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#1 Jul 29 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay, so I've been reading a lot of the posts on here and I'm still not decided. I would like to here from other lvl 50 tanks about what builds you're using. From about lvl 30 on I was using a build with 14 reaver, 14 warlord, and then dropping the rest of the points in the paladin tree.(can't get it up just yet but I'll try to post my actual build soon).
One problem I've had consistently is losing aggro on large mobs. With groups of about 5 or less I never have a problem holding aggro. However, whenever I am trying to tank groups any bigger than that at all, especially the groups of little mobs like spiders or those spirit things in RD, I always lose one or two then have to use Sergeant's Order, Shield Throw, or Shield Charge to pull it back.
Now, at 50, I tried one T1 IT and the problem only became exacerbated. I lost aggro on every pull. Talking with my roommate we came to the conclusion that the Reaver Plague Bringer> Soul Sickness> Necrotic wounds simply was not enough to hold aggro and that the Paladin is more a Single Target / Party buff tank. When Reaver is only doing 30-40 damage a tick and my DPS is doing 900-2000 damage a tick my reaver skills don't mean sh*t.
The only positive I can find with my build is that the Pally SHOULD generate tons of threat, but that doesn't seem true now in the t1 scene.

SO... what is the best way to hold large mob aggro? Is my build sufficient and I just have to be super intensive about individually pulling anything I lose? Or is there a better way where I can just have the aggro and tank ahead? I would really appreciate some insight from t2 or Raid ready tanks.
#2 Jul 29 2011 at 5:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay here is the build I am currently using:
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1chEA.E0Rhccis0Mz.xE00o.EzR
I do realize the reaver tree is wrong, I should have the two points from Imbued armor into Sinister intent and Planar attunement, regardless thats the build I'm using. Point for point.
#3 Aug 09 2011 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Here is the build im using. I have great success with this in T2 and holding aggro is not a problem, you rely on warlord calls and reaver dots for aggro. Im still kinda futsing around with it, but the general idea is the same and like i said I can run this in T2 without a hitch.

http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=1cEhA.EVz00z.E0Mu00VszM.xuqzho0z

Macros:

Attack

#show Soul Sickness
suppressmacrofailures
cast Plague Bringer
cast Infestation
cast Soul Sickness
cast Retaliation
cast Disarming Counterblow
cast Aggressive Block
cast Face Slam
cast Blood Fever
cast Necrotic Wounds

Finisher

#show Scales of Justice
suppressmacrofailures
cast Call to Battle
cast Call to Entrench
cast Scales of Justice
cast Spotter's Order

Keep another spotter's order on a seperate key and use it frequently, it adds insane DPS to the group (500dmg every 3 seconds PER PERSON for 20 seconds)

Intimidating + Binding of Atrophy give all enemies you are tanking -10% to spell and physical atk. That atop the ton of damage reduction bonuses you get from all three trees plus +20% armor and you have some serious damage mitigation

Edited, Aug 9th 2011 3:46pm by ElyseDee
#4 Aug 12 2011 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?riftstc=1chgE.EbMh00VczM.xe0mc0V.EMo&mid=131105415329551501&p=1#msg131105415329551501

I challenge anyone to find a better T1/T2 build dungeon crawling build. In terms of damage mitigation and threat generation, I don't think there is any better ratio for running your 5 mans.

Some people will attempt to validate 32pts+ in paladin for the extra threat generating tricks, but the truth is...Spotters Order>All for agro holding. You don't need anything else. Pulling with lights decree is a waste, when you can snap everything to you with your Rage-storm. Just dive in with a shield charge and hit rage-storm. That gets the attention on you ahead of the rest of the group. Then SO and its stuck to you. By the time the rest of the group catches up, its on you for good.
#5 Aug 12 2011 at 5:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh,to the OP.

One other thing...for tanking you will eventually have several builds for certain scenarios and boss fights ect. I have 3 that I move between. The one I previously linked you too I use for the vast majority of my 5 man T1/T2's. I chose that one for you since it seemed like the best fit for your needs. Here is another one that can be found on Ciderhelms site; its an example of a situational build:
http://rift.zam.com/en/stc.html?t=0cghE.EeuqIkiudz.e0o.xo

I really do recommend checking out Ciderhelm.com
Its pretty much your tanking bible.
#6 Aug 17 2011 at 4:18 PM Rating: Good
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ElyseDee wrote:


Macros:

Attack

#show Soul Sickness
suppressmacrofailures
cast Plague Bringer
cast Infestation
cast Soul Sickness
cast Retaliation
cast Disarming Counterblow
cast Aggressive Block
cast Face Slam
cast Blood Fever
cast Necrotic Wounds



I'm pretty sure Necrotic Wounds never fires on this and you'll have to separate it out to get that last DOT on for Infestation. In fact I'd move Blood Fever out as it is melee range and you can fire the two ranged DOTs first.
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