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#1 Jun 25 2011 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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So I got bored with filling boxes with diamonds on conventional SMP servers. I thought I'd try my hand at a "PvP" server.

I am addicted to Minecraft all over again. There's something about the looming threat of other players that makes the game so much more interesting. The challenge of building up a secure base that other players cannot break into is actually a lot of fun. You can claim land with your faction (like a guild) and the more people you recruit, the more land you can cover, until inevitably you come into conflict with another faction and make war with them.

Blocks cannot be broken or placed on land you've claimed (with certain exceptions), however, treasure boxes that are not protected can still be accessed. Killing other players on the server reduces their "power" over the land, and if they kill you and your guildies enough, your land will begin to go unclaimed.

The server I joined is called EvoCraft. It utilizes the MCMMO mod that allows the creation of subtle character classes who can use magic and abilities, and a leveling system that gives perks for skilling up.

Upon logging in you can choose to either create or join a faction. There are few larger, more prominent factions with impenetrable fortresses of doom-- the rest are mostly people popping in and out of the server attempting to establish themselves and falling prey to "sharks" who are trying to secure more land and treasure. I am part of an underdog faction of sorts-- one just barely on the radar, called "Zodiac."

The other day our castle was sieged and completely wiped out by the powerful bully faction, "Boogeymen." My wife and step-daughter were outside the gates picking flowers when they came-- killing them both. I ran outside to protect them and they killed me, and Snitch, the faction leader, causing us to lose enough power through our deaths for them to break through our walls and loot our chests. We since abandoned that castle and have constructed a new, more secure base further away from the spawn area.

There is a feeling of danger and mortality that isn't present in regular Minecraft gameplay here. You really have to take everything into consideration. You can't just invite random people into your faction and into your base, but people do every day anyway, then cry because all their stuff is gone. The moment you log out, there will be people coming across your base and looking for weak points for which they can enter. It is really... really @#%^ing hard, but that is the best part.

Edited, Jun 26th 2011 5:23am by Kuwoobie
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#2 Jun 27 2011 at 10:26 AM Rating: Good
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I honestly wouldn't call that hard. Difficult yes, but not hard. I say that due to things like this.

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The moment you log out, there will be people coming across your base and looking for weak points for which they can enter.


In that example the game hasn't changed. The only thing that changed is the human factor. I said it once and I will say it again, PvP brings out the best of us sometimes but most of the time it encourages everyone to be a ****. It seems that the only people that enjoy those kind of servers are masochists.

That being said I find how the servers are set up really interesting. It is nice to see the potential that this game has. Hopefully Notch will work on things like this into his final game.
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#3 Jun 27 2011 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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Every time our base is successfully raided, sometimes when we're all online and in the base even, we come up with new ways to improve security.

I have to say it's incredibly satisfying watching intruders fall into traps I set up, or nailing them with arrows and fireballs from higher grounds and watching them explode into a flower of diamond equipment and weapons to be collected and used against them.

Today is actually the first day this week I've logged in to find my base fully intact thanks to all the work I did yesterday fortifying the walls and covering them with curtains of water. I didn't realize before that people could construct "TNT cannons" to destroy hard surfaces that are claimed from a distance. Mages can also use fireballs to destroy weaker materials such as dirt and wood that are protected by claims. Beastmasters can spawn creepers that can also breach security. The only sure way to keep something safe is obsidian, which I use to secure my treasure chests and have begun to line the inner walls with.
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#4 Jun 30 2011 at 4:05 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think this sounds pretty awesome, and I'm looking forward to seeing more dramatic mods like this once they release the source for modders. It's a lot like an idea I was discussing with a friend of mine. The difference in our discussion though was that we were working on the assumption that you would be able to have some sort of safe stash area where your stuff would be protected. Maybe have a shared stash that's saved on the server instead of in an actual chest, and then not drop items that you don't have equipped (armor and things on your hotbar would drop). We also were going on the idea that you would have particular times when everyone was safe or at risk, and that your location wouldn't change. The goal would probably be more like a capture the flag type deal. Though after reading your post I'd be much more interested in claiming and establishing territory.

Edited, Jun 30th 2011 5:17pm by JerekDain
#5 Jul 01 2011 at 2:14 AM Rating: Good
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The server became really boring after finding all the hidden spells and building base nobody could get into. That and the only guy I met on there who was halfway decent got banned because he didn't know how to x-ray without being detected.

Like most Minecraft servers, it was populated with mindless drooling ******* degenerates. It's extremely rare finding anyone who isn't, and when they get banned and you're left alone in a cesspool of filth it just isn't fun anymore.
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#6 Jul 02 2011 at 1:49 AM Rating: Good
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Thus I loathe anything to do with PvP with random strangers. Plus I have a 3G connection for my laptop and it's never good to try thast sort of playstyle with a limp connection.
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#7 Jul 07 2011 at 3:44 PM Rating: Excellent
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Kuwoobie wrote:
it was populated with mindless drooling ******* degenerates. It's extremely rare finding anyone who isn't, and when they get banned and you're left alone in a cesspool of filth it just isn't fun anymore.

Because of this I think it would be interesting to have a mod where it's more directly competitive, like between two people or two teams. For that to work it would have to be limited to a specific area. Probably via adminium walls to keep everyone in - maybe with viewing areas for spectators?
#8 Jul 07 2011 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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JerekDain wrote:
Kuwoobie wrote:
it was populated with mindless drooling ******* degenerates. It's extremely rare finding anyone who isn't, and when they get banned and you're left alone in a cesspool of filth it just isn't fun anymore.

Because of this I think it would be interesting to have a mod where it's more directly competitive, like between two people or two teams. For that to work it would have to be limited to a specific area. Probably via adminium walls to keep everyone in - maybe with viewing areas for spectators?


That would certainly be nice. I've looked over so many PvP servers, and sadly the first one I tried was the best, despite it failing so horribly.

I'd love to see a large-scale server run by professional adults.
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#9 Aug 20 2011 at 12:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I went on it, it seems they reset the server? I was completely lost and apparently my minecraft hates that server as it closes down randomly for me.
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