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#202 Jun 27 2013 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I just checked my email, and it seems that I've been chosen for this round of beta testing. It's too bad about the stupid hours though, I'll barely get to play it at all. I hear that there is going to be an open beta next month though, so maybe I'll get a chance to play it a bit then.
#203 Jun 27 2013 at 4:48 PM Rating: Good
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http://gdl.square-enix.com/ffxiv/download/en/FFXIV_2.0_BETA_Roadmap_EN.pdf

Two more Phase 3 tests (This weekend, and I assume next weekend).
A short downtime for them to do their thing.
Phase 4 = Open Beta.

Barring any major issues, Phase 4 characters will remain after game launch.

Edit:
Seems you can download the update now to get ready for tomorrow. (or, at least an update, not sure if another will happen between now and 2am PDT)

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#204 Jun 29 2013 at 6:43 AM Rating: Good
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Oh, hey, I'm in the beta. Interesting.

I was just coming here to ask if anyone had tried the Summoner job yet when I noticed.

Don't know how much I'll be on this weekend. But I hope I'll at least get to experience it.
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#205 Jun 29 2013 at 7:10 AM Rating: Good
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Or maybe not, since this beta key isn't working to actually register.

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WHY MUST THIS PROCESS BE SO CONFUSING?

WHY MUST SQUARE ENIX HAVE 6000 ACCOUNT TYPES?

WHY?

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Oh, of course it's case sensitive. Why wouldn't it be? It's not like it's all in the same case or anything.Smiley: mad

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#206 Jun 29 2013 at 7:26 AM Rating: Good
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They have:

FFXI Playonline account
SE Account (FFXIV and your Playonline account linked)
SE Account Global (store and other stuff)

Worst part about it is the two different SE Accounts are for the same website name, just different portions of it, so I can never truly remember which one I should be using.
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#207 Jun 29 2013 at 7:30 AM Rating: Good
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I've been futzing around on Gladiator. Just hit level 8. I have to admit that I'm having fun with the way the quests are presented. The dialog boxes feel like a classic RPG, and actually make me more likely to read the quest text. I don't know that I'd ever want to level multiple characters, but it's been pretty neat so far.

Controller support is pretty decent. I've been playing on PS3 without a keyboard at all. Of course, this basically eliminates any social aspects since typing with just a controller is painfully slow, but it's been good. My main issue is that they either don't explain or I missed the initial tooltips telling you controller shortcuts. Like, for the map it tells you to open it from the main menu. I accidentally discovered after a couple hours that the square button opens the map. By far the most annoying thing has been a couple quests where you have to /emote at some NPCs. I don't know if there's a shortcut to the emote list, but having to pick it from the menu every time on a controller (since it would take even longer to type it with no keyboard) is a pain. Of course, after finishing that one, I found that you can put the specific emote on your hotbar, so I suppose if I ever come across another one like that, I'll have to do that.

Most of the enemies are straightforward, where you don't have to move out of the way of anything. A couple have some AoE **** that's clearly marked, and you can move out of the way of it. I can forsee issues in the future when there are more movement-dependent enemies, working with the controller. So far, I've been using the D-Pad binds for situational abilities, since they remove my thumb from the movement stick.

Maybe I'll download it on PC for next weekend, and see how I like it with KB/M.
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#208 Jun 29 2013 at 7:40 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I had to just google it and find a support thread with the link. They really need to merge those accounts into one. I get that it's a huge corporation, but it's also 2013.

Meh, anyway. I'm guessing it'll be 3-4 hours until this is downloaded, assuming my net doesn't drop out.

I'll probably work on Arcanist first. I loved Carbuncle in FFXI. Smiley: grin

Some questions:
-Are races/stat distinctions as important in FFXIV as they were in FFXI? I know that gear could bridge the gap, and that for the most part distinctions weren't TOO extreme, but you could definitely feel it when trying to play an Elvaan/Galka Blm or a Tarutaru Mnk. I'm not asking because I intend to min/max or anything. I played a Taru in FFXI. I'm just curious.

-Does the Discipline system still work by equipping weapons? And, if so, what do I need to play as an Arcanist? Is it the Grimoire? Can I start out with one, or is it more of the "onion knight" type start?

**** now I want to play FFT. Moving on.

-Do Dragoons get a wyvern? If I whine enough will they get a wyvern? I want my frickin' wyvern.

-If I understand it correctly, Disciplines are the "general" options, with jobs being the specialized ones. So only disciplines can use the sub system, right (equipping skills or whatever)? No more blm/whm, smn/whm, X/brd, etc.? I can't tell if I'll miss that or not...
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#209 Jun 29 2013 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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Haha, whoops. Forgot to log out on my PS3, came to work and decided to download the client on my laptop. Account immediately suspended until I reset my password. I should get a new token I guess, since I deactivated mine long ago. I thought it would just boot me from the PS3 client and download on here no problem. Smiley: lol
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#210 Jun 29 2013 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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Also, **** my work internet is slow as **** Downloading at .57 MB/s, so maybe it'll be done in 5 hours or so.
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#211 Jun 29 2013 at 8:14 AM Rating: Good
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For the Emote shortcut, pressing the right bumper on the 360 (R1 on PS3) swaps your shortcut pallets. Pallet number 8 is defaulted to almost all the menu shortcuts, including the Emote list. You still have to select the individual emote from the list, but all the menus can be put on short cuts (including hunting/crafting/gathering logs, inventory, character sheet, etc).

As far as the race/stat differences, I haven't compared them too closely, but I did notice that each race had two subraces (where are you from type thing) that changed the stats. I chose the human race for now, as a Thaumaturge, and selected the subclass that increased int/mnd. I seem to be doing pretty well.

Classes are unlocked once you reach level 10 (and do the level 10 class quest, I believe) and you join other 'guilds'. Once you join the other guild you can swap weapons to that class type and change your class that way. Gathering/Crafting are separate classes (similar to original)

Lancers (dragoons) do not have a Wyvern as far as I know. Never seen one floating around.

Last night I played through the story some more. Completed the three dungeons. They were fun. 4 man groups, wasn't too hard finding them. As a Thaumaturge with only the Conjurer's Cure ability unlocked, I was able to play the healing role pretty well.

First dungeon went smoothly. Two Lancers, One Marauder, and me the Thaumaturge. I think this was the Limsa one. Pretty easy.

Second dungeon went really well, we all died once. This was one Marauder and Three Thaumaturges. Gridania one, If I remember right.

Third one was a bit harder. The one outside Ul'dah. Lancer, Thaumaturge, Conjurer, Marauder. We wiped on the final boss, and half of us died during two mini boss battles. First mini battle only the Marauder and I were left, and I did nothing but spam Cure on him (and ice on the enemy to boost my MP Regen) while he attacked. Second mini battle only me and the Conjurer were left and we kited the enemy around waiting to trigger specific area events that were key to winning the battle.

Wiping is relatively penalty free. Mini boss areas are locked 15 seconds after you engage the battle, so anyone that dies and respawns is locked out of rejoining the battle until either the battle is won, or everyone wipes. If everyone wipes and respawns, the battle is reset and the area unlocks again. There are many little off shoot paths that contain Treasure Coffers. Coffers contain either currency and consumables that are randomly distributed amongst party members, or equipment that is distributed on a Need/Greed/Pass lotto system. You can only roll Need on equipment that your current class can equip. Equipment can be really good too, running the dungeons multiple times (helping out people still on the story quest) is actually rewarding for people who have already done it.
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#212 Jun 29 2013 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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I like the FATE events (yeah, yeah ATM machine, PIN number, etc.) popping up. It reminds me of GW2. It's cool now, when lots of people are running around, since usually everyone is doing their own thing, and it's kind of an organic way to bring people together.
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#213 Jun 29 2013 at 8:24 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks for the info.

I made the mistake of opening the manual. Now my screen is just black with a cursor on it. Let's hope it's still downloading, and that the picture comes back.
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#214 Jun 29 2013 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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Smiley: lol
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#215 Jun 29 2013 at 8:29 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I just exited it and re-entered. Thankfully, that doesn't seem to have screwed anything up.
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#216 Jun 29 2013 at 9:18 AM Rating: Good
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I just unlocked the ability to create Materia... unfortunately to actually put Materia into equipment yourself, you need a crafting (not cooking) class at level 19 or higher.
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#217 Jun 29 2013 at 9:21 AM Rating: Good
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I don't know that I'll touch the crafting stuff in the beta. It's never been terribly important to me in a game, unless it's something I'm required to do, in which case I just hope it's as painless as possible. Smiley: lol
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#218 Jun 29 2013 at 11:50 AM Rating: Good
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Can someone send me a link to where you download the PC client? I never got an actual email from them, just a PSN message.

The game looks promising, but I don't know if I'll like the controller style in the long run. We'll see. Graphically it's far better than anything my current PC can push out.

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Actually, thinking about it, I have no clue if that's true. I know the old version REALLY taxed my PC, but I also know they expanded the graphical range to include lower-power PCs... Downloading the benchpress now.

Edited, Jun 29th 2013 1:52pm by idiggory
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#219 Jun 29 2013 at 12:06 PM Rating: Good
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BTW what server are we all on, and your all up to **** early!
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#220 Jun 29 2013 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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#221 Jun 29 2013 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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I'm on Shiva, just because it was the top of the list for EU/NA back when I first got into the Beta.

Also, what do you mean too early? You posted that at 2pm EST.

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#222 Jun 29 2013 at 12:24 PM Rating: Good
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Its 11 am PST Also Shiva is listed as a EU Legacy ;s

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#223 Jun 29 2013 at 12:26 PM Rating: Good
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It wasn't listed as Legacy only when I created my characters... hmm. (Cause I'm not legacy).

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It appears that "Legacy Servers" are just servers that allow your 1.0 characters to be transferred to them. New players can play on Legacy servers, and Legacy players can put new characters on any server they want. It's just that if you wanted your 1.0 character in ARR, they have to be on Legacy servers.

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#224 Jun 29 2013 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
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Legacy doesn't mean legacy only. It just means it's not a new server.
#225 Jun 29 2013 at 12:36 PM Rating: Good
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Ahh I see welp made a character there anyway, a Male Cat dude.
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#226 Jun 29 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Good
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Thanks.

And I'm on Leviathan, though that doesn't mean much yet.
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#227 Jun 29 2013 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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I'm on... Diabolos maybe?

These characters get wiped before the open beta anyway, right? And then the Phase 4 characters carry over? I think there's some Zam people rolling on Ultros for launch. I don't know who, because I don't know who's who with real names from Facebook. Smiley: lol
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#228 Jun 29 2013 at 2:54 PM Rating: Good
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Well Im sold, Imma pick up a copy soon. GMG still has it on sale i think
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#229 Jun 29 2013 at 2:57 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, and you still get 25% off using GMG25-BAWQB-8UQWG

So you can get the regular version for 22.50 or the CE for 37.50 (just has a couple extra in game items.)
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#230 Jun 29 2013 at 3:04 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
Yes, and you still get 25% off using GMG25-BAWQB-8UQWG

So you can get the regular version for 22.50 or the CE for 37.50 (just has a couple extra in game items.)


Yeah, I'm probably going to grab it as well. I've only reviewed Archer and Thaumaturge so far. The first is fun, the second was confusing (having no idea what the buffs did, or how to read that info on the PS3 version).

What are the CE items? Anything good?
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#231 Jun 29 2013 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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I don't know if I'm going to keep playing this weekend or next. I've decided to buy it and I'm not sure that I really want to do too much content that I'll just be re-doing in Phase 4.
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#232 Jun 29 2013 at 4:11 PM Rating: Decent
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I've played a few hours, and so far it's not bad. I don't know if I'll keep playing once it goes live or not. I'm currently on Midgardsormr, but that can change since nothing matters until phase 4. I'll have to play a bit more to see what the rest of the world is like before I can decide. Right now I've got a level 7 Lancer in Gridania. I like the feel of the city, and the graphics are great. I could go for a bit more in the way of lore, but I suppose that will come in time.
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I do like the sheer number of NPCs you can chat with. That was one of my biggest gripes with SWTOR and, to a lesser extent, GW2. They had such vibrant worlds and strong story bases, but you could barely interact with anyone who wasn't a quest giver.

Now, it seems like you can interact with a majority of NPCs. And if not a majority, a substantial minority.

I'll probably play a little more, more to get my typical launch habits out of the way than anything else. It tends to take me a while to settle on a main, until I know what class I like, race I like, etc.

I figure getting at least a base of experience with each class, race, and city will help make the actual launch more efficient for me.
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#234 Jun 29 2013 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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Instanced party fight for the level 20-22 Story Quest (a bit after the 3 city dungeons) is really fun. Things are well balanced. I won't spoil the name of the boss, but I'm sure it's spoiled all over the shout channels with the "LFG <XXX> Fight". It's nice that you can progress through the story and don't have to worry about traversing a whole zone or two without aggro like in FFXI. Most of the story events are solo.

Oh, and if you hadn't noticed, Square Enix went ahead and put scantily clad cat girl dancers in some of the cities and towns for us, along with audiences cheering them on, so people didn't have to waste their time creating catgirls, stripping them down, and dancing.

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#235 Jun 29 2013 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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I have no idea what I want to make for launch. I don't know how likely I am to level more than one character, unless there are some race-specific storylines (like in GW2). I do like the cat girl and elf females, but I'll probably end up making a plain Jane human female.

I was really disappointed at the lack of a decent selection of beards for human males. Smiley: frown
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I have no idea what I want to make for launch. I don't know how likely I am to level more than one character, unless there are some race-specific storylines (like in GW2). I do like the cat girl and elf females, but I'll probably end up making a plain Jane human female.

I was really disappointed at the lack of a decent selection of beards for human males. Smiley: frown


Honestly I couldnt figure out why you cant change marking on the cat people. it seems kind of weird. Also other then a chin scruff they lack any sort of beards/goatee ohh and almost all their hairstyles are beiber cuts.

I think I may be coming a tad jaded to Jpop hair styles
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#237 Jun 29 2013 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe I should make a Tarutaru (whatever the **** they're called in this one) Paladin.
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Yeah, what's with this recent trend of disappointing beard options in games? I don't approve.

That said, I'm looking at the patch notes now, and it says character creation options will be expanded/adjusted following phase 4.
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Well there better be some mighty beards, and at least one good wizard beard, FFS.
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#240 Jun 29 2013 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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GW2 had this problem, too. And WoW has never had good beards, except for gnomes.

TOR is the only game that actually bothered giving you some quality full beard options. And, hell, they had tons of other facial options as well. At the very least, I hope they add them later, with tailor NPCs or something.

I like the take on the cities, so far. Ul'dah is probably my least favorite, but not by any huge margin. Limsa Lomisa and Gridania are fairly close.

I'm guessing the Arcanist Guild will be in LL, since right now they only have one main class option to start there. The other two cities both have three options, and each has a DoM (Lancer/Archer/Conjurer for Gridania, Pugilist/Gladiator/Thaumaturge for Ul'dah). LL just has the Marauder right now.

I'm also guessing they'll either be revealing another Disciple of the Hand at the next major event (QuakeCon?) or they'll be starting the first expansion class in LL.

I'm guessing it'll be in an expansion, and I'm guessing it'll be Thief (or similar), with the additional introduction of the Corsair job.

As of right now, I'll probably start Arcanist.
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#241 Jun 29 2013 at 6:43 PM Rating: Good
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I'll be starting Glad, aiming to unlock Paladin.
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Limsa doesn't have it's Disciple of the Field class yet, does it? I assume it will be fishing?

Gridania has Bontany
Ul'dah has Mining
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#243 Jun 29 2013 at 6:48 PM Rating: Good
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They specifically mention Fishing in the opening series, so almost certainly.
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Double. Smiley: madSmiley: madSmiley: mad

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#245 Jun 29 2013 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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When you are looking for Fates, they never show up as often as you'd like...
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I've already accepted that fate from GW2 dailies. Whenever I was focused on a task, they were everywhere. Whenever I needed them for my daily quest, I couldn't find a single one nearby.

They're the sorts of events that are best considered random bonuses, not something you seek. I don't know if there's a reason you WOULD be actively seeking them in FFXIV (like daily quests, or particular bonuses). But that's my take on it.

Oh, something worth noting (because it isn't at ALL clear from the character creation screen), is that there might be multiple pages of creation options. Specifically, hair styles. Try to scroll to the right from the bottom-most style, and you might have more options.
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Idk I got to 9 and Im out of quests :s I found one quest I couldnt complete so it may be causeing an entire chain to break (Some quest where i have to emote 4 workers I can only find 2 and according to the quest ring the other 2 should be there but arent.) I just kind of logged out I dont have the time to quest and like you said fates never show up when you want. And the fates areound me were all the same level if not higher and I died a few times and just got **** and logged off. I was on a Pugulist, I still want to buy7 the game but when I know the character is going to be reset F-it Ill wait, why spend a ton of time into something to be deleted.
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Once you progress through the story and join one of the three nations "Grand Companies" FATEs are a good source of the currency used to buy gear and stuff from the company store. Daily gathering missions give you 5-100 depending on what item you turn in. FATEs give you 50-200 for the level 10-15 ones.

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I just reached the end of the main story line available during Beta. The game announced it to me and thanked me for playing, told me to continue enjoying the Beta.

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#249 Jun 29 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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Neat. I just hit 15, and got my shield throw ability. Maybe next weekend I'll play after all. Honestly, I don't think I'll mind running through this again. I had a pretty good time.
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I just wish these beta times weren't so dumb. Sunday is the day I actually get to sit down and do what I want. Smiley: lol
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My general strategy with betas is to spend my time paying attention to all the things I wouldn't really care about during typical play. Well, not that I wouldn't care, but they're the things I'm less likely to need fresh to enjoy things.

Things like getting a basic, working knowledge of the maps. I'm fairly comfortable with Gridania at this point, at least to the degree I feel I'll need it in the first 10 or so levels.

I'm trying to figure out how the class mechanics work, since that's not clear. But now I know, for instance, that Marauder "combo bonuses" are created by using the combo skill after the previous skill. Sure, that wouldn't have taken much to figure out on launch day, but knowing it already is just nicer. It also gives me knowledge I can pass on to others when the game does launch, and make their lives easier.

Stuff like that. Focusing on learning how to play the game let's me spend my launch time actually focusing on playing/enjoying the game. And as long as I'm having fun in the beta, I don't care.
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