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#1 Feb 22 2014 at 5:54 PM Rating: Good
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Anyone currently able to test out Steam's Family Sharing?

I haven't, but so far from what I've heard I am not too crazy about it. Apparently you can't play any of your games and share any others at the same time. Only one account has access to the entire library at a time, not just a set amount of games.

I understand their reasoning, and the reality of the system, but it still is disappointing.
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That sounds remarkably pointless. For family at home, you may as well just share your Steam account (i.e. keep it logged in). For family/friends outside the home, no one would want to fight for their own account time.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2014 6:19pm by Jophiel
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#3 Feb 22 2014 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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Well, you wouldn't have to fight, because I think the account owner always has priority. But I agree it's pointless. Cause if you want to play a game, you can't share any of your games. Not sure how its final form will be, since it's Beta and all.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2014 7:33pm by TirithRR
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#4 Feb 22 2014 at 6:34 PM Rating: Good
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That sounds remarkably pointless. For family at home, you may as well just share your Steam account (i.e. keep it logged in). For family/friends outside the home, no one would want to fight for their own account time.

Edited, Feb 22nd 2014 6:19pm by Jophiel


Yup, might as well not have it at all if that's the way they are going to implement it.
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#5 Feb 22 2014 at 7:15 PM Rating: Good
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From what I understood from the original information on it was that two people would not be able to play the same game at the same time through one account. However if someone for example wanted to play Strider while I was playing Ikaruga, the Family Sharing would allow it to happen.
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Shaowstrike the Shady wrote:
From what I understood from the original information on it was that two people would not be able to play the same game at the same time through one account. However if someone for example wanted to play Strider while I was playing Ikaruga, the Family Sharing would allow it to happen.


That's what everyone seems to have assumed. But reading the discussions on the Steam forums, that is not the case.

If you have Darkness II, and Skyrim. And your playing Skyrim, your friend or family member cannot play Darkness II (or any games from your library).

Can I share specific games, or do I have to share my whole library?

Libraries are shared and borrowed in their entirety.

Can two users share a library and both play at the same time?

No, a shared library may only be accessed by one user at a time.


Edited, Feb 22nd 2014 8:20pm by TirithRR
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#7 Feb 23 2014 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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Why even bother with the development process to implement something so pointless?
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#8 Feb 23 2014 at 12:47 PM Rating: Good
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I'd imagine it's so that on paper they can say, "We allow players to share their games, just like Consoles(*). Buy our SteamBox!"
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"Here Bob, have my copy of Dishonored to play. Hurry up with it though because none of my other discs will work until it's back in my house."


Your other discs are too worried if Dishonored is still OK to work properly.
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Jophiel wrote:
"Here Bob, have my copy of Dishonored to play. Hurry up with it though because none of my other discs will work until it's back in my house."


A remarkably apt analogy at how pointless this system is.
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I tried something last year with my son - maybe it was Family Sharing. He set it up on my computer (and my steam account) when he was home. After we both had issues accessing our games - let alone each other's games. Then we had to call each other - no one likes to have to call their mother to access their games.

So we undid everything.

I still share nook books with him. Smiley: smile
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This is why I don't like the whole Digital Downloads thing.
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Eh, I'm fine with paying $5 or less for a game and not sharing it. I just think that an advertised method of "sharing" is stupid when it doesn't really allow it or adds so many strings as to make it unusable.
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Jophiel wrote:
Eh, I'm fine with paying $5 or less for a game and not sharing it. I just think that an advertised method of "sharing" is stupid when it doesn't really allow it or adds so many strings as to make it unusable.


It don't bother me so much with stuff like that. There are plenty of games though that are new releases that costs just the same on Steam as they do in the store when they first come out. That is what I don't like. Why is it I can go to a local store and get the game on a disc with a case for the same price as a digital download? The hardcopy of the game can be played anywhere at anytime and I can resell it when I am done. I know that kills a software companies heart they are obviously losing so much money. Its not like people have been renting, buying, selling used games since the Atari 2600 days or anything.
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The hardcopy of the game can be played anywhere at anytime and I can resell it when I am done.

Do you mean to say "Console Disk" instead of "hardcopy"? Because these days for the PC market, that statement is just no longer true for a large number of games.


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TirithRR wrote:
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The hardcopy of the game can be played anywhere at anytime and I can resell it when I am done.

Do you mean to say "Console Disk" instead of "hardcopy"? Because these days for the PC market, that statement is just no longer true for a large number of games.


Edited, Feb 25th 2014 11:42pm by TirithRR

No, you get two or three installs at most.

As I think back about the game-sharing we tried, it was my Skyrim game my son wanted to play - but it just wasn't workable.
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It seems that Family Sharing is fully released now. And it appears that you actually have to log into a computer, authorize that computer, then log out and have the other accounts log into the authorized computer. You cannot do it completely remotely without giving someone your login details.
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#19 Mar 01 2014 at 4:30 PM Rating: Good
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I suppose we could create a Zam group and gift games to it as needed.
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TirithRR wrote:
It seems that Family Sharing is fully released now. And it appears that you actually have to log into a computer, authorize that computer, then log out and have the other accounts log into the authorized computer. You cannot do it completely remotely without giving someone your login details.

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#21 Mar 04 2014 at 5:09 AM Rating: Default
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Steam Family Library Sharing allows family members and their guests to play one another's games while earning their own Steam achievements and saving their own game progress to the Steam Cloud. It's all enabled by authorizing shared computers and users.
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Jophiel wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
It seems that Family Sharing is fully released now. And it appears that you actually have to log into a computer, authorize that computer, then log out and have the other accounts log into the authorized computer. You cannot do it completely remotely without giving someone your login details.

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I did this with my wife's laptop and our spare laptop. Honestly at least its a start. She doesn't have to kick me off Steam every time she wants to play GTA, because you know I talk to SO many people on Steam, but that's not the point. Before it was hassle all the time now its just a hassle once then after the initial setting its good to go.


I asked on the Steam forums for a beta invite and got a random one sent, messed around with it or a week a few quirks to be sure.

First was the logging in authorizing the account then logging out and etc. its a bit annoying. But I understand it because its ment for people close to you.

Another weird thing is if your playing over the network its just a pure remote desktop session. One of our old laptops with a Geforce 120M cant play stuff at high details but my main PC can. So I used the remote play option. You log into your account on both the PC and Laptop and if your on the same network it won't kick you off from the other machine. You click the game you have installed on your PC on the Laptops Steam and click "Stream" it will stream the game to your laptop over your network.

The thing is it actually plays the game on the main PC but takes inputs from the remote host. So essentially no one can do anything on the main PC because the game is running. Also "authorized" accounts cant stream, only install and play your library. I was having issues because the laptops screen is 1366x768 and my monitor is 1920x1080 so the game was too big for the laptops screen. I messed around but just gave up since I havent had much time to game recently (yay college)

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I share mine with my cousin. When either of us isn't online, the other gets access to more games. It's not one of those must-have things, but if you don't play a lot of Steam games all the time, it's a pretty nifty feature. Especially when you've got a cousin who has like 200 games in his library. Smiley: lol

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Another weird thing is if your playing over the network its just a pure remote desktop session. One of our old laptops with a Geforce 120M cant play stuff at high details but my main PC can. So I used the remote play option. You log into your account on both the PC and Laptop and if your on the same network it won't kick you off from the other machine. You click the game you have installed on your PC on the Laptops Steam and click "Stream" it will stream the game to your laptop over your network.

The thing is it actually plays the game on the main PC but takes inputs from the remote host. So essentially no one can do anything on the main PC because the game is running.


Not entirely sure what you were expecting here. You wanted the main PC to run the game, but only have it show up on your laptop? Something like that?
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Yeah pretty much. I understand the process has to be running on the PC but I figured it would be in a closed window or something. Like the PC doing all the calculations but sending the rendering to the Laptop via the network.

I mean the way Steam does it is a way that has been around for a long time, just built in now.

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Yeah pretty much. I understand the process has to be running on the PC but I figured it would be in a closed window or something. Like the PC doing all the calculations but sending the rendering to the Laptop via the network.

I mean the way Steam does it is a way that has been around for a long time, just built in now.



Could be fun for streaming to my TV occasionally.
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BeanX wrote:
Yeah pretty much. I understand the process has to be running on the PC but I figured it would be in a closed window or something. Like the PC doing all the calculations but sending the rendering to the Laptop via the network.


I have absolutely no idea how this works, but would that even be possible? I mean, how much data would that be per second?
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Yeah pretty much. I understand the process has to be running on the PC but I figured it would be in a closed window or something. Like the PC doing all the calculations but sending the rendering to the Laptop via the network.


I have absolutely no idea how this works, but would that even be possible? I mean, how much data would that be per second?


Similar to the amount on Streaming a Netflix movie, right?
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#28 Mar 08 2014 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Just a warning. It appears that Family Sharing has caused a bug.

If someone is sharing a Library with you that has some games you do not have, and you try to redeem a key for one of those games, it will act like it works, but for some reason not actually give you the game.

So, until Steam updates something, you probably should not try to purchase or redeem games that you currently are being shared from someone else's Library.
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