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#1152 Oct 20 2013 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Everything being way too easy to level combined with the lack of end game content might end up killing this game rather early. Coil is great and hard and all, but I'm quickly running out of interesting things to do. I really don't understand why they made crafting/gathering classes so easy to cap as well. With how we still don't have a date for 2.1, I'm starting to get rather worried for the game.
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#1153 Oct 20 2013 at 5:37 PM Rating: Good
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I wouldn't say they made things too easy, they just didn't make enough content. I'm closing in on my relic weapon, I just need Titan and 325 tomes to finish it. Not that I'm in a hurry, I got the spear from Garuda. But that's just one item, I still need to update all the rest of my gear. I would like to see more varied content. Instead of just grinding out the same dungeons for tomes over and over again, I'd like to see more variety in places to get them, or even gear drops that have nothing to do with tomes. There is Coil for drops, but that's the only alternative, and you need to have pretty decent gear before going in there anyway.

As to crafting, I really enjoy it, but I don't see a point to it at endgame. Melding relics is the only real reason to have a craft at level 50. Nothing that can be crafted is better than or even comparable to what you can get elsewhere.

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#1154 Oct 20 2013 at 6:01 PM Rating: Good
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I've got Gladiator at 32 with Paladin unlocked. Fisher at 50, and Mining at 35. I'm moving pretty slowly.

I think that they really needed to (or still need to) add a flag on items if it was gathered or created yourself and use that flag for crafting and gathering leves and quests. Being able to do various quests just by going to the marketplace breaks the immersion so badly. Like the final Fisher quest, too easy to just buy it. Personally I don't use the marketplace for stuff like that. All my gathering class quests I go out and gather them myself rather than buy them all and burn through them. Same as crafting leves, I don't just buy my requested gear.
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#1155 Oct 21 2013 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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crafting, I really enjoy it, but I don't see a point to it at endgame. Melding relics is the only real reason to have a craft at level 50. Nothing that can be crafted is better than or even comparable to what you can get elsewhere.

Melded ilvl70 crafted items are better than darklight. And in some cases, usually with accessories, even best in slot. All of the best gathering and crafting gear is also made by crafters. Allagan drops from coil which you can only do once a week and mytho tomes cap at 300 per week, so you'll find that obtaining gear better than the crafted gear isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. Especially for secondary classes.

And crafting is most definitely too easy to level. It only takes me like 4 days to level a craft to 50. It's so easy that the market for selling items is **** because everybody and their mother can also easily make everything.
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#1156 Oct 21 2013 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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I foolishly leveled CUL to 50 first. It will be useful for other crafts, but having it at level 50 literally does nothing for me. No one cares to buy high end food, and thus mass producing the best ones does not even have a high profit margin for the amount of time invested to gather the mats (even with 50 BTN, which actually makes more money by itself just selling a couple of the high level mats).
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If the high level food like HQ deviled eggs or HQ/NQ bouillabasse aren't selling what you could possibly do is try getting commissions from people. Have them provide the mats and shards/crystals and you craft them the food. I do this for free for people in my FC so that I can more quickly spiritbond the ilvl55 crafting armor in a chance to get t4 materia to sell or use. Stuffed t1 resist materia into it so that it spiritbonds faster too.
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#1158 Oct 22 2013 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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Hmm, that's not a bad idea. Also, any materia will increase spiritbonding speed or only specific ones?
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#1159 Oct 22 2013 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
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The more it has the faster it will gain. Tier and type doesn't seem to matter.
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#1160 Oct 22 2013 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ended up getting FFXIV finally. If anyone's on Malboro*, I'm playing as Lyriana O'halloran.


*My roommate got the game before I did and wanted to be on the server that reminded him of his brand of smokes.

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#1161 Oct 22 2013 at 1:14 PM Rating: Good
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Ended up getting FFXIV finally. If anyone's on Malboro*, I'm playing as Lyriana O'halloran.


*My roommate got the game before I did and wanted to be on the server that reminded him of his brand of smokes.

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#1162 Oct 22 2013 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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Question: Is there any way to report or ignore someone in game? I'm getting tired of a gil spammer. I went as far as trying to right click their name, so I'll probably feel silly for not seeing an obvious solution.
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#1166 Oct 23 2013 at 7:45 AM Rating: Excellent
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^ What Deadgye said, though make sure that if you're typing their name in manually, the quotation marks on either end of their name are required. So, to blacklist someone named Asdf Jkl who was spamming in /shout I would have to type
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#1167 Oct 23 2013 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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You actually don't need the ending quotation marks for some reason. Simply having the quotation marks before their name makes it work.
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#1168 Oct 23 2013 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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You actually don't need the ending quotation marks for some reason. Simply having the quotation marks before their name makes it work.
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#1169 Oct 23 2013 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, really? I was not aware of that. Nifty.
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#1170 Oct 25 2013 at 5:26 PM Rating: Good
Apparently, they just reported that FFXIV now has 1.5+ million "registered accounts"

So it seems to be doing well.
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#1171 Oct 29 2013 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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So, I'm a bit lost. After doing the emissary quest thingy(from the desert to the L place and the treeish place), I don't see any further storyline quests to continue on. Any suggestions on where to go to continue it? 16 or 17th atm.
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#1172 Oct 29 2013 at 8:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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So, I'm a bit lost. After doing the emissary quest thingy(from the desert to the L place and the treeish place), I don't see any further storyline quests to continue on. Any suggestions on where to go to continue it? 16 or 17th atm.
Go back to the Waking Sands, maybe?
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So, I'm a bit lost. After doing the emissary quest thingy(from the desert to the L place and the treeish place), I don't see any further storyline quests to continue on. Any suggestions on where to go to continue it? 16 or 17th atm.
Go back to the Waking Sands, maybe?

Upvote for a safe response! This is the answer to 50% of the story quests, maybe more. Always go back to Min! She sends you halfway around the world, then contacts you on that receiver thingy she gave you just to say, "Come back here so I can fill you in on what's been happening." Huh? Tell me now! No, you have to travel back to her, then she sends you back to where you were . . .

Actually, I think this is where you go back to your home city, which sounds like Ul'dah, so you can attend the party. Did you do that already? Open your quest log and look for the story line quest, I think you have to go upstairs? You need the earrings to get into the party and I don't remember where you get them. Cool cutscene - watch the general hold up the Sultana. They need to add that to the game as an emote or something.


EDIT: I think everything is spoiler material when answering a quest question.



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#1174 Oct 29 2013 at 9:34 AM Rating: Good
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Open the map and browse through the main cities/vesper bay to see if any of them have a quest node?
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Open the map and browse through the main cities/vesper bay to see if any of them have a quest node?

Tried that. Didn't see anything but that doesn't mean it wasn't necessarily there. I did use spot checks as my dump skill. Also already attended the party. I'm thinking I'll just go to the starters for each and every 15th level quest that doesn't look familiar to me until I find something.
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#1176 Oct 29 2013 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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Did you pick a Grand Company yet?
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That's at 20, right? Then no.

I did find a quest hub to just do some stuff at over in Drybones, so I've been doing that. Oh, and while looking for a story quest, I ran across someone who taught me how to dye. Thus it begins.

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#1178 Oct 29 2013 at 3:42 PM Rating: Decent
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
That's at 20, right? Then no.

I did find a quest hub to just do some stuff at over in Drybones, so I've been doing that. Oh, and while looking for a story quest, I ran across someone who taught me how to dye. Thus it begins.

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You'd be amazed at how many people where shouting for the location of the orange juice vender a couple months ago. It's amazing how hard it is for people to to just look for stuff before begging to be lead to the answer.
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Open the map and browse through the main cities/vesper bay to see if any of them have a quest node?

Tried that. Didn't see anything but that doesn't mean it wasn't necessarily there. I did use spot checks as my dump skill. Also already attended the party. I'm thinking I'll just go to the starters for each and every 15th level quest that doesn't look familiar to me until I find something.

Try this, a list of the story quests. See which is the last you did and pick up from there. I seem to remember hitting a spot early on where I didn't intuitively know where to go. Maybe that's where you are now.

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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Open the map and browse through the main cities/vesper bay to see if any of them have a quest node?

Tried that. Didn't see anything but that doesn't mean it wasn't necessarily there. I did use spot checks as my dump skill. Also already attended the party. I'm thinking I'll just go to the starters for each and every 15th level quest that doesn't look familiar to me until I find something.


A common one for people to miss during the Emissary questline is talking to the Seer guy after completing Gridania's quest. He is near the Conjurers' Guild I believe. At that point in the quest there is no active quest telling you to talk to him, but there is a quest icon on him. I have helped probably 4 or 5 people at that point during the quest. It's one of the few points where visiting Minfilia or one of the Adventure Guild folk isn't the answer.

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It looks like this is the point where I'm at. I'll have to check it out in the morning. Thanks for the help, y'all.


And I was going to be damned if I had to ask where to find orange juice, but the story quest thing eluded me since I couldn't seem to find the next breadcrumb.
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#1182 Oct 30 2013 at 8:55 AM Rating: Good
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So, found it. Sure enough, that was correct. For some reason, however, he wasn't showing up on the map, but when I got there, it was plain as day. Smiley: glare

Edit: And it seems to be a party quest. Hrm.

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#1183 Oct 30 2013 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
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Ya. Pretty sure that's the first of the 3 starter dungeons.
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I was hoping to avoid doing PuGs. Oh well. Couldn't get a group via Duty Finder this morning, so I'll try it again on the weekend. Can level Archer if I play tomorrow.
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#1185 Oct 30 2013 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
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I went through the whole storyline using the duty finder. It worked out well enough. Just make sure to check out the fights before hand so you know what to do. Some of them are fairly straightforward, others have some odd mechanics. Really, using the DF is a pretty painless way to play, as long as you have something else to do in game while waiting for it. Now that a lot of people have at least one level 50 it's probably going to take longer getting groups though.
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I don't think it's feasible to go through without it. Possible, but not particularly efficient.

The biggest issue is going to be the primal fights. There's no reason to redo them, besides the quest credit, so finding people to do them is going to be hard. But because they're required to advance the story, they'll be people in the queue.

They REALLY need to add in some item rewards to those. Because the chance to wipe is higher than in dungeons, so higher repair bills, but you don't get ANYTHING for them.
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The problem is that with a job system, you only have to do the story once. In other MMO where you have to level a new character to play a different class, there's a constant stream (or at least a trickle) of players that are going to be running low-level content. They should implement some sort of daily reward for running each dungeon/fight daily, maybe a weekly reward if you complete X number of dungeons in a week. It can be something as simple as a massive EXP reward (maybe a usable item so you could use it on another job).
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Just make sure to check out the fights before hand so you know what to do.
Any recommendations on where to look up fights?

On a closely related note, any suggestions on where to look up more optimal stat allocation(I've been doing 3int->1 piety) and rotations by class? Also, any suggestions on proper threat management? Only thing close to a dungeon I've done is some single boss FATEs and I've been having trouble not drawing aggro there.
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I don't know what class you are, but this
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leads me to believe ARCTHM/BLM?

As far as dungeons go, I think they did a nice job with dungeon difficulty. You might find the earlier dungeons a bit easy, but they seem to start off simple and slowly, with each one adding something to the mix until you get to Hauke Manor, which was the first dungeon I found to be challenging (as a CNJ/WHM). The first dungeon was more of a "everyone DPS" kind of thing. As a CNJ, I was throwing a heal every 10 seconds or so - a long time to sit and watch, so I was doing a fair bit of dps also.

If I recall correctly, the first dungeon's only real mechanic was on the final boss fight. Someone correct me if I have my dungeons mixed up, but I think that was the one where you fight the boss in a cavern and there are four grates on the floor. When you get a message that the water is bubbling up or boiling up, you have to interact with that grate or an add joins the fight. The first time I did it no one knew about that mechanic and we downed the boss in one shot with a load of adds.

Because it's so early in the life of the game, I didn't find any one place for good fight descriptions and wound up using google each time. There is a pretty decent sub-reddit (FFXIVTC*) dedicated to theorycrafting only - no "look at the pretty screenshot" posts - and I'm at the office and don't have access to my gaming computer but there's also at least one decent theorycrafting website. I'm sure google will turn it up.

* There's actually a thread on the front page titled "BLM Stat weights in term of Int/DPS." They seem to be dismissive of Piety.

As far as threat management goes, it is definitely something you will always be aware of, which is something I love about this game. Unlike WoW where you count to five or something and then blast away as DPS, in this game threat is always an issue. That makes tanking, DPSing, and healing much more interesting, in my opinion. I can't speak to your actual threat management skills because my ARC is still low level. My CNJ/WHM really didn't get much of a threat skill until later than you are now, and I use it all the time in dungeons on the trash fights.



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Unlike WoW where you count to five or something and then blast away as DPS, in this game threat is always an issue.
Threat was always an issue for me in WoW, especially with PuG tanks. That's part of why I'm so concerned about it now.

I'll check out that link after lunch. Sounds like EJ, which I always enjoyed reading. Thanks for the info.
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The problem is that with a job system, you only have to do the story once. In other MMO where you have to level a new character to play a different class, there's a constant stream (or at least a trickle) of players that are going to be running low-level content. They should implement some sort of daily reward for running each dungeon/fight daily, maybe a weekly reward if you complete X number of dungeons in a week. It can be something as simple as a massive EXP reward (maybe a usable item so you could use it on another job).

There will be something similar to this in 2.1.

I don't even know if I'll still be subbed by the time 2.1 hits though, lol.
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I don't even know if I'll still be subbed by the time 2.1 hits though, lol.
I only played the "free" 30 days. I'll resub for a month when there's a major story update or something. I had a lot of fun in the game, but unfortunately there just wasn't a compelling reason to stay subscribed. I feel like I can subscribe for a month every once in a while, get my fill and be done with it. This isn't really an issue with FFXIV, but MMO in general for me.
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I don't even know if I'll still be subbed by the time 2.1 hits though, lol.
I only played the "free" 30 days. I'll resub for a month when there's a major story update or something. I had a lot of fun in the game, but unfortunately there just wasn't a compelling reason to stay subscribed. I feel like I can subscribe for a month every once in a while, get my fill and be done with it. This isn't really an issue with FFXIV, but MMO in general for me.


I was having tons of fun up until level 30 or so. My fun dropped off significantly after that. I feel like they have some solid ideas, but they need work, and a bunch more content from level 1 all the way through cap.

If they make those changes, I'll probably check the game out again after the first major expansion.
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I was having fun up until I went away for a week and realized that I didn't really miss it. I logged on last night to do some botany and that was it. Haven't run any dungeons in a couple weeks, and find myself playing other games on the weekends. Doesn't help that all of my main group of friends unsubbed.
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I'm still playing. I'm enjoying the casual route. Right now I play a couple hours a day and am working on 100% fishing. I'm still only a level 34 Paladin. Haven't progressed the story too much, just exploring the world.

One thing I don't like is how empty Duty Finder makes the world. So many good looking areas, and I only see a couple people running around. Major dungeon entrances are almost barren. I liked it during Closed Beta before they added the Duty Finder. Now people want to fight Ifrit, one person is in Ul'dah, another is in Gridania, a third is over in Costa Del Sol, etc. Not one even in the Bowl of Embers or even Drybone. I like the Duty Finder, I just don't like what it does to the zones.

Shout is all but dead except for the "LFM FATE" or "LFM HYDRA" shouts. I think this is because most players stopped using the shout channel after the crazy RMT Spam. But the RMT no longer spam Shout, it's all about random tells. And those are few and far in between these days.

I hate FATE groups, and I hate how the player base has to be 100% best efficiency all the time rather than enjoying the game for what it is. Playing this game casually is such a different experience. And when they made the game so casual-friendly, it made it way too easy for those that played constantly and sought out the most efficient routes for everything. It's almost as if the player base ruins the game for themselves.

IMO though, they really should have used a "handcrafted/self-gathered" flag on the items to make sure that people doing crafting/gathering class quests and leves don't just buy the items and turn them in. Not doing that was a mistake. Being able to just buy these things ruins the experience and ruins a simple game feature. But I don't think they'll ever change that.

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I've tried Titan HM so many times I've got the fight memorized, but I can never get with a group that can actually kill the *******. I did get to 3% today, but then the whole thing just fell apart, I have no idea how. That coupled with the either fact that I'm stuck grinding tomes or leveling crafts that have no real use at the moment and I've pretty much lost interest. I'll pop in now and again until my sub runs out then take a break. Hopefully a few patches from now there will be some decent content. I have BF4 and NI No Kuni, not to mention my ridiculous Steam stockpile to play, so I've got plenty to keep my occupied while I wait for SE to make the game fun again.

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TirithRR wrote:
I think this is because most players stopped using the shout channel after the crazy RMT Spam. But the RMT no longer spam Shout, it's all about random tells. And those are few and far in between these days.

But when they do hit, they seem to go on forever. My first couple days - before I got the commands from you guys to BList them - I saw what I think was the same spammer spamming for 24+ straight hours.

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Wow, you've got an awesome writing style.! I really dig the narrator's back story, humor, sarcasm, and the plethora of pop culture references. Altogether a refreshingly different RotR journal (not that I don't like the more traditional ones, mind you).

#1198 Nov 02 2013 at 4:09 AM Rating: Good
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
TirithRR wrote:
I think this is because most players stopped using the shout channel after the crazy RMT Spam. But the RMT no longer spam Shout, it's all about random tells. And those are few and far in between these days.

But when they do hit, they seem to go on forever. My first couple days - before I got the commands from you guys to BList them - I saw what I think was the same spammer spamming for 24+ straight hours.

Edited, Nov 1st 2013 11:44pm by Poldaran


Used to get /tell spam from Goldceo Com<random letters> all day long, ever 30-40 minutes. It was never the same one. But after the last mass bannings a couple days ago I haven't seen any Goldceo spam. And I only got two other /tell spam messages.
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#1199 Nov 02 2013 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
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Turin wrote:
I've tried Titan HM so many times I've got the fight memorized, but I can never get with a group that can actually kill the *******. I did get to 3% today, but then the whole thing just fell apart, I have no idea how. That coupled with the either fact that I'm stuck grinding tomes or leveling crafts that have no real use at the moment and I've pretty much lost interest. I'll pop in now and again until my sub runs out then take a break. Hopefully a few patches from now there will be some decent content. I have BF4 and NI No Kuni, not to mention my ridiculous Steam stockpile to play, so I've got plenty to keep my occupied while I wait for SE to make the game fun again.

Edited, Nov 2nd 2013 1:23am by Turin


See, I also have console games to play, and a massive backlog on Steam...

Yet I just resubeed to TOR. Smiley: lol
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#1200 Nov 02 2013 at 7:23 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Yet I just resubeed to TOR. Smiley: lol
I've been considering it. Smiley: lol

I suppose I should also go check out GW2 again. I mean, I already did buy the box and whatnot. May as well.
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#1201 Nov 03 2013 at 9:24 AM Rating: Good
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Is there any news on FF 15 (XV) or has this thread been taken over by FF 14 (XIV)

Edited, Nov 3rd 2013 10:24am by rdmcandie
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