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#1 Mar 08 2014 at 7:42 PM Rating: Good
I just watched the video's on Steam and it made me nerd emogasm pretty hard.

So I have this debate going in my head. Get for my PS3 on the 11th or wait for PC version April 25th...

On one hand I am pretty obsessed with Path of Exile still atm and I'm not sure that will fade in 3 days. On the other hand ITS MOFUGGIN DS2 and DS was one of my favorite games of all time.

I'm guessing someone will make a DS2 fix to make the graphics better than the console versions but it's not really about graphics with DS games anyway.

Can't decide.

Watcha gun do?
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#2 Mar 08 2014 at 7:47 PM Rating: Good
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Which did you play DS on?

I'd say go with that. You're not going to want to go into it with a whole new control scheme, I imagine. Okay, sure, you can use your controller on the PC. But if you enjoyed the experience on the PS3, why not?
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#3 Mar 08 2014 at 8:17 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Okay, sure, you can use your controller on the PC.


Not only can you, I'm pretty sure Steam has a note that it is Highly recommended (apparently keyboard controls for DS sucks).

Edited, Mar 8th 2014 9:17pm by TirithRR
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#4 Mar 08 2014 at 8:25 PM Rating: Good
Played it on PC. With 360 Controller. :)
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#5 Mar 08 2014 at 8:28 PM Rating: Good
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Master Shojindo wrote:
I just watched the video's on Steam and it made me nerd emogasm pretty hard.

So I have this debate going in my head. Get for my PS3 on the 11th or wait for PC version April 25th...

On one hand I am pretty obsessed with Path of Exile still atm and I'm not sure that will fade in 3 days. On the other hand ITS MOFUGGIN DS2 and DS was one of my favorite games of all time.

I'm guessing someone will make a DS2 fix to make the graphics better than the console versions but it's not really about graphics with DS games anyway.

Can't decide.

Watcha gun do?


I'll play test the PC version for you, just send me your key.
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#6 Mar 13 2014 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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Started playing today, and my impression from the Beta stands: Sorceries suck at start. Not starting with a shield sucks even worse.


Things got better when I got a shield, but I still really need to pump int, attunement and get another couple spells.
#7 Mar 13 2014 at 6:18 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm holding out until PC I decided, while I enjoy the new PoE expansion. Looking forward to hearing every ones impressions though!

What spell did the sorc start with? Just a soul arrow?
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#8 Mar 13 2014 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. 30 charges. You eat through them rather quickly.
#9 Mar 15 2014 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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Now that I have a fire sword, 62 charges of soul arrows and some odd number of Greater Soul Arrows, things are much different. I actually feel like I can fight these bastards. Much different than "Good luck with this dagger and this piddly number of spell charges".
#10 Mar 15 2014 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I had it install last night. Maybe I can get an hour in after work tonight.
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#11 Mar 15 2014 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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62 charges of soul arrows


How do you get 62 charges? Buying another soul arrow will give you 60 but where did you get the extra 2?
#12 Mar 15 2014 at 11:13 AM Rating: Good
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How do you get 62 charges? Buying another soul arrow will give you 60 but where did you get the extra 2?

As your attunement gets higher, you get a bonus on your charges. Since I have 2 stacks of soul arrows, I get a bonus one on each at this point.
#13 Mar 15 2014 at 8:29 PM Rating: Good
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Huh. Now that's interesting. It seems catalysts can be upgraded now. With a quick test on some pigs, it seems to have upped the damage of the spells a bit. Will test further when I've got more souls to spend on it.

Edit: Another upgrade. 147 on a Great Soul Arrow went up to 150. Seems like it does indeed work. Now I just need to find a catalyst worth upgrading all the way.

Edited, Mar 15th 2014 8:51pm by Poldaran
#14 Mar 18 2014 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
Nice on the catalyst, I'm sure I will make a caster at some point.I'm thinking warrior type quality build guy first though. My last DS play I really fell in love with dex/str balance weapons like Halberd + 15, winged spear (ok its primary dex), and longsword/claymore.
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#15 Mar 18 2014 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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Should I go back and finish DS1 before this comes out for PC? I never finished it because I stopped pulling out my 360, but I feel like I should make an effort to do so before I start on DS2. Even though the game isn't necessarily played for the plot I think it'd be a worthwhile endeavor... at the very least to get me re-acquainted with the intricacies of the game, even if the controls will be different when I pick up DS2 for PC.
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#16 Mar 18 2014 at 3:19 PM Rating: Excellent
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You need to warm up with Demon's Souls first, then start Dark Souls. If you just want to catch up on the Dark Souls storyline, then here you go.

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#17 Mar 18 2014 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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You need to warm up with Demon's Souls first, then start Dark Souls. If you just want to catch up on the Dark Souls storyline, then here you go.



I doth pronounce that excellent.

I knew all of that lore but had not seen that video. Smiley: lol
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#18 Mar 18 2014 at 9:50 PM Rating: Good
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Managed to get the Twinblade on my melee character, which was my goal weapon. Sadly, while its damage is acceptable(low per hit, but a ton of hits per attack), it does have a problem. Apparently I can burn through almost all of the durability in a single boss fight.

Still, though. I believe that combining it with Dark Weapon or Sunlight Blade could make for some silly good damage output. Or maybe making it into a poison weapon.

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Should I go back and finish DS1 before this comes out for PC? I never finished it because I stopped pulling out my 360, but I feel like I should make an effort to do so before I start on DS2. Even though the game isn't necessarily played for the plot I think it'd be a worthwhile endeavor... at the very least to get me re-acquainted with the intricacies of the game, even if the controls will be different when I pick up DS2 for PC.
The game actually has a surprisingly deep plot. Check out VaatiVidya's channel for a ton of great lore videos. And either way, it'll definitely make it easier to get past the more frustrating aspects by warming up before diving into DS2.
#19 Apr 02 2014 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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Took down* the final boss this morning, as well as the bonus boss in the Dark Chasm and pretty much every optional boss-like foe. All in all, fairly entertaining thus far. Looking forward to NG+. Supposed to be some interesting changes to the world and boss fights when you hit NG+.


*To be fair, I used the cheat code. Step to the left, step to the right, step to the left - FUS RO SOUL GEYSER. Seriously, that spell might be a little OP. Two shotted the Guardian Dragon. Took something like two hits of that and a soul spear to down the final boss. Two soul spears and a soul geyser took out the bonus boss. Went to the trouble of using a bonfire ascetic to get the Moonlight Greatsword and it only saw any real use on trash mobs and King Vendrick, and only because he was too skinny for Soul Geyser to multihit effectively.
#20 Apr 02 2014 at 6:51 PM Rating: Good
Grats! How many hours was that? Also I wonder if they will patch that spell before the PC version.
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#21 Apr 02 2014 at 10:12 PM Rating: Good
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Master Shojindo wrote:
Grats! How many hours was that? Also I wonder if they will patch that spell before the PC version.

I think I was somewhere between 45-55 hours on that character. I"ll check when I load up after breakfast. As for patching it, it's possible. People have apparently been complaining. Edit: 63 hours played, though the last hour was toying around with different weapons after boss killing.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2014 11:46pm by Poldaran
#22 Apr 04 2014 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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So, if you love the 2h Twinblade moveset like I do, but were also disappointed in its durability issues, there is hope. Unbreakable hope that's a pain in the *** to unlock. Not hard, mind you. Just thirty minutes of meleeing a wall annoying. Behold, Santier's Spear.



It doesn't scale*, which makes it a great candidate for Raw. Its moveset is rather interesting.

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1 handed:
first and second light attack - spear
first and second strong attack - halberd
roll light attack - twinblade
backstep/run light attack - curved sword
2 handed:
first and second light attack - twinblade
first strong attack - twinblade
second strong attack - halberd
roll light attack - twinblade
backstep/run light attack - halberd


*I hear that it scales with Mundane, but have fun putting 20 points into everything to make that viable.
#23 Apr 04 2014 at 2:05 PM Rating: Good
Love that swirly 2H spin. Looks fun.
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#24 Apr 05 2014 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Love that swirly 2H spin. Looks fun.

You should see how that move does breaking guards.


Also, from looking up twinblade things, I ran across this.

Edited, Apr 5th 2014 8:35am by Poldaran
#25 Apr 08 2014 at 4:12 PM Rating: Good
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Giant Bomb's quick look at the PC version. Looks pretty good, 60 fps is nice. Some very minor early game spoilers later on in the video, but they'll warn you ahead of time.

If the video doesn't work, reload the page and go to Quality and pick Progressive before hitting play.
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#26 Apr 15 2014 at 1:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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There are some rather awesome videos out already. This one was cool for spectacle:


My roommate tells me that Lobosjr has been talking about doing an "Olympic Torch" run, keeping the torch lit through the entire playthrough, as I understand it. That should also be pretty **** cool. Mostly though, the spammers have pushed a bunch of threads off of page 1 and I wanted to bring this one back.
#27 Apr 15 2014 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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So how frustratingly hard is this game? Preferably compared to F-Zero GX since that's the only brutally hard game I've played.
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#28 Apr 15 2014 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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Master Shojindo wrote:
Grats! How many hours was that? Also I wonder if they will patch that spell before the PC version.


I'm hearing they did. Smiley: tongue

Also, with the PC version coming at the end of next week, I am super excited. Still can't decide what I want to play first though... I'm thinking a standard melee type character but can't decide which one.
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#29 Apr 15 2014 at 5:15 PM Rating: Good
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The one with the bigass sword.

I mean, seriously, what the **** kind of question is that?
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#30 Apr 15 2014 at 6:38 PM Rating: Good
That video is really lulzy. Yeah this is gonna be tough. Becuase now I am hooked on ESO. Splitting between these two is gonna be hard on my free time.

challenge accepted.
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#31 Apr 15 2014 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
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So how frustratingly hard is this game? Preferably compared to F-Zero GX since that's the only brutally hard game I've played.
I haven't found the game frustratingly hard at any point yet. The closest was the time that I think I might have been the only person in an area of a certain level, so I kept getting invaded on every single clear attempt by this one guy.

I mean, I've found it very challenging at points, but nothing that made me want to pull out my hair or anything.
#32 Apr 15 2014 at 11:45 PM Rating: Good
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So not the do everything flawlessly or you're ****** thing like with F-Zero story chapters on very hard then. Cause that got a little crazy at times, I might pick this up for PC sometime then.
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#33 Apr 16 2014 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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If you had to play flawlessly, I'd have given up in frustration long ago. There can be parts that are very unforgiving, but they can often be dealt with by figuring out a completely new strat rather than perfecting the one you're currently using. And, it never hurts to grind out some levels via Jolly Cooperation if you find something a little too difficult.
#34 Apr 16 2014 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
If you have never played the first DS you can pick it up for pretty cheap these days Aeth. It goes on sale frequently.

Difficulty is one of those things that gets interpretive. I did not find DS to be that difficult. Certainly there is a learning curve and some required skill. But once I got the system down it felt very tight (on controller). There were a few bosses that felt really good to beat the first time. (Capra Demon) (Biggie Smalls the hard order) But on subsequent characters I knew what to expect and could beat them much easier.

I'm sure DS2 is similar, looking forward to it.
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#35 Apr 16 2014 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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I think I've only beat 2/9 chapters on very hard and one only on easy. There's one chapter where you need to escape from a long straight tunnel with various closing doors and pillars in 60/50/40 seconds and doors close faster on hard and very hard. The world record is just under 37 seconds. I think I spent a full weekend doing nothing but eat, sleep and try over and over and over to get it. And that's somewhere at the bottom for difficulty.
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#36 Apr 16 2014 at 1:47 PM Rating: Good
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The flipside is that DS1 is a hot mess on the PC even before you factor in Games for Windows.
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#37 Apr 16 2014 at 1:52 PM Rating: Good
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I'd be playing with Xbox controller anyway.
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#38 Apr 16 2014 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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Still, it has like a 30 fps cap or something.
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#39 Apr 16 2014 at 4:35 PM Rating: Good
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Oh. That's stupid.
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I'm sure you can find cracks that make it playable, but the standard version wasn't loved.
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#41 Apr 16 2014 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
Get Dsfix. Problem solved. Looks and plays great. I've got 380 hours on it. I would not recommend M/KB at all but there is a fix for that too.
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#42 Apr 16 2014 at 7:43 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah. DS PC port has issues, and while you shouldn't have to do this, you can get a community member-made mad to fix it. Luckily, you only really have to install the one, DSFix. There are of course many mods that may be worth looking into, but you can still have a good experience with only the one.
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#43 Apr 18 2014 at 1:24 AM Rating: Good
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Seems they learned from their mistakes with DS1
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#44 Apr 18 2014 at 7:05 AM Rating: Excellent
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They honestly should have just hired that dude to help on the DS2 port. Smiley: lol
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#45 Apr 18 2014 at 7:47 AM Rating: Good
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They honestly should have just hired that dude to help on the DS2 port. Smiley: lol


This. He knocked out DSfix in less than 1 hour and it was used by everyone. From software said they had coding issues trying to fix it and that guy was like challenge accepted /fixed.
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#46 Apr 18 2014 at 10:39 AM Rating: Good
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They honestly should have just hired that dude to help on the DS2 port. Smiley: lol


This. He knocked out DSfix in less than 1 hour and it was used by everyone. From software said they had coding issues trying to fix it and that guy was like challenge accepted /fixed.
Wouldn't be the first fanboy on an official DS2 project. EpicNameBro and AGermanSpy were tapped to work on the official guide, which was pretty cool.
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This. He knocked out DSfix in less than 1 hour and it was used by everyone. From software said they had coding issues trying to fix it and that guy was like challenge accepted /fixed.
Wouldn't be the first fanboy on an official DS2 project. EpicNameBro and AGermanSpy were tapped to work on the official guide, which was pretty cool.


Did not know that. Very cool watched a ton of their vids.
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One of them, I think it was ENB, did a vid on the guide after it came out.
#49 Apr 28 2014 at 9:26 PM Rating: Good
Feeling a little guilty. I still have not picked this up. ESO still owning my free time.

Feast or famine for video game releases sometimes. #firstworldproblems

Anyone get the PC version yet?
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#50 Apr 29 2014 at 5:47 AM Rating: Good
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Reviewers I watch have been happy with it, but I haven't bothered since I prefer sitting on the couch to play that game instead of at my computer desk.
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