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#802 Aug 25 2013 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Gives me an excuse to finish cleaning and make some lunch.

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#803 Aug 25 2013 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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I thought about that... but I think I'm going to take a nap instead. Smiley: lol
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#804 Aug 25 2013 at 3:05 PM Rating: Good
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People were wondering where to get Ice crystals, right? Botany can harvest them.
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#805 Aug 25 2013 at 5:48 PM Rating: Decent
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...and error 3102 again. You'd think after this sh*t happened to thousands of people last weekend they would have actually bothered to fix it.
#806 Aug 25 2013 at 7:52 PM Rating: Good
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lol SE fix
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#807 Aug 25 2013 at 9:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure what the deal is but no logging in for most of the day today. Maintenance and then a 1017 error. But, on the upside, someone took one of Maz's old WoW streams and re-uploaded it to YouTube with new captions for FFXIV 1017 error. This was either his Onyxia stream or Prince stream. So, anyway, here's Maz leading a raid group:



EDIT: Oh, now I remember, it was Ony. At the end there he lost the roll on a chest piece.



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#808 Aug 26 2013 at 8:23 AM Rating: Good
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I managed to get a few hours in. After some shaky login situations, it ran fairly smoothly for me for the last few hours before the maintenance last night. No issues so far today, but it's Monday so I imagine the server load won't be so bad during work and school hours.

GLA25 CNJ19 MRD9 ACN7 so far. Just did Toto-Rak before work this morning, and it was fun but I had some difficulty in maintaining hate over an Archer. I think I'm a bit undergeared and taking too much damage, increasing the difficulty of maintaining threat levels. Luckily at 26, I'll get Rage of Halone, which should help a ton. I did get a cool new sword, so perhaps the increased damage will help maintain as well.

I don't have much of a plan right now. I really enjoy tanking so I've been plodding along, but I should probably go back and do some gathering and crafting, since I believe you need to have a craft leveled in order to put materia in your gear (I could be wrong), and I can see how materia would help out as I level up more.
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#809 Aug 26 2013 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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People were wondering where to get Ice crystals, right?
Iceberg, right ahead.
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#810 Aug 26 2013 at 2:25 PM Rating: Good
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Oh wow, I missed this thread completely. I should check this forum more often. Well, I'm Vat Aro on Ultros, feel free to send me a friend invite if you happen to be there.
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#811 Aug 26 2013 at 2:26 PM Rating: Good
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Also is there a LS so I can actually chat with you fools? Already in a FC so that won't work.
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#812 Aug 26 2013 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, we have a small one going. I think there's a large Zam FC, but I"m not in any FC at the moment anyway.

I'm Niamh Murphy, TirithRR is Saruto Baruto, Turin is Turin Alexander, and idiggory is Balick Degare. Any of us could invite you to the LS. Feel free to send a Friend Request if you see me online. I log in at work and AFK a bit sometimes.
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#813 Aug 26 2013 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
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It looks like I was logged out during the maintenance, so I can play again...if the world weren't full. I may get to play at some point today, just not sure when.
#814 Aug 26 2013 at 3:52 PM Rating: Good
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TINFS is the shell (20 character limit). Figured a shell was our best bet, so we can chat without having to sacrifice whatever content we want to do.

Dunno if I'll be on tonight; I have a lot to do. But I promoted everyone to a leader, so anyone can add you.
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#815 Aug 26 2013 at 4:01 PM Rating: Good
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Well, world is full of course, so looks like we won't be playing tonight.
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#816 Aug 26 2013 at 4:20 PM Rating: Good
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Only took 15 minutes of spamming logging in to get in! I'm legitimately impressed.
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#817 Aug 26 2013 at 4:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I wouldn't mind if they at least bothered to use a queue, at least I would get in eventually. This just trying over and over again is bullsh*t. If I do manage to log in, I'm not logging out, they'll have to shut down the servers to get rid of me.
#818 Aug 26 2013 at 4:31 PM Rating: Good
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There is a queue, but apparently that has a limit and then it just kicks you out because it's full. I'd rather see a queue of 2000 players than just "full" though.
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#819 Aug 26 2013 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, because then at least you don't need to constantly go through the menus. If it'll take half an hour, fine. I can keep myself busy for half an hour. But spending that constantly refreshing the login screen is annoying.
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#820 Aug 26 2013 at 5:24 PM Rating: Good
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yeah they really need to open a few more servers and let people transfer into them, even if they are just temporary "overflow" servers and you can return to the old one later.

Edited, Aug 26th 2013 4:24pm by Olorinus
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#821 Aug 26 2013 at 5:32 PM Rating: Good
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The funny thing is that they have the same number of NA/EU servers as Japanese servers, even though the expect population is understandably far larger.

I'm sorry, did I say funny?
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#822 Aug 26 2013 at 5:44 PM Rating: Good
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To me, that just means they have too many JP servers. If they opened more NA/EU servers, when the population drops after the first month or two, we'd end up with dead servers. See: SWTOR. Implementing a real queue instead of expanding servers would be the solution I'd like to see.
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#823 Aug 26 2013 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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Also, automatic log-out timers. Maybe 30 minutes?
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#824 Aug 26 2013 at 5:56 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I'm not sure it's possible to have a smooth launch at this point. EVERYONE is going to be playing at launch day, and your servers are never going to have to operate at that capacity again. So you can either waste a ton of resources on hardware you will never need after the first week, or you can just suffer through it. I can't find I dislike them too much for suffering through.

That said, I do think there are a certain number of steps you take there. The queue was one example. Maybe you enable free world transfers from week 3 to month 3. Let people pre-register servers to linkshells, so they get guaranteed placements on the servers with their friends, and you can plan accordingly for the rest of the space. Etc.

But the problem here is that they're doing none of those things, and their communication sucks. I mean, it IS still SE. I'm not going to quit over it, and it'll be forgotten, but it's still really annoying to have had 3 days of "Early access" as a pre-order reward, and then barely get access over those 3 days.
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#825 Aug 26 2013 at 11:39 PM Rating: Good
Or just create identical numbered zones. Spin up a few cloud servers to handle capacity and wind them and the extra zones down as needed? Seems the route a lot of games take these days.
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#826 Aug 27 2013 at 1:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I managed to log in for a bit (after midnight, it's a good thing I'm not going to work this week) and leveled Marauder for a awhile, it's up to 11 now. Just about to start the first three dungeons on my level 16 Lancer. During beta I picked up a pretty decent hauberk during one of them, so I'm hoping to get something decent this time around too. Though, the official launch happening, I doubt I'll be able to get back on line for awhile. Right now I've the 20% damage buff and the increased critical hit rate ability from Archer and the absorb 25% damage dealt ability from Marauder on my Lancer, it's a solid mix for the moment.

Edited, Aug 27th 2013 3:10am by Turin
#827 Aug 27 2013 at 2:18 PM Rating: Good
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How are the servers today? I might have some time to play. Probably won't until tomorrow, but hey - dare to dream.
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#828 Aug 27 2013 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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Durandal continues to be awesome and error free :)
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#829 Aug 27 2013 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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idk, I logged in this morning with no issue and stayed logged in til I got home from work.
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#830 Aug 27 2013 at 5:30 PM Rating: Good
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I managed to log and I'm not logging out until I go to sleep. Right now I'm just hanging out in the inn. I've been crafting a fair bit. It keeps me occupied while waiting on the duty finder to do it's job. I level Blacksmith up so I could avoid having to buy Iron Ingots to use on Carpenter. But the price of Iron ore from NPCs is higher than I want to pay, so now I'm thinking about going out and doing some Mining...

I also invited Cynik to the LS, his name in game is Grisel Nyteshadow, say hi if you see him.

Edited, Aug 28th 2013 1:28am by Turin
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Got my GLA up to 33, and am officially now a PLD. I currently have access to three cross-class abilities, so I'm using Foresight, Bloodbath, and Cure. Haukke Manor is pretty fun (Lv. 28), and Brayflox's Longstop (Lv. 32). I ran Haukke once, and then jumped right into Brayflox's, since I was behind on my story quests, but I was getting hit extremely hard and ended up farming Haukke a bit for gear. Did a second run of BL this morning, and it was much more smoothe. I even got a pair of Cavalry gloves out of it.

I'm so torn on what to do. I'm having a blast playing PLD, but at some point I'm going to have to put it down and do some crafting and gathering.
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#832 Aug 28 2013 at 8:07 AM Rating: Good
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God damn, you level fast.

I think I'll actually be able to play tonight. Smiley: grin
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#833 Aug 28 2013 at 8:36 AM Rating: Good
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I also invited Cynik to the LS, his name in game is Grisel Nyteshadow, say hi if you see him.
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I think I'll actually be able to play tonight. Smiley: grin
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And no funny stuff or Frankie gets it.

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#834 Aug 28 2013 at 8:53 AM Rating: Good
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I also invited Cynik to the LS, his name in game is Grisel Nyteshadow, say hi if you see him.
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God damn, you level fast.

I think I'll actually be able to play tonight. Smiley: grin
I ransacked your room at the Inn last night. I have all of your Frank Sinatra records. If you want them back, leave 200 gil in a plain brown paper bag behind the fence post outside the Archer's Guild.

And no funny stuff or Frankie gets it.



Psh, joke's on you. I booby-trapped my room. Really high-quality traps, too. They pick-pocket intruders.

These ice crystals will MORE than cover the costs of some new records.
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I started mining at work, since I can can just drop it whenever I need to actually you know, work. Pretty entertaining so far. I'm looking forward to leveling it up and going out to the more dangerous areas. Of course, dying isn't so bad in XIV, but I liked mining in FFXI where you could do some safe zones for steady income, or risk dying in some of the dangerous zones for a chance at a big payday. Of course, competition over nodes and botters made it not so fun, but I did like certain aspects of it. Heck, I could probably log into Mount Zhayolm after not playing for several years and still remember my Khroma Ore route.
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Though I have to say I made a LOT of gil going for elm logs in ghelsba outpost. Smiley: lol Super low risk, and elm were selling for a crapton of gil at their peak. But it was slow and boring, so a lot of people didn't bother.

And I really liked leveling botanist. The fieldcraft leves can be fun, too. They're sort of like mathematical scavenger hunts.
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#837 Aug 28 2013 at 12:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Huh this is rather interesting. Apparently you cannot put videos of the game up on places like Youtube and the such. Rather weak move from Square Enix.

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I thought you just couldn't monetize your videos of FFXIV. Still lame, but a notable difference.
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I think you are reading that wrong. It's not that you cannot put videos up on YouTube, it's that you cannot use them for the YouTube partner program. For the record, the partner program is a way to earn money off of YouTube videos by generating ad revenue for the site.

So, essentially, SE is saying you can't profit from their IP. You're still free to upload videos if you're doing it solely for creative purposes.

Otherwise, these seems like very typical brand-control stuff. They aren't giving you any blanket rights to their IP, because it gives them the ability to intervene when it's being used in ways that hurts their brand image.

Really, it seems fairly tame. You can't upload their music, but you can upload the music with associated video. You can't put in new music, because they want to sell the experience. Though I'd be SHOCKED if they ever tried to enforce that rule, excepting comedic videos that they feel hurt the image of the game.

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And just to point it out, the YouTube partner program part is almost certainly to prevent people from posting the CG scenes from the game for profit.

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#840 Aug 28 2013 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
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Woo hoo, boot up FFXIV, and I get a FATE right away...

...The 1017 FATE.
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#841 Aug 28 2013 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I just got 90000'd and am number 189 on the queue, so it's going to be a while.
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I just got 90000'd and am number 189 on the queue, so it's going to be a while.


The queues move fast. It's getting into them that takes forever. Last queue I was in was 398 and it was like... 60 seconds.
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#843 Aug 28 2013 at 8:10 PM Rating: Good
Sounds like an old school torture fest. Ahh FF online games how you love to hurt, more, harder, yesss FF, yes, hurt me, more, talk dirty to me while you suck my life away.

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#844 Aug 29 2013 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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Yeah, the queue moves extremely fast, particularly because I'm remembering time spent on Illidan in WoW, long ago...

Of course, the fact that it moves so fast is one of the slaps in the face with how small the queue may be. There's no good reason for it to have such a low limit, if the people at the very end will be in in a minute or two.
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#845 Aug 29 2013 at 8:04 AM Rating: Good
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I wish that using the Aethernet in a city would just pull up your map, and you could click on the one you want to go to.
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Or at least pulled up a map along with the menu, so you could see where you would be going even if you don't know the name of the landmark.
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So, there I am, trying to log in and I finally get on the queue. I alt tab to wait it out and come back to a message saying the world is full and to try back later. That's right, I got dumped from the queue. I realize that there are a ton of people trying to log on right now, but that's just offensive.
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I sat in traffic for two hours on my commute home, and then I had to move a very, very heavy piano. I want them to let me into the goddamn game, and I'm officially tired of this crap. Smiley: mad

And hey, complaining works. Smiley: grin

Edited, Aug 29th 2013 7:08pm by idiggory
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#849 Aug 29 2013 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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Behemoth spawned, so I went over to check it out. Got one-shotted by some AoE, 90k'd while Home Pointing. Spamming login now. :/
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#850 Aug 29 2013 at 5:35 PM Rating: Good
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