saying Dex does NOT affect accuracy; but if it does, it is hidden from the player.
This my friends, is retarded. We are alloted a discrete amount of points to allot to Stats, but we have no way of telling what those stats do.
Another one is the Out of Sight trait. "Reduce emnity of your actions by 10." 10 what? What's my total Emnity? They might as well have said, "Reduce the emnity of your action by blue." An arbitrary number does us absolutely no good.
I'm not saying Dex does NOT affect accuracy; but if it does, it is hidden from the player.
This my friends, is retarded. We are alloted a discrete amount of points to allot to Stats, but we have no way of telling what those stats do.
Another one is the Out of Sight trait. "Reduce emnity of your actions by 10." 10 what? What's my total Emnity? They might as well have said, "Reduce the emnity of your action by blue." An arbitrary number does us absolutely no good.
Timorith:
Check your gear. The ACC is a sum of the acc bonus given by your bow, your equipped arrow and any acc rings or armor you wearing.
DEX has been reported in other forums after parse test as 20 dex points = 12% acc increase.
It is then estimated that every 4 points of dex adds 1 point of accuracy to the listed stats... very much like the stat:benefit ratio seen throughout FF11.
There is no hard cap for dex and STR from what ive seen; rather there is a significant diminishing return after you reach the 'soft cap' for your rank. Overall its really a good idea to simply spread out your stats.
If at rank 10, phys level 25+ the soft cap is 40 (just using an easy stat number) then you're better off doing:
40 str
40 vit
40 dex
as your primary stats for archer then focus on the mage stats that benefit your playstyle.. i personally use magic debuffs whenever i can so for me mind and piety are important. so my stats would be:
40 mnd
40 pie
12 int
and rely on food and ability buffs for the extra oomph damage. Salted cod gives far more acc benefit than bringing my dex up to 60 (20pnts above cap).
Check your gear. The ACC is a sum of the acc bonus given by your bow, your equipped arrow and any acc rings or armor you wearing.
DEX has been reported in other forums after parse test as 20 dex points = 12% acc increase.
It is then estimated that every 4 points of dex adds 1 point of accuracy to the listed stats... very much like the stat:benefit ratio seen throughout FF11.
There is no hard cap for dex and STR from what ive seen; rather there is a significant diminishing return after you reach the 'soft cap' for your rank. Overall its really a good idea to simply spread out your stats.
If at rank 10, phys level 25+ the soft cap is 40 (just using an easy stat number) then you're better off doing:
40 str
40 vit
40 dex
as your primary stats for archer then focus on the mage stats that benefit your playstyle.. i personally use magic debuffs whenever i can so for me mind and piety are important. so my stats would be:
40 mnd
40 pie
12 int
and rely on food and ability buffs for the extra oomph damage. Salted cod gives far more acc benefit than bringing my dex up to 60 (20pnts above cap).
Whoa, whoa, whoa! What's this about Salted Cod? Do I finally have something to dump my gil on!?
Testing on this? Source? Do tell!
-Kash
Testing on this? Source? Do tell!
-Kash
I "BAM!" therefor I AM!
Boiled Crayfish
1/12 Seafood Dish
A crayfish boiled in hot water.
Optimal Rank: 20
Accuracy: +5
Control: +5
Recipe: Rank 4 culinarian
Grilled Trout
1/12 Seafood Dish
A fresh rainbow trout sprinkled with salt and grilled over an open flame.
Optimal Rank: 25
Accuracy: +5
Control: +5
Recipe: Rank 7 Culinarian
Salted Cod Puffs
Optimal Rank: 45
Accuracy +5
The recipes are from this website.. and they are mostly incorrect from the comments and myself having tried a few. Salt cod says its +5 atk +elemental resistances but to me it adds accuracy. Dunno if this is job specific when you eat it? Or maybe its race specific (im mithra)?
1/12 Seafood Dish
A crayfish boiled in hot water.
Optimal Rank: 20
Accuracy: +5
Control: +5
Recipe: Rank 4 culinarian
Grilled Trout
1/12 Seafood Dish
A fresh rainbow trout sprinkled with salt and grilled over an open flame.
Optimal Rank: 25
Accuracy: +5
Control: +5
Recipe: Rank 7 Culinarian
Salted Cod Puffs
Optimal Rank: 45
Accuracy +5
The recipes are from this website.. and they are mostly incorrect from the comments and myself having tried a few. Salt cod says its +5 atk +elemental resistances but to me it adds accuracy. Dunno if this is job specific when you eat it? Or maybe its race specific (im mithra)?
Skyfaller wrote:
Timorith:
Check your gear. The ACC is a sum of the acc bonus given by your bow, your equipped arrow and any acc rings or armor you wearing.
DEX has been reported in other forums after parse test as 20 dex points = 12% acc increase.
It is then estimated that every 4 points of dex adds 1 point of accuracy to the listed stats... very much like the stat:benefit ratio seen throughout FF11.
There is no hard cap for dex and STR from what ive seen; rather there is a significant diminishing return after you reach the 'soft cap' for your rank. Overall its really a good idea to simply spread out your stats.
If at rank 10, phys level 25+ the soft cap is 40 (just using an easy stat number) then you're better off doing:
40 str
40 vit
40 dex
as your primary stats for archer then focus on the mage stats that benefit your playstyle.. i personally use magic debuffs whenever i can so for me mind and piety are important. so my stats would be:
40 mnd
40 pie
12 int
and rely on food and ability buffs for the extra oomph damage. Salted cod gives far more acc benefit than bringing my dex up to 60 (20pnts above cap).
Check your gear. The ACC is a sum of the acc bonus given by your bow, your equipped arrow and any acc rings or armor you wearing.
DEX has been reported in other forums after parse test as 20 dex points = 12% acc increase.
It is then estimated that every 4 points of dex adds 1 point of accuracy to the listed stats... very much like the stat:benefit ratio seen throughout FF11.
There is no hard cap for dex and STR from what ive seen; rather there is a significant diminishing return after you reach the 'soft cap' for your rank. Overall its really a good idea to simply spread out your stats.
If at rank 10, phys level 25+ the soft cap is 40 (just using an easy stat number) then you're better off doing:
40 str
40 vit
40 dex
as your primary stats for archer then focus on the mage stats that benefit your playstyle.. i personally use magic debuffs whenever i can so for me mind and piety are important. so my stats would be:
40 mnd
40 pie
12 int
and rely on food and ability buffs for the extra oomph damage. Salted cod gives far more acc benefit than bringing my dex up to 60 (20pnts above cap).
I would love to see the links to these forums. All I find is tests where dex is shown to have little to no effect. This has also been my experience with it.
Skyfaller wrote:
Timorith: Check your gear. The ACC is a sum of the acc bonus given by your bow, your equipped arrow and any acc rings or armor you wearing.
Edited, Nov 3rd 2010 11:57am by Timorith
Lol very true. Then again, that's SE's policy of releasing no documentation at all. Its easier to plausibly deny wrongdoing if those affected have no clue how the thing works to begin with. Very Japanese thing :D
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not sure if this is 100% true but from what ive read from different posts on various forums dex and accuracy is broken, when the Nov and Dec update/patches are done things should be looking better
6 posts
I honestly don't really notice much of a difference with DEX on ACC..However..It does feel like DEX affects your evasion more than accuracy..I've noticed with higher dex..I have better evasion..(i.e. more dodges) but..I guess that could be purely coincidence.
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=92e2a2ee13f174b5a6f5f658135e1bf4ab725f29
DEX does increase evasion, says SE. Also accuracy but how much is a mystery.
As for the OP's question,
R25, 103+4 DEX, 147 accuracy -- I'm satisfied with most things I shoot (Blue, green, yellow). I have 4 Silver rings ready to swap for +16 accuracy if I really need it.
DEX does increase evasion, says SE. Also accuracy but how much is a mystery.
As for the OP's question,
R25, 103+4 DEX, 147 accuracy -- I'm satisfied with most things I shoot (Blue, green, yellow). I have 4 Silver rings ready to swap for +16 accuracy if I really need it.
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I currently have 156 ACC and 100 DEX
When I solo I use x2 DEX +5 and x2 STR + 5
When I group I use x2 STR +5 and x2 ACC +4
I slotted 4 silver rings and tested it out on a yellow goat. My accuracy was perfect. I then slotted 4 DEX + 5 rings and my accuracy dramatically dropped, but my eva rate and my crit rate seemed a lot higher than normal.
In my honest opinion. DEX is sh*t when comparing it to actual accuracy. DEX is mainly used for CRIT RATE and EVA RATE. SE states that DEX affects CRIT and EVA as well as accuracy. If you noticed, there is no piece of gear out there that offers crit rate and only one piece of gear that offers eva, which are earrings, and nobody wears earrings. Accuracy are on weapons arrows rings, and apparently DEX but my guess is that it is a very small amount. Perhaps 10 DEX equating to 2 ACC
I focused my ranger on always keeping my STR at soft cap every lvl (currently at 118) as a lvl 32ARC while keeping my DEX stat allotted to 100.
I also use and crafted myself thousands of Obsidian Arrows which have very good accuracy bonuses.
Edited, Dec 4th 2010 5:51pm by gibsont8
Edited, Dec 4th 2010 5:53pm by gibsont8
When I solo I use x2 DEX +5 and x2 STR + 5
When I group I use x2 STR +5 and x2 ACC +4
I slotted 4 silver rings and tested it out on a yellow goat. My accuracy was perfect. I then slotted 4 DEX + 5 rings and my accuracy dramatically dropped, but my eva rate and my crit rate seemed a lot higher than normal.
In my honest opinion. DEX is sh*t when comparing it to actual accuracy. DEX is mainly used for CRIT RATE and EVA RATE. SE states that DEX affects CRIT and EVA as well as accuracy. If you noticed, there is no piece of gear out there that offers crit rate and only one piece of gear that offers eva, which are earrings, and nobody wears earrings. Accuracy are on weapons arrows rings, and apparently DEX but my guess is that it is a very small amount. Perhaps 10 DEX equating to 2 ACC
I focused my ranger on always keeping my STR at soft cap every lvl (currently at 118) as a lvl 32ARC while keeping my DEX stat allotted to 100.
I also use and crafted myself thousands of Obsidian Arrows which have very good accuracy bonuses.
Edited, Dec 4th 2010 5:51pm by gibsont8
Edited, Dec 4th 2010 5:53pm by gibsont8
I really wonder how much arrow stats come into play. Our bow alone already gives more acc than other weapons. The arrow says 26 attack and 132 accuracy. If we literately add them, that'd be insane accuracy, I'd have 147+132=279 without accuracy rings. Which leads me to think, it's possibly averaged between the bow and arrow? 279/2 = 139.5 accuracy would be more comparable with the other weapons.
My weapons, I have to compare which are similar rank,
R23 Brass Knuckles, 84 att, 131 acc
R26 Iron Spear, 109 att, 134 acc
R24 Ironclad Cavalry Bow, 81 att, 147 acc
R23 Iron Arrow, 26 att, 132 acc
totals = 107 att, 279 acc / 139.5 avg acc
R1 Warped Arrow, 12 att, 88 acc
totals = 93 att, 235 acc / 117.5 avg acc
My weapons, I have to compare which are similar rank,
R23 Brass Knuckles, 84 att, 131 acc
R26 Iron Spear, 109 att, 134 acc
R24 Ironclad Cavalry Bow, 81 att, 147 acc
R23 Iron Arrow, 26 att, 132 acc
totals = 107 att, 279 acc / 139.5 avg acc
R1 Warped Arrow, 12 att, 88 acc
totals = 93 att, 235 acc / 117.5 avg acc
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