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#1 Jan 06 2014 at 9:33 AM Rating: Good
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Has anyone been paying attention to this? I feel like it's mostly been flying under the radar aside from a Nintendo Direct segment on it a few weeks back. This is an upcoming 3DS JRPG by Squeenix that is a "spiritual successor to FF: The 4 Heroes of Light". It's actually out in Europe already I think, but it doesn't release here until February. However, there is a demo available on the 3DS eshop which is a separate story from the main game. It teaches you the basics of the game (including the use of Streetpass to get villagers to help build a town, which has in-game benefits) and has 7 of the 24 jobs in the main game available for you to play. I've been playing the demo this weekend and really enjoying it. It's a fun job system similar to some previous FF titles. The cool thing is that you can equip abilities from other jobs that the character has leveled up in addition to their current class abilities, so it allows for a lot of variation. The main combat point is the ability to "Default" or "Brave". These deal with a combat resource, BP, that is used to take actions. Defaulting grants you extra BP (and puts you into a defensive stance for the turn), which can then be used for certain abilities or to "Brave", which lets you take a 2nd action in a turn.

I've been having fun with it, though none of my friends have tried it so the streetpassing feature has been slow going for me (streetpasses give you more villagers which speeds up the building of the town buildings). I'll most likely get it when it comes out, a JRPG on the 3DS is an enticing prospect for me as well.

Anyone else gotten to play the demo (or the full game for you European / Australian folks) / looking forward to the release? I also forgot to mention there's another feature in the game for friends - the ability to send and receive each others' characters as summons in battle. I haven't gotten to test this yet, but it seems like it could be cool. In battle there is an option to send or receive a character. I believe this allows you to summon a friend's character into battle to fight alongside your own. Could be kinda cool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravely_Default

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#2 Jan 06 2014 at 9:58 AM Rating: Good
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I downloaded the demo when I was checking to see if the **** bank thing was available and haven't touched it. I'm highly wary of Square games.
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#3 Jan 06 2014 at 10:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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I don't have a 3DS.

It sounds quasi interesting though. Smiley: popcorn
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#5 Jan 06 2014 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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I've quite enjoyed the demo so far.
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#6 Jan 06 2014 at 4:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I've heard good things about the game, but as I don't own a 3DS, I really haven't been paying much attention to it.
#7 Jan 06 2014 at 5:12 PM Rating: Good
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I've quite enjoyed the demo so far.


In the Demo at least, Ninjas seem pretty powerful (almost Overpowered). Dual Kunai, 4-5 hits per weapon, plus Multitask. A full 4x Brave attack sequence with a Ninja ends up hitting like... 32-80 times in a single turn. Could with a few other skills like the increased attack power with the higher brave, and the attack boosting songs from a mage with subskills from the Performer (Bard) class. My Ninjas would easily outpace Knights or Valkyries (Dragoons).

Knowing when to Brave and when to Default is a huge part of the game. You can go all out with 4x Brave and annihilate your enemy right away, but if you ***** up, you are dead in the water for 4 turns. But if your enemy Braves a few times in a single turn you can boost a couple braves and still be ahead.

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#8 Jan 06 2014 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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There seems to be a niche following with the game. I remember hearing about it more than a year ago when it was first rumored to be coming to the US and there was a lot of "Please please please" going around. I've barely touched the demo, but can see how it's being related to the old school FF games. I'll be picking it up at launch. Although since my 3DS never leaves the house, I'm a bit shy on streetpasses. Apparently Nintendo has setup streetpass hotspots that store people's streetpass info, basically acting as if those people are still there. They seem to be pretty common at places like McDonalds, Home Depot, Starbucks, Resturants, etc... Here's the locator if your 3DS is anti-social like mine. http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/nintendozone
#9 Jan 06 2014 at 5:47 PM Rating: Good
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There seems to be a niche following with the game. I remember hearing about it more than a year ago when it was first rumored to be coming to the US and there was a lot of "Please please please" going around. I've barely touched the demo, but can see how it's being related to the old school FF games. I'll be picking it up at launch. Although since my 3DS never leaves the house, I'm a bit shy on streetpasses. Apparently Nintendo has setup streetpass hotspots that store people's streetpass info, basically acting as if those people are still there. They seem to be pretty common at places like McDonalds, Home Depot, Starbucks, Resturants, etc... Here's the locator if your 3DS is anti-social like mine. http://www.nintendo.com/3ds/nintendozone


It was discussed in the Console Deals thread here:
http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?forum=22&mid=137010061150845376&h=50&p=2#85

You can setup your own streetpass hotspot at home with a little work. Giving yourself a steady stream of streetpasses.

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I have completed the Demo and have all 7 bonuses unlocked. Still haven't 100% mastered all the jobs yet, but right now there is no real benefit for me to do it.

Edited, Jan 6th 2014 6:49pm by TirithRR
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#10 Jan 06 2014 at 6:19 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be grabbing it as a digital download - I'm pretty into having everything on my system these days
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#11 Jan 06 2014 at 8:18 PM Rating: Good
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I can't decide if I want to digital download or physical copy.

As for the demo, I've been taking my time but still having fun. Would love some friends though to test out that feature. Can't figure out how to register them though, as it doesn't seem to be taking from my regular friends list. Smiley: frown
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Until I can attach games to my account, rather than my device, I won't be buying much as a digitial download. Maybe cheap old NES-GBA games, but not anything I'll be paying too much for.
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#13 Jan 07 2014 at 8:42 AM Rating: Good
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I could have answered the question on my own if I'd have just turned on my 3ds and played the game for like ten seconds, but I don't want to so I'll just ask the stupid question anyway: The fights turn-based?

Edited, Jan 7th 2014 9:43am by lolgaxe
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#14 Jan 07 2014 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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I could have answered the question on my own if I'd have just turned on my 3ds and played the game for like ten seconds, but I don't want to so I'll just ask the stupid question anyway: The fights turn-based?

Edited, Jan 7th 2014 9:43am by lolgaxe


Yes, though you input all of your team's orders at once. Because of the Default/Brave system, it can matter when you do what, and enemies also act under the same system. I also don't know how order is determined, so if someone else has figured that out please feel free to chime in.
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Pretty sure stats like agi determine order. My dual Kunai wielding ninjas always go first.
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#16 Jan 07 2014 at 10:23 AM Rating: Good
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Pretty sure stats like agi determine order. My dual Kunai wielding ninjas always go first.


That would make sense. Do characters gain permanent stats based on their class? I started one character as a ninja then moved him to red mage, and even as red mage he continued to always go first.
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Not sure about that. It would take a bit of stat checks and new games to test. Did you keep the same weapon as a red Mage? The Kunai has a huge agi boost.

I hope the main game has an option to auto optimize equipment on job change

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#18 Jan 07 2014 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
Not sure about that. It would take a bit of stat checks and new games to test. Did you keep the same weapon as a red Mage? The Kunai has a huge agi boost.

I hope the main game has an option to auto optimize equipment on job change

Edited, Jan 7th 2014 11:36am by TirithRR


No, I switched to a sword (I think broadsword?) and shield.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Until I can attach games to my account, rather than my device, I won't be buying much as a digitial download. Maybe cheap old NES-GBA games, but not anything I'll be paying too much for.


I think that the new "Nintendo ID" system does that. Now I need to log in whenever I use the store. Also I hooked it up to my club nintendo.

Of course this is Nintendo so they will find a way to take all the digital benefits out of the system.
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#20 Jan 07 2014 at 5:21 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Until I can attach games to my account, rather than my device, I won't be buying much as a digitial download. Maybe cheap old NES-GBA games, but not anything I'll be paying too much for.


I think that the new "Nintendo ID" system does that. Now I need to log in whenever I use the store. Also I hooked it up to my club nintendo.

Of course this is Nintendo so they will find a way to take all the digital benefits out of the system.


As of right now I believe the only thing it does is to allow you to share your wallet across systems.
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I think it also mentioned linking the licenses from the system to your account. Then linking the console to your account. It said you can only have one 3ds linked. But I wonder if it will let you transfer like the wii and wiiu can?
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#22 Jan 07 2014 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, there is a system transfer feature for the 3DS. I had a friend use it just last week to transfer all of his purchases, save data, even streetpasses from his old system to a new one. That being said, I think you're boned if your current system is lost or broken.
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Well you can currently do a system transfer. The trouble is if say, you dropped your device in a vat of hydrochloric acid you can't really do the transfer in the standard way since it requires both systems to be working.

HOWEVER, I know it's technologically possible for them to transfer your licenses to another device (a friend of mine badgered them into letting him move a digital download off his wife's 3DS once he got his own device)

That said, I'm sure it would be a crap shoot/nightmare/headache. My goal is to NOT switch devices or drop my 3DS into a vat of acid. Hopefully that works out.
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#24 Feb 07 2014 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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This comes out today in NA finally! I really enjoyed the demo, so I've been looking forward to this. Anyone else planning on getting it and want to register as friends? I'm interested in trying out the friend summoning thing.
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#25 Feb 07 2014 at 8:22 AM Rating: Good
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Today, huh? Didn't realize we were already there, lol.

I do intend to get it. You have my FC already, right?
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#26 Feb 07 2014 at 9:48 AM Rating: Good
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Yea, I should.
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I thought it wasn't out until March. I haven't completed the demo yet. Any remember how many hours it was?
#28 Feb 07 2014 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Honestly, the demo bonuses aren't all that special. It's really just potions and low-level gear, which you'll be able to purchase easily enough really quickly. Your village progress will transfer over, and that's good enough.
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#29 Feb 07 2014 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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I don't have a 3DS.

It sounds quasi interesting though. Smiley: popcorn

...and if you did, a kid would be playing with it.

Also as one ages and their arms grow shorter handhelds become impractical.
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#30 Feb 08 2014 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
We've all exchanged codes during the pokemon craze right? If not and you need mine let me know. This game is actually more fun right now than ffxiv.
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#31 Feb 08 2014 at 5:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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We've all exchanged codes during the pokemon craze right? If not and you need mine let me know. This game is actually more fun right now than ffxiv.


Psh, get on my level. I'm playing XIV and BD at the same time.

I'm not sure if I have yours?


Btw, just to make this clear (since it wasn't in game, and I looked it up), your stats are entirely dependent on the job you are in (and it's level) and the base stats of the character (and their level). You won't be penalized for leveling up as a Knight and deciding you want to try out magic on that character.

Which is all kinds of awesome, because it means you're fully free to figure out your builds as you play, instead of having to plan your characters.

Stats-wise, Tiz is balanced, Edea has high Str/Vit (great as a Knight or other stroic dps types), Ringabel has high Agi/Dex (So great for ninja stuff and other speed jobs), and Agnes is the best caster.

And, of course, you can do whatever you want, because you have a lot of freedom to customize jobs, and the stat differences shouldn't be huge.

Happy grinding.
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#32 Feb 08 2014 at 10:15 PM Rating: Good
Well here is my code, 0791-2121-2660. The grind is so on after hearing that as well. I just started an all Whm part, with Blm sub.. Things blow up quick.
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#33 Feb 09 2014 at 6:50 AM Rating: Good
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I'm stuck out of town for the rest of the month but my package with Bravely Default arrived the other day. It is sitting in my room waiting for me :/
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#34 Feb 09 2014 at 7:25 AM Rating: Good
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[EDIT] Net friend "day" reset is Tokyo midnight, 10 EST.

Dyadem, pet mage of Jabober wrote:
Well here is my code, 0791-2121-2660. The grind is so on after hearing that as well. I just started an all Whm part, with Blm sub.. Things blow up quick.


Black Magic gets stronger with the more people who have Black Resonance equipped (it's the Black Mage special). So a mana burn of all-blm is SUPER strong. Black Resonance can be set as a support ability by anyone who reaches level 8 in Blm, too, so once you're further in the game, that could make grinding out more caster levels much nicer.

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Has anyone successfully updated their village pop via the update data feature for a second time? I got villagers yesterday, and I thought the tutorial said I could do it again after midnight, but it didn't work last night, and it didn't work this morning. Maybe it's a 24 CD... I wish I could check when it came up.

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Your favorite title is Health and Safety Information. Smiley: lolSmiley: lolSmiley: lol

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Okay, I think Net Friend Invites use Tokyo time to determine midnight (same as FFXIV for NA players - it's a huge PITA...)

I'll report back to see if I can get new ones then. I'll try shortly before/after midnight.

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#35 Feb 10 2014 at 7:21 AM Rating: Good
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Good to know about the reset time, thanks. What I can't figure out is how exactly the friend thing works. Is it searching my 3DS friends list like it says it is? Because I recognize almost none of the names that it's told me are "friends", aside from a couple which I know are just people I've streetpassed.
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There are friends and then there are guests. You aren't currently in my friends list, even though I know we're 3DS friends. But the 9 people I got via updating data are each in my guests list.

I wonder if you have to be online at the same time to register friends? The only one in mine is g0dless, which I know is one of you, but I don't remember who.

Since you mentioned street passing, do I need to enable it, like in other games, or is it default? I got a spotpass from Starbucks this morning, and there were no Bravely Default passes in there (FE:A, Pokemon, and Zelda). Which obviously could be because no one had BD who visited there, but I wanted to confirm anyway.
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#37 Feb 10 2014 at 8:32 AM Rating: Good
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I should probably play through the demo.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
There are friends and then there are guests. You aren't currently in my friends list, even though I know we're 3DS friends. But the 9 people I got via updating data are each in my guests list.

I wonder if you have to be online at the same time to register friends? The only one in mine is g0dless, which I know is one of you, but I don't remember who.

Since you mentioned street passing, do I need to enable it, like in other games, or is it default? I got a spotpass from Starbucks this morning, and there were no Bravely Default passes in there (FE:A, Pokemon, and Zelda). Which obviously could be because no one had BD who visited there, but I wanted to confirm anyway.


I also have g0dless, but couldn't remember who it was. Being online at the same time seems unlikely, since you have to manually update once per day.

As for streetpasses... in other games as part of the tutorial or something it talks about streetpassing and then asks if you want to enable streetpass for that title. I know that my streetpass data from the demo carried over, but I can't remember if I had to activate it in the demo or not. But my assumption is that I did, based on how other games have handled it.
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#39 Feb 10 2014 at 8:54 AM Rating: Good
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The demo is long, and the in-game rewards are relatively pointless (just potions and such).

The one meaningful bonus is that your villager count will carry over, up to 20, and I learned (too late) that there's a small exploit that lets you use the demo to hit that cap without having to rely on streetpassing.

It's not a huge deal, but it'll give you quicker access to some weapons and such. You'll still need to purchase them after you unlock them, though.
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Thanks to the 20 I carried over, I already have about 7 different Norende "shops" at level 6-7... and my characters are only level 6 and I have about 300 gil to my name... I can afford very little that is available to me. So having the 20 is not as huge a boost as you might think Smiley: tongue.
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I've spent way too much time grinding. Smiley: lol I'm obsessed with leveling the jobs. I'm like level 20... and I'm definitely WAY past the level for the content.

I unlocked the merchant job, which has the 1.5x gp drop modifier as its unique skill. And it stacks with itself... So I've had my whole party grinding the job. Smiley: lol I'm up to level 5 - need to get to 8 to get the 1.5 skill for other classes. Part of me really wants to do it, so I can buy whatever I want for the rest of the game. The other part of me knows that would probably be stupid, because if I grind so much now (when the return is actually lower), it'll be just offsetting the game of catch-up.

On the flip side, ALL of that grinding I did while doing other things. Playing FFXIV/FFXIII-2, for instance. Since I just have bravex3, attack x4, and auto-battle set up (with a 100% encounter rate boost), I just run in circles really quickly, auto-battle, and then do it again.
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#42 Feb 10 2014 at 9:53 AM Rating: Good
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Yea, I'm afraid of trivializing the game too much if I do that. I am looking forward to unlocking and leveling up all the jobs though, so who knows... I actually haven't done that much playing. Had too much stuff to do on FFXIV this weekend. I'll definitely be getting into it this week though.
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Yea, I'm afraid of trivializing the game too much if I do that. I am looking forward to unlocking and leveling up all the jobs though, so who knows... I actually haven't done that much playing. Had too much stuff to do on FFXIV this weekend. I'll definitely be getting into it this week though.


Thing is, you can bump up the difficulty if you need to. If I'm getting bored, I'll just do that.

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I can't remember right now, but I THINK you can disable exp and/or job exp independently of each other. Or even if you thought you were getting too strong, you could just disable exp to stay the same level, but still have the challenge created by fighting mobs. You can disable pg drops, too.

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Yea, I'm afraid of trivializing the game too much if I do that. I am looking forward to unlocking and leveling up all the jobs though, so who knows... I actually haven't done that much playing. Had too much stuff to do on FFXIV this weekend. I'll definitely be getting into it this week though.


Thing is, you can bump up the difficulty if you need to. If I'm getting bored, I'll just do that.

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I can't remember right now, but I THINK you can disable exp and/or job exp independently of each other. Or even if you thought you were getting too strong, you could just disable exp to stay the same level, but still have the challenge created by fighting mobs. You can disable pg drops, too.

Edited, Feb 10th 2014 10:55am by idiggory


True, upping the difficulty would help with that. As for disabling exp and/or pg... that's a thing? Really? O_o
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#45 Feb 10 2014 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, the game is quite customizable that way. There's a bunch of stuff under the difficulty tab.

You can disable the destination marker, turn on/off PG, on/off exp, on/off job points, change the difficulty (easy to hard), and raise/lower the encounter rates (even disabling them).

I REALLY should have remembered the exp option earlier, because then I wouldn't be so ridiculously overpowered, lol. Oh well, maybe I'll turn it off now, and just gain job points for the forseeable future.
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#46 Feb 10 2014 at 12:33 PM Rating: Good
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The only one in mine is g0dless, which I know is one of you, but I don't remember who.



Me, that one is me.
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#47 Feb 13 2014 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tried the demo finally, and it's Final Fantasy without the crushing disappointment that comes with naming a game Final Fantasy. No expectations. I might pick up the full version.
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#48 Feb 13 2014 at 9:10 AM Rating: Good
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The combat is fun, the job system looks to be fun.

Dunno if the story will prove to be interesting or not, but it's at least not repelling me yet.

Though the last act of the game is apparently terrible.
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#49 Feb 13 2014 at 10:27 AM Rating: Good
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Haven't heard anything about the later portions of the game, but I'm still having lots of fun. Only have 5 jobs so far though, must get moar!
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Without spoilers, there's a period where you essentially have to do something that sounds incredibly mundane and tiresome and boring (and testimony suggests that it is at least as bad as it sounds) and its super time-consuming and relatively pointless.

But everything up to that is apparently great, and I haven't heard anything to suggest that the period after it is bad.

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Apparently that was either too much of a spoiler for someone, or *gasp* saying anything bad about a game is blasphemy.

The period everyone is hating is one that makes you visit each major dungeon of the game THREE TIMES. Essentially, run around the globe watching cutscenes and doing little else.

Apparently it takes a few hours, even turning encounters off and using auto-battle for required ones. All the reviewers pretty much said they did it while watching TV, because it was just incredibly boring and frustrating (made worse by the fact that the acts leading up to it were so good).


Edited, Feb 14th 2014 8:49am by idiggory
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#51 Feb 16 2014 at 10:07 AM Rating: Good
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I've spent WAY too much time hoping Agnes dies. Ringabel can go too (though he's occasionally nice to have around).

All hail Queen Edea.
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IDrownFish wrote:
Anyways, you all are horrible, @#%^ed up people

lolgaxe wrote:
Never underestimate the healing power of a massive dong.
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