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#1 Sep 20 2013 at 5:34 PM Rating: Good
You know, the usual announcement of an announcement. However, the wait is relatively short this time.

Today Valve posted this page, complete with a countdown to Monday and the following quote:

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Last year, we shipped a software feature called Big Picture, a user-interface tailored for televisions and gamepads.
This year we’ve been working on even more ways to connect the dots for customers who want Steam in the living-room.
Soon, we’ll be adding you to our design process, so that you can help us shape the future of Steam.


There is an image of a controller with the cord leading into the darkness.

This just might be a Steambox announcement. Stay tuned come Monday.
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#2 Sep 20 2013 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
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A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


I have a ton of Steam games I have bought just because they were like 75 to 90% off that I do not play. The biggest thing I find myself saying "If this was on a console id probably love it." I know I can buy a good controller for my PC but I still don't always want to sit in front of a small screen to play a game. If its under $200 I could see myself buying one for sure.
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Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


I have a ton of Steam games I have bought just because they were like 75 to 90% off that I do not play. The biggest thing I find myself saying "If this was on a console id probably love it." I know I can buy a good controller for my PC but I still don't always want to sit in front of a small screen to play a game. If its under $200 I could see myself buying one for sure.


Problem solved.
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fronglo wrote:
Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


Olorinus the Ludicrous wrote:
A steambox would be kind of nice. I mean, not something I'd like to spend a ton of money on, but if it is in the realm of 100-200 I'd totally consider it for the sake of flexibility.


I have a ton of Steam games I have bought just because they were like 75 to 90% off that I do not play. The biggest thing I find myself saying "If this was on a console id probably love it." I know I can buy a good controller for my PC but I still don't always want to sit in front of a small screen to play a game. If its under $200 I could see myself buying one for sure.


Problem solved.


Meh still have to drag a PC into my living room set a keyboard/mouse up with it. Much easier if there was a small box that would just boot straight into my steam games. Plus Id need a wireless gamepad which I don't have. The only gamepad I have has like a 4 foot cable on it.
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#6 Sep 21 2013 at 7:19 PM Rating: Good
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my TV is smaller than my monitor so that isn't much of a factor but the TV is also a lot more moveable. So if I wanted to play some steam games in bed, for example, it would be ace.
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#7 Sep 23 2013 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
SteamOS. So that's a thing.
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#8 Sep 23 2013 at 1:07 PM Rating: Good
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One more step towards hardware.
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SteamOS. So that's a thing.

Seems to be a thing called "Linux" if I'm reading it correctly. Finally something to do with the Linux copies of all those Humble Indie Bundle games, I suppose.
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#10 Sep 23 2013 at 2:36 PM Rating: Good
It sounds promising if it's optimized enough, you could toss it on a budget build rig for the living room. Of course the Linux thing is the real problem... Will developers really bother to make a 4th-5th version of AAA games just for Steam?

Maybe.
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Supposedly (per an article elsewhere) SteamOS will support streaming from your Win7/Win8 system through your SteamOS box. I assume it'd work sort of like Splashtop for mobile devices. Sounds like a bit of hassle to go through but then treating my PC like a game console in the family room has never been a great desire of mine. If someone else wants to do it, at least it affords some option beyond "Play Linux games".

Edited, Sep 23rd 2013 4:56pm by Jophiel
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#12 Sep 25 2013 at 8:49 AM Rating: Good
2 hours until announcement #2. Steambox, calling it now.

Edited, Sep 25th 2013 10:49am by IDrownFish
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#15 Sep 25 2013 at 11:02 AM Rating: Good
**** called it. Steambox, and closed beta.
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Pretty bold guess there to say "Steambox" for Steam's great big announcement following announcing a SteamOS Smiley: laugh

Edited, Sep 25th 2013 12:08pm by Jophiel
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@#%^ing called it.


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#18 Sep 25 2013 at 11:47 AM Rating: Good
Oh I know, the Steambox was the world's worst kept secret. "Calling it" this case was akin to predicting rain when it's overcast and thundering.

That said, this seems interesting. The question is how much of an advantage this machine will give over a traditional desktop. If this is something lightweight, optimized for games, and streamlined to the point of being able to play games almost out of the box (similarly to consoles) then I could see it having a pretty big impact.
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#19 Sep 25 2013 at 1:20 PM Rating: Excellent
Can we make jokes about steamy boxes now?

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#20 Sep 25 2013 at 1:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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I got my Xbone close to your Steambox.
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I'm not totally against the idea, but I'm not sure who the target consumer is.

If it's console-price affordable then its not going to be powerful enough to run games at 1080p 60fps with high settings.

If it's cheaper than console and depends on the streaming from your gaming rig I have to wonder just how much latency there would be (remember Onlive promised unnoticable latency...lmao). If the latency is ultra low, like <5ms round trip, then I can see this scenario having a lot of success.

If it's priced like a tower than can play all current games on max settings (~$800) then it will just be too much money for a lot of people.

It's also possible all of these will be available, but if I'm going to spend any amount of money towards a better PC gaming experience I will be putting that money into my windows OS gaming tower.
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I dunno it would be nice for me regardless. I don't care about max settings cause I have a tiny crappy LCD TV anyway... but I know I am an aberration in that regard. Obviously streaming needs to be optimized for it to be attractive.

Also, this convo makes me wish I was at home playing faster than light.
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#23 Sep 27 2013 at 11:16 AM Rating: Good
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New controller, as suspected.

I think it looks awesome and I'm most excited about that.
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Looks like radio speakers.
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#25 Sep 27 2013 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
It's staring into my soul. Smiley: eek
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So they've taken trackpads (the worst part of the laptop and worthless for gaming), haptic feedback (a **** feedback mechanic meant to account for the lack of tactile response on touchscreens), and a touchscreen (probably the part of the Vita I hate the most for actual gaming), and turned it into some form of super controller.

I'm at a loss. I can't think of an insult that would do this thing justice.
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Looks like radio speakers.


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As a parlor trick they can even play audio waveforms and function as speakers," Valve added.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57605010-93/goodbye-thumbsticks-valve-unveils-steam-controller-with-pc-like-trackpads/

Also, I love the attitude:

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Can I hack this box? Run another OS? Change the hardware? Install my own software? Use it to build a robot?
Sure.



Edited, Sep 27th 2013 2:28pm by Olorinus
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Nothing about that controller looks like a good idea. Try playing a duel stick shooter on a phone or pad and then tell how great it is to use touch controls instead of something less crappy. It also doesn't help that button placement is just awkward. Not to mention that touch screen in the middle is going to **** near useless. When was the last time you looked down at your controller while playing a game? Did it work out particularly well, because I know that when I take my eyes off of the screen, bad things tend to happen.
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When was the last time you looked down at your controller while playing a game? Did it work out particularly well, because I know that when I take my eyes off of the screen, bad things tend to happen.

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In order to avoid forcing players to divide their attention between screens, a critical feature of the Steam Controller comes from its deep integration with Steam. When a player touches the controller screen, its display is overlayed on top of the game they’re playing, allowing the player to leave their attention squarely on the action, where it belongs.


I dunno. I am interested in trying this. I don't think it will be great for every game, but if it means I can play Civ 5 with a controller (or one of the many games out there that should work just fine with a controller but doesn't have the interface set up) - I will buy one even if I don't get a steam box.

In terms of the screen I am more weirded out by the fact you need to click it. My work foisted a blackberry torch on me once... clicky touch screens give me nightmares.



Edited, Sep 27th 2013 2:51pm by Olorinus
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Turin wrote:
Nothing about that controller looks like a good idea. Try playing a duel stick shooter on a phone or pad and then tell how great it is to use touch controls instead of something less crappy.


Depends what exactly your problem is with that. I hate playing games on my phone because there is nothing telling me where my fingers are on the screen. You can tell exactly where your thumbs are the Gabencontroller™ due to the concave design of the touch pads. So im not convinced it will suck in that regard.

The button placement does look awkward I agree.

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