My quest for a HarpoonFollow

I'm making progress on a Harpoon. I have alot of the ingredients but just need to level my Goldsmithing and Armorer, maybe Blacksmith. I made a Maple Spear shaft after making Linseed Oil from Flax dropped off Glowflies. I made a Bone Harpoon Butt easily. Got a few Soiled Femurs, and plenty of copper and tin for the clasp.

I think you can use Animal Glue instead of Fish Glue so that makes the head simpler. If not, the wide world of fishing await me I guess! However, I'm not sure what Rank Goldsmith I'll need to make the head. Probably 10... I'm 5 atm.

Also I can't find a Bronze Square and I'll need Armorer 8+ to make it >.< Plus Blacksmith ??? to make the clasp.

I spent an hour looking through the Market Wards for anything that would help me (or even a Harpoon!) but came up completely empty. Only base ingredients there.

I'm Lancer 13 already, finishing this seems sorta pointless now, but I can probably sell a bundle of them if I get this all together!

I welcome any tips!! I'm doing this in Gridania.

Wow, sounds like I have a lot to look forward too.... I haven't even done anything other than lvl my lancer atm, but it seems like a lot of us are gonna be gimp for a loooong time till enough stuff gets made and/or we find shops that just sell the stuff.

I feel like I have no idea what I'm getting into, trying to do this >.<

But on the bright side, I can't really level up Lancer any further without a new weapon, so I have plenty of time to level my crafting...

Thanks for the input!

I guess maybe its because I live in Gridania but I can't find any Harpoons or much of anything in bazaars. I look like crazy.... 40k is nothing I would have no problem spending that.

Also, idk about crafting. This game is so heavily dependent on crafting - SE made them equal to actual 'jobs' from FFXI. They are a totally new thing with abilities, xp, and actual Rank. I think it is going to be desirable to have as many as possible leveled. The fact that most recipes call for such varied ingredients seem to point to a heavy emphasis in the crafting system. I wouldn't be surprised it this somehow ends up carrying over into other parts of the game.

It really is just incredible how much crafting is a part of FFXIV. Reminds me of Atleir Iris.

Edited, Sep 27th 2010 7:29pm by rikkuotaku

GJ! How did you get the fish glue? Find it or make it? Let me know what Rank GS you end up needing for the head.

I got GS to 9 last night too and Alchemy to 8, Carpenter is almost to 12.

Armorer is at 0 however, and if I want Bronze Squares I'm gonna have to level that to at least 6-7.

In open beta i found bronze squares at the Limsa blacksmith guild. Not sure if that stayed into retail though.

Since it looks like carpenters are responsible for all the spears/javelins for our lancers I figure that's a class I should level a little. I've also been working blacksmith so that I can perform my own repairs. Then I'll have to buy the alchemist/botanist/goldsmith/armorer items needed at the various levels and i think I can pull it off. It seems easier to try and just be responsible for one or two of the crafting classes rather than trying to do them all with the time I have to put into the game.

- Shards (All set)
- Animal Glue - Buy
- Bone Harpoon Head - Buy
- Maple Spear Shaft - Make (Need to Buy Maple Log and Linseed Oil)
- Bronze Spear Clasp - Make (Need to Buy Bronze Square - Or pay an armorer to make me one from my nuggets)
- Bone Harpoon Butt - Buy (But looks pretty easy to make if I needed to)

We'll see how this goes. My lancer is Lvl 9. Plan is to level to 10, and then work on assembling a harpoon before continuing with the story.

Edited, Sep 28th 2010 2:35pm by NayliaMR

Uggh...I guess the backup plan can always be a Bronze Spear but its not as big of an improvement.

Just found a Retainer selling 10 harpoons for 30k each on Cornelia.

I about cried I was so happy.

After failing at making the bone harpoon head 3 times, I found one on a random retainer for 27k.

LOL

I finally found a retainer selling Harpoons for 200,000 GIL XD

As if. I have that much np, but I'm not giving it to that joker.

I am in Kushaun server and I made a +1 ill sell or if you want send me /tell in game when im on or hit me up here and i have crafters that created all the items and we made the Spear.

It seems like.. when I look for a recipe for a weapon I notice that a lot of them requires "fish glue". I've checked out the recipe list and it said it requires rank 11 alchemy (or so). How do you guys come about this anyways? Purchase them off vendors or know someone that could synth it?

Bronze spear is harder to make. But better to get it if you can. it upgrades into brass spear (level 16) VERY easy. Just need 2 brass nuggets, and brass rivets, which are made from 2 brass nuggets.

Dunno what server you're on, but, on mysidia I've seen fish glue as cheap as 5k, as expensive as 20k. On Saronia, no cheaper than 20k. Harpoons go for over 100k there. So ridiculous.

Finally saw them for 70k on Bodhum in the Gridania market wards, but definitely not worth it considering I've spent the last week building my crafts up to get it myself.

I am rank 13 GLD which I think is enough for the Head.

I'm rank 10 ALC which should be enough for Fish Oil, which I have the mats sitting in my inventory. I tried one last night and didn't succeed though. I have Flax for the Linseed Oil as well but I don't know what level that is either.

I only have CAR at 8 which probably isn't enough for the Shaft or weapon itself though.

I will let you know what develops.

Just made my Harpoon last night! I am so excited because I made it entirely 100% myself, using like the five different crafts.

Final ranks I made everything at:

Fish Glue - Alchemist 13. First attempt failed and second one made 12x. I probably should sell the rest but I think I'll use them to mass produce Harpoons. Was a difficult synth at 13, almost failed the second one.

Linseed Oil - Alchemist 11 I think. Wasn't too difficult and you make 12x so that was nice.

Bone Harpoon Head - Goldsmith 13, had no problem at all.

Maple Spear Shaft - Carpentry 10, no problem I made three in a row.

Bronze Spear Clasp - Blacksmith 8, no problems. I bought the Bronze Squares from the merchant for like 500g apiece so I didn't use Armorer to make it.

Bone Harpoon Butt - I'm pretty sure this is a Goldsmith 1 synth, had no problem. Cranked out 12 at about lvl 8, just to get some skill points.

Harpoon itself - Had no problem at Carpentry 11. In-fact, I finished at around 40 durability with 75ish quality (I was using Bolds). I touched it up twice and then was too afraid to touch it up again and just wanted one.

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Needless to say since I did the hardest part (Fish Glue) and still have enough Dark Bass to synth two more stacks, I probably should just pound out Harpoons and sell them for ridiculous prices before the market on my server is cornered.



Edited, Oct 3rd 2010 9:14am by NashLatkje

I have Goldsmith and Blacksmith both up to 10, and Carpenter at 8. I was able to make all of the pieces myself, except for the head. If you can find a Goldsmith at 13 or higher, and can buy all the mats, most will make for free, or for tip. You can also go to the Alchemist Guild and see if anyone in there has Animal or Fish glue on them. I found a few and bought them up the moment I saw them on a bazaar for 2k and 3k each respectively.

In the end, Harpoon cost me about 15k to make after buying some pieces from vendors. Good luck!

NP. The easiest way in my opinion to get Fish Glue is to use the receipe:

1x Sea Cucumber
3x Dark Bass
1x Muddy Water

We all know where to get Muddy Water from.

Sea Cucumber can be fished out of the shores at the city of Aleport south of Camp Skull Valley in La Noscea. It isn't a rare catch so I think I successfully fished up 3 around rank 8.

Dark Bass is what's hard. You can only catch Dark Bass out of lvl 2+ schools of fish, and you only get 5 successful 'hooks' per school of fish. In my experience, around Camp Drybone in Thanalan is the best place. The little pond on the map north of Camp Drybone has a lvl 2 school there. Once it dries up you can go southwest of Drybone in the desert at a cave in the rocks. You can use Gulleye II to find the spots. The problem is they are a rare catch (you can tell a rare catch when you do a different animation when you reel it in) from the school and very difficult. I was using Moth Pupa and just sticking to the center of the pond the whole time. At Fishing 10 I was catching them very very slowly. I was losing a lot of them. I am lvl 14 Fishing now and it only has slightly got a little better. It's going to take a lot of time to fish up the Dark Bass but it's worth it because you make 12 Fish Glue per every three Dark Bass.

Good luck.

After I made my first Harpoon, I had enough mats (since the Fish Glue synth gives you 12x) to go for more. I made 9 more Harpoons including two Harpoon +1. I have already sold four for 75k so I'm trying to take advantage of that price before it eventually comes down, but on Bodhum there is barely anyone selling them.

Ah, Manosuke, you're killing me, but I might just have to take you up on your offer... haha
I'm at the point where I desperately need some new equipment, but I'm just gonna rely on rank 20 leves for armor pieces. The weapon, however, is worth dumping my wallet for :P
Where/when can I meet up with you?

Edited, Oct 5th 2010 6:10am by ArkWeldwin

I came accross one for sale today on Besaid for 58k. Costed me close to all my gil but it was so worth it :D

I was originally planning on crafting myself a Harpoon, but it's a slow going process for the little I play, and I've been focused a lot more on fighting than crafting, so for now buying a Harpoon doesn't seem too bad. I know once I start my rank 20 leves, I'll be getting a lot more money than I have no.

Manosuke, I forgot to ask, but is a Harpoon +1 better than a normal Harpoon stat-wise? My understanding is that it's more a representation of the materials that were used to make it, which make the crafting process easier, but resulting in the same weapon. Seems odd, but that's what I gathered from the October 1st "Ask the Devs!" thing. In that case, since you were selling Harpoons for 30k earlier, is the Harpoon +1 really worth an extra 20k? (Unless you're inflating because of supply/demand. Really, unless I find something cheaper in the amount of time it takes me to find you in game, I'll end up buying it from you either way. This is more of a "Want to know for future reference" thing).
Thanks!

Got a brass spear today! =)

Sold my Harpoon for 65k on Saronia

Okay, I just wanted to verify. Thanks again for info, and the harpoon!

Yeah I wish I could get a Brass Spear but I don't know a level 21 Armorsmith or a lvl 25 Goldsmith. I am working to get up to Goldsmith and hopefully by that time my buddy will have Armorsmith that high.

I did end up selling 8 Harpoons for 70k each, including a +1 for 125k. I put 9 more back on the retainer today for 80k apiece, along with another +1. We'll see if they will sell at that price but everyone's been scooping them up so far. I also put a spare stack of Fish Glue up @ 10k for 1x and already sold two. I figure it's way more profit to turn the Fish Glue into Harpoons then just sell the Fish Glue by itself.

I know these prices are ridiculous but they are selling. I also sold a Blacklip Oyster +1 for 10k because that is what is needed to make Bone Hora.

Already cracked 1 million gil and going to see if these Harpoons sell to get on my way to make a second million.

I finally started mass producing Harpoons yesterday. They are a little more plentiful on my server but sell briskly at 50k each. I can easily find fish glue for 5k or less so it makes it a little more palatable. The annoying part is all the wind shards you need!!! something like 18 or more for each Harpoon >.> You run out pretty quick.

I'm probably sold out by now, should go make some more XD