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#1 Aug 04 2010 at 10:55 PM Rating: Default
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Anyone know what weapon ranges are available so far i see 2h axes 1h swords bows and etc... any crossbows or bad ass scythes no farmer scythes because the vids on youtube there's one thats a cut scene and i notice a lot of weapons plus there's a 2h sword at the edge of a table and a scythe on a wall ... are these just teaser scenes or actual in game weapons that are available. Marauder to me looks like the beginning of a dark knight or something similar just want to know what the level cap will be.
#2 Aug 04 2010 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Are you asking what weapon there will be in the game in genreal or what weapon can a Marauder use?

The way FFXIV works is your job changes automatically as you change your weapons. From my understanding, aside from farming tools, there are no battle oriented scythes right now. If your looking to be able to rock a 2 Hand Sword or Giant Scythe as a Marauder, then the answer is no you can't not. At least from how I understand it right now. I could always be wrong though.


Also, no one can answer a level cap question about any aspect of a game that isn't out yet. Even beta testers are playing a game "subject to change." Just throwing that out there...
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#3 Aug 04 2010 at 11:57 PM Rating: Decent
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You got to stop thinking of it as having classes. It's more or less just you gaining abilities from the weapons. We Marauders are Axemen. The Gladiators are the Swordsmen.
#4 Aug 15 2010 at 12:22 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm thinking they will make 2h Sword their own class later. I foresee it will be called something like "Crusader". Most likely released around the time they make the Musketeer class :D GUNS! GUNS EVERYWHERE! But adventurers aren't allowed to use them yet...

Really though, I'd rather see Marauders wielding huge hammers, instead of 2h swords. Or double axes.
#5 Aug 28 2010 at 10:04 AM Rating: Decent
I finally found someone who agrees with me on the weapon choices! The Marauder class looks great sure, but I have always been a huge fan of great swords (2h swords). And the creation of the scythe for ffxi was a small piece of Heaven for me! So I would love to see them put in the 2h swords and call its users anything they want (reavers, berserkers etc), so long as the weapon is there. They don't have to be just like dark knights even though they are incredibly fun!
#6 Aug 28 2010 at 10:14 PM Rating: Default
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RayneZ wrote:
I'm thinking they will make 2h Sword their own class later. I foresee it will be called something like "Crusader". Most likely released around the time they make the Musketeer class :D GUNS! GUNS EVERYWHERE! But adventurers aren't allowed to use them yet...


I think so too. Quite honestly i wouldn't be surprised if there are "surprise" classes at launch that aren't on beta, due to the fact they left ALOT of weapon types out. I read somewhere some dude read the code of the 14 or something and he said the code has the class "Mystic" which iirc is a magic knight that puts spells on the blade to pwn, maybe that's 2h sword class? Sounds iffy on the source, but the thing i read also called out goldsmithing, tailoring, and something else long before it was announced. Then again that could have been a ms.cleo "call me now for your free readin" educated guess. But we can only speculate.

But back to topic, im positive 2h swords will be in the game soon enough. Thats a staple to mmorpg.
#7 Aug 29 2010 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Scythe is already in-game, but is associated with the DoL class Botanist. It is used for harvesting... although to be fair, there was harvesting in ffxi and still an actual job that used Scythe as a weapon, so I wouldn't count it out yet!
#8 Sep 15 2010 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Gladiators already have daggers, so I don't see why it can't be a possibility for Marauders to have Great Swords
#9 Sep 16 2010 at 9:04 AM Rating: Good
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Gladiators already have daggers, so I don't see why it can't be a possibility for Marauders to have Great Swords

Because daggers are still classified in the game as swords. A great sword and an axe are two completely different weapons.
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#10 Oct 04 2010 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm just hoping we get giant hammers.
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#11 Oct 04 2010 at 10:22 AM Rating: Decent
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2h Hammers/Maces would undoubtedly be given to a new class, most likely a Paladin archetype. The only other weapon I can potentially see Marauders getting is something like a Halberd.
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#12 Oct 04 2010 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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only similarity between a great axe and great sword is the fact both are held with 2h. i doubt we will get 2h swords since that is more basic towards a knight. So i agree with the fact we will probably be more strict set to axes. the other weapon we might see available is maybe a pistol since a marauder is basically a pirate. but who knows. maybe musketeer will be its own class in the future.
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why does SE have to make it so impossible to damage deal with a sword. Strait up sword. yes there was a samurai, but thats ffxi, and one very specific class and playstyle. not counting great katana, swords were pretty lame, greatswords too. There was no class specific to greatsword, every job got a natural advantage in a weapon other than greatsword, paladin and bluemage were the only 2 classes that uses 1 handed sword really and paladins are tanks and always mashed potatoes compared to a job like pup or ranger in terms of damage dealing when they try, bluemage relies on spells for dd not the sword; the sword is for TP gain and starting skillchains, but yes it was its "weapon". Dancers using joyuses? wow, they r healers, maybe w/ saber dance? lol no... dance more, while i outparse u every time on like anything but white mage. They use daggers in the mainhand, they just offhand a sword for tp gain. warriors using it? lul. It is still stupid.
There were a few ways to make it vaible, organics, some trail weapons maybe, with some skill+ gear and merits, but its was still always the underdog compared to the natural benefits of every other thing in the game. Like a dark knight or warrior using a great sword... i saw it, but yea, use a sythe, thats why its there, and war w/o a Great axe or axe? usually horrible unless its a god player, which are very rare now, infact, with the new abyessa time constraints stressing out half of the ffxi crowd and a declining economy, its no wonder that is the case.
So i am not surprised they made the one thing that attacted me to ffxiv another underdog. It even says in the description that some gladiators go for an empty offhand, focusing on their sword arm. So i thought, nice, here is a melee class that uses sword, and i dont have to use a sheild if i dont want to. But guess what, theres a main gladiator ability that uses a sheild "phalanx" and there is no help to not using a sheild. Even when not using a sheild, the word is that gladiators are an underdog in the damage dealing department, fighting the basic defensive traits of their class. They dont get to use 2 handed swords, in fact there aren't even 2 handed or "hand-and-a-half" swords in the game at all, which are pretty much the most evolved and used weapons of human history up to the modern firearm. It's false advertising.
I want a class where i can use a 1 handed or 2 handed sword and be a good damage dealer, without having to tank something unless i get hate, or use a sheild. I am surprised more people dont want something like that. It always has to be paired with a sheild, which makes no sense to me. Why cant lancer use a sheild? Take a look at the spartan society, using "phalanx", all lancers using sheilds, and have short swords? Yes we break down classes into games to make the different decisions about weapon choices usually, but its never sword in the lead. Always underdog in Final fantasy. At least let gladiators off hand daggers. Or bring out the fencer, then ill shut up. They are too focused on making their game run and making an npc load in less than 5 minutes at the moment though.
Why cant they just make the option to make my character right or left handed? MMO's (wow and aion included) are so in love with making me mainhand a dagger while i am forced to offhand a sword, instead main hand sword, offhand dagger (it outparses w/ dagger in many MMo classes, or u must dual weild 2 swords, or sword is a "faster, less damaging weapon" but not giving it a bonus over 2 handed swords). If it could just be left handed, it would fix it. Yes, i care about how it looks. Thats half the reason i play these games. It's stupid to limit my options for years. What idiot would have ran into battle with the heavier weapon in his left hand and a dagger or tiny axe in his right if he is right handed? This is why throughout history they have smaller dirk or dagger like weapons in their offhands... because they must focus on weilding the sword, which has superior reach hitting power and tactical slashing and peircing fighting methods. But good god Se, NEVER make this the case, even tho its the obvious mainstream.
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