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#1 Jul 02 2014 at 8:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Because M15 spoilers.


The comeback of Convoke makes Theros' Inspired mechanic a lot better. Or rather turns it from something unreliable into something much more reliable, especially now that convoke will be appearing in all colours.

Preeminent Captain, Raise The Alarm and Obelisk Of Urd combined with the ton of good white creatures that are soldiers already (Brimaz and such) Soldier tribal might be a thing, especially with heroic, launch the fleet and the new Ajani. Maybe White with a splash of blue for countermagic and things like Military Intelligence, Ordeal Of Thassa and the new white 2 drop 2/1 that gets +1/+1 if you control an island and has 3U: tap target creature.

The souls are pretty interesting as well, Soul of New Phyrexia giving any deck a possible 6/6 trampler with upsides for 6 and the Soul Of Theros can completely take over a game in no time if you have a couple of creatures.

The New Nissa and Garruk are pretty sweet as well, Nissa's +1 almost makes her cast only 1 mana and the new Garruk could be worthwhile in a green devotion/ramp deck that can afford to pay 7 mana easily and early.
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#2 Jul 02 2014 at 8:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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Goblin Kaboomist seems perfect for amusing flavor text. Smiley: frown
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#3 Jul 02 2014 at 9:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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Gonna make an all-wall deck based around Wall of Mulch Smiley: thumbsup
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#4 Jul 02 2014 at 9:03 AM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't be surprised to see that in BUG control decks after the RtR block rotates out. Drop wall of mulch early, sacrifice it when it's no longer useful.
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#5 Jul 02 2014 at 9:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Or, you know, I was making a casual joke Smiley: laugh
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#6 Jul 02 2014 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Filthy casual.

I got a good chuckle from Raise the Alarm.
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#7 Jul 02 2014 at 9:23 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Or, you know, I was making a casual joke Smiley: laugh
It's a good control card for BUG lists though.
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Filthy casual.

I don't need to waste time looking at spoiler lists if I have someone telling me which decks to buy Smiley: nod

Also, the 2015 version of Duel of the Planeswalkers is available for pre-order for 50% off if that's your bag. You get a free promo card!

Edited, Jul 2nd 2014 11:17am by Jophiel
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#9 Jul 02 2014 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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But how will you know what list to buy when people haven't figured out what the top deck is going to be?




And someone has already figured out a way to get infinite turns with The Chain Veil by combining it with Battlefield Thaumaturge and Ajani, Mentor Of Heroes. Ajani puts 3 counters on the mage, Veil lets him do so a second time and you get a free turn by removing 6 counters, rinse and repeat.
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#10 Jul 02 2014 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'm still gonna be in the draft only scene for a bit.
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But how will you know what list to buy when people haven't figured out what the top deck is going to be?

That's why there's spoilers ahead of the official switch, duh.
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No more Brave the Elements Smiley: frown

Nothing really exciting me out of the cheap whites. Devouring Light, I guess. Return to the Ranks situationally.

Looking at an entire screen of cards makes my eyes glaze over so I don't have any real macro opinions.
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#13 Jul 02 2014 at 6:18 PM Rating: Good
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I saw Magic 2015 was up for pre order on Steam...

I think I have 2012 or 2013 from a previous sale. Never played them. I played a... Duel of the Plainswalkers I think, and it wasn't really that good. Not sure if the yearly MTG games are any good.
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I played the 2014 edition and liked it for what it was. From what I've heard, the 2013 edition was pretty crap although I couldn't tell you why it has that reputation.

Also, all the PC editions these days are "Duel of the Planeswalkers". They have "DotP" edition cards in the sets that aren't part of the legal standard set for physical play. Gives them some more flexibility in making the digital version decks, I suppose.

Edited, Jul 2nd 2014 7:28pm by Jophiel
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#15 Jul 02 2014 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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Oh... I haven't followed the Magic games on the PC. I just remember seeing a Demo pop up on Xbox Live when I first got my 360 called something like "Magic the Gathering: Duels of the Plainswalkers" and thinking it was kind of "meh".

So I don't know what year model it was.
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#16 Jul 02 2014 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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I think that was the first one, from what I've heard they've gotten significantly better each year. Surprising really when you know what a cluster@#%^ MtG: Online is.

Also Joph, by the time Brave rotates out so will Supreme Verdict and all boardwipes will likely be counterable so a move into blue for some permission could work. Kind of depends on what the landscape will look like with Khans.

On a sidenote, Oops-All-Spells is an awesome deck, especially this version because it can morph into Belcher post board.

Edit: The deck is even pretty cheap with only LED's costing ~$100 and Chrome Moxes around $20 you could probably build it for around $600-700. And here's a TappedOut link to the deck so you can goldfish with it, cause that's kind of what it does in real games anyway and messing around with a deck that often has a turn 1 kill is sweet.

Edited, Jul 3rd 2014 11:30am by Aethien
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#17 Jul 03 2014 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think you and I agree on what a "cheap" deck is...
as an aside the Magic ipad game really helped me learn how to play the game somewhat sort of competently

Edited, Jul 3rd 2014 12:39pm by Olorinus
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I can't imagine giving enough of a **** about the game to spend $700 on a deck and consider it a bargain Smiley: laugh
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#19 Jul 03 2014 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
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I can imagine it. That's really the only scenario it'd ever play out, and involves selling marriage to a devil with very luxuriant sideburns.
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#20 Jul 03 2014 at 2:10 PM Rating: Good
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
I don't think you and I agree on what a "cheap" deck is...
as an aside the Magic ipad game really helped me learn how to play the game somewhat sort of competently
Try playing with the deck in the TappedOut link I posted, it's good fun. You can only play without an opponent but the deck really doesn't do anything involving an opponent anyway short of losing to Force Of Will and casting Cabal Therapy to pull those out of hands.

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I can't imagine giving enough of a sh*t about the game to spend $700 on a deck and consider it a bargain Smiley: laugh
It's a legacy deck, anything under ~2.5k is a bargain.
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It's a legacy deck, anything under ~2.5k is a bargain.

Spending a lesser stupid amount of money relative to a greater stupid amount of money isn't actually a "bargain" Smiley: laugh
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#22 Jul 03 2014 at 3:08 PM Rating: Good
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It is if your goal is to play Legacy.


Plus you get to win by putting your entire deck in your graveyard and then drawing a card, possibly the stupidest win con in any deck and you get to do it on turn 1! You don't really get to play that kind of magic outside of Legacy and Vintage and both usually have a pricetag with 4 or more numbers.
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You don't really get to play that kind of magic outside of Legacy and Vintage

If I ever have a burning desire to play that combo, I'll do it with a Sharpie and a stack of Plains and save myself two or three grand. Return on investment and all that.
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#24 Jul 03 2014 at 3:53 PM Rating: Good
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If you do that you might as well click on he TappedOut link, achieves roughly the same.
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#25 Jul 04 2014 at 3:25 AM Rating: Good
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Full M15 spoiler released: WotC to shoot Theros block in the balls with the next core set, reprints Back To Nature 1G, Instant: Destroy all enchantments

Really lame to print that right after a full enchantment focused block especially since there's no dominant enchantment decks anyway, this just shuts down any opportunity for Mono black aggro, Naya Hexproof or G/B or Junk Constellation to become a tier one deck.

Also, the new Raise The Alarm art is pretty awesome.

Edited, Jul 4th 2014 11:34am by Aethien
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Agreed, that seems really lame.

Have to laugh that 18 years ago WotC has pressured into removing a pentagram from the Unholy Strength artwork and now we get Blood Host Smiley: laugh
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