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#52 Mar 09 2013 at 11:51 PM Rating: Good
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Alright you two, enough about the GD DRM.

ETA: I'm up for a Zam region if you guys want to. And IF you guys can stop arguing. Smiley: motz


I'm over it, I refunded my wifes copy 2 days ago via Amazon, I dont trust Origin on my pc atm. I picked up the Tropico 4 Complete on Steam(for her and me) if I want to do Simcity (I also play SimCity Social stupid FB game) Funny part is her account is still active, Im not sure if EA will disable it or not, we'll find out sooner or later.
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#53 Mar 10 2013 at 6:16 AM Rating: Good
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Just because it's slightly on-topic, ALLEGEDLY, after an extensive amount of work in our area, the internet here is finally supposed to be stable again as of today. Or at least their work on it in the area is complete, so it's as stable as it's going to get.

I'm not sure what that actually means, because our internet wasn't super stable before Sandy, but here's hoping. I was getting really tired of it going down all the time...

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I'm over it, I refunded my wifes copy 2 days ago via Amazon, I dont trust Origin on my pc atm.


Why, exactly? I'm not a huge fan of the system--they've failed to do anything interesting or impressive with it, and it segregates some of my games in an annoying way--but I've never had any problems with it otherwise.

Edited, Mar 10th 2013 8:18am by idiggory
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#54 Mar 10 2013 at 6:57 AM Rating: Excellent
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BeanX wrote:
Nadenu wrote:
Alright you two, enough about the GD DRM.

ETA: I'm up for a Zam region if you guys want to. And IF you guys can stop arguing. Smiley: motz


I'm over it, I refunded my wifes copy 2 days ago via Amazon, I dont trust Origin on my pc atm. I picked up the Tropico 4 Complete on Steam(for her and me) if I want to do Simcity (I also play SimCity Social stupid FB game) Funny part is her account is still active, Im not sure if EA will disable it or not, we'll find out sooner or later.

I play the FB game also, haha. Need another neighbor?
#55 Mar 10 2013 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Why, exactly? I'm not a huge fan of the system--they've failed to do anything interesting or impressive with it, and it segregates some of my games in an annoying way--but I've never had any problems with it otherwise.


It's not cool to hate on Steam anymore, so they have to choose Origin.
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#56 Mar 10 2013 at 4:07 PM Rating: Good
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I had origin installed back during BF3 Beta, Its not that Origin is bad, but I don't agree with EA's policy's. Im not a Fan of how they are segregating the games up. Ubisoft has Uplay but has no problem having a small client so the games can be sold on Steam, also they at least give incentive to have another launcher (spending Uplay achievement points for Ingame freebies/wallpapers,etc) Also Other than chargebacks or malicious hacking, you cant have your Steam account banned and lose access to all your games. Where in lets say I posted something on an EA forum, a mod could suspend my account locking me out of all my games.

I mean **** my Steam accounts value (According to the online Calculator) Is approximately 2700 dollars worth of games.

Also, its a small QoL thing, I like to be able to have all my games present on one list. If I install steam it shows me all the games I have, or can install. If Im bored one day I can look through the list install one I may forgot I have and play it. Just like I keep all my PS1 games in a Binder, so I know everything I have, all my Ps2/3 games are on a shelf next to my Dvds/Bluerays.

I do have some DRM-free/outside Steam DRM games on Amazon and I constantly forget I even have them. Also having to remember to Install so many clients is annoying too, having Steam and Desura is kind of ok, But If you add every "launcher" out ther you would have tons of them (Steam, Desura, Origin, GMG Capsule, Gamestop has a client, Gamefly has a client, etc)

When I see a deal, if the DRM isnt "Steam" many times I wont buy the game, as to not let it slips through the crack, and forget I have it. Not to mention the amount of games I want to play from EA, that require Origin, I can count on 1 hand, and I have alternative DRM options if I wanted to play any of them (Most times) a PS3.

Yes you can add games outside Steam to its list, but only on that PC and if its Installed. Honestly It comes down to personal choice, and how I feel about it. It breaks down to me seeing no benefit from the extra launcher, the overall not liking of EA's business practices(They aren't the only company), and the forced segregation of games in general.

One day I may install it, but felt EA could have offered a smaller launcher like Uplay or GFWL in Steam. But until a "Must have" game is EA only I just dont see the urge.


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#57 Mar 10 2013 at 4:13 PM Rating: Good
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Nadenu wrote:

I play the FB game also, haha. Need another neighbor?


Sure Im in a Simcity Social "fan" group so I have tons of random people on FB for neighbors. I ussually play 1-2 times a day when I check FB in the morning/night.

http://www.facebook.com/james.lange.71


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#58 Mar 10 2013 at 4:50 PM Rating: Good
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Aren't all EA games Origin activated now? It's rough to avoid it now. I get what you're saying, but it seems like a worse QoL to not have it at all. I could absolutely be missing something though. I'd love to disable it for my games just to save the loading time...
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#59 Mar 10 2013 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
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Older games no, going forward yes. Like i said though, I really never liked many games from EA anyway, there was a few but nothing "big". I will probably install it sooner or later but Im not in any rush. Currently the only games I would need Origin for are KoA:R, Mass Effect 3 (Collection), BF3, Crysis3? I want to try the Mass Effect games (Never played them) I could get 1/2 on Steam and play 3 on PS3, or play em all on PS3. Im not a fan of W RPGs, so Dragon Age isnt a game I would find myself getting into, Kingdoms Of Amulaur looked nice, but again I'm not in a rush to play it.

I own a few EA games, but out of my collection maybe 10? Alice Madness Returns(PC) Burnout Paradise Ultimate (PC) Battlefield 1943 HD(PS3) and C&C the First Decade Collection(On Disks) I was considering the new C&C Collection but not for the price they want. The other PC EA games I have are other DRM not Origin.

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#60 Mar 10 2013 at 7:02 PM Rating: Good
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ETA: I'm up for a Zam region if you guys want to. And IF you guys can stop arguing. Smiley: motz


I'm starting a region now. 11 cities, 3 great works - that oughta more than suffice.

I guess I need folks' Origin names to send out the invites. I'm Edge_11SS, if I recall correctly. They're done through the friends list, so I'll friend and add anyone who's interested.
#61 Mar 10 2013 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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Honestly, I don't really understand what people mean when they say they don't like Western RPGs. There's such a huge diversity there, that it's hard to understand what it is they're objecting to.

Besides, if you watch for a sale, you can easily get the complete DA:O collection (and usually with a bonus DA2) for $10 or less.
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#62 Mar 10 2013 at 8:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is the game ********* yet?

Can I buy it yet?
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#63 Mar 10 2013 at 8:12 PM Rating: Good
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Is the game un-@#%^ed yet?

Can I buy it yet?


It's been stable for me for all of today. You're probably good to go.
#64 Mar 10 2013 at 8:13 PM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing when people say they don't like Western RPGs, they really mean they don't like the FPS RPG hybrid that Western RPGs carry to appeal to the non JRPG crowd. Not so much the Western RPGs' storylines.

Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect
Fallout
Bioshock
Dragon Age (to a lesser extent, not quite the same as the previous)
Etc.

They probably dislike it even more because the gameplay style has permeated itself into other game series that have traditionally been more JRPG. And after the PS2's massive traditional RPG offerings, they see what happened with the current gen and blame Western RPGs for the downfall.
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#65 Mar 10 2013 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
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catwho wrote:
Is the game un-@#%^ed yet?


I almost read this as unrated...
And if you look at Amazon it has something like 3,000 single star ratings and only a handful of 2-5 ratings.
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#66 Mar 10 2013 at 8:41 PM Rating: Good
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TirithRR wrote:
I'm guessing when people say they don't like Western RPGs, they really mean they don't like the FPS RPG hybrid that Western RPGs carry to appeal to the non JRPG crowd. Not so much the Western RPGs' storylines.

Morrowind
Oblivion
Skyrim
Mass Effect
Fallout
Bioshock
Dragon Age (to a lesser extent, not quite the same as the previous)
Etc.

They probably dislike it even more because the gameplay style has permeated itself into other game series that have traditionally been more JRPG. And after the PS2's massive traditional RPG offerings, they see what happened with the current gen and blame Western RPGs for the downfall.


I guess that makes sense. I honestly don't really think of much beyond "it was made in the west" when I hear "Western RPG" nowadays. There's just too much diversity. I know they probably have character designs that are less akin to anime. But that's not a rule. Beyond that, idk.

It may be that I don't typically gravitate towards any particular style, so I'm not sensitive to the features of that style. My favorite RPGs of all time include: Skyrim/(Obliv/Morrow), Mass Effect (1-3), Dragon Age Origins (and I did like DA2, though I see why others wouldn't), Kingdom Hearts 1 &2, Final Fantasy X, KotOR. This isn't meant to be a comprehensive list, it's just what happens to be coming to mind right now. We have Action J-rpgs, classic J-rpgs, and W-rpgs (action, strategic, and fps).

I'm generally most sensitive to the story of an RPG though, particularly where characters are concerned. Do that well, and I can be very forgiving of everything else.

That said, BeanX, you should really try Dragon Age Origins. For one thing, the combat is strategic--it plays very similar to an MMO. Except you can control up to 4 characters and you can pause while you plan your attack. Don't have to, though--you can let the AI manage. You can micromanage however much you want. But it gives you decent choices when it comes to building your team of characters, you manage their equipment, and it has a solid central story, interesting/expansive world, and a strong cast of characters.
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#67 Mar 10 2013 at 9:57 PM Rating: Good
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Hmm I would break it down to me personally not liking "choice" I like feel like im missing something everytime I play, **** some JRPGs feel like this. I feel like Im playing the game wrong, Its just mean. With Jrpgs ussually the story is told from an outside perspective, the characters are already defined, they have their own personalities and its like playing a story.

Western RPGS tend to Be way more choice based, like a choose your own adventure, and usually offer to many choices and I get overwhelmed. Disgaea was this until I just beelined the story. Bothe Skyrim and Oblivion i gave about 6 hours total trying to get into it 2 times eac. before I was just so lost and felt lost and I just gave up.

Some games Im fine with it if all the choices are Good/Evil but Dialog trees bother me bad. I havent got into Dragon Age cause I never had time for it honestly, from what I saw it reminded me of Buldars gate for PC, and I didnt like that cause I got lost so easily. Idk Im weird.

I mean my favorite Rpg's are Xenogears and Chronotrigger
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#68 Mar 10 2013 at 10:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Is the game un-@#%^ed yet?

Can I buy it yet?


It's been stable for me for all of today. You're probably good to go.

My husband and I have played it all day today. I think it's pretty much fixed now. Still needs a bit of work, but it's playable and fun.

Eske, my name is melanie6602 in Origin.
#69 Mar 11 2013 at 7:08 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks Nads. I'll add you when I get back from work today (should be around 9:30 EST). I don't see any way that I can do it without the client.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
My favorite RPGs of all time include: Skyrim/(Obliv/Morrow), Mass Effect (1-3), Dragon Age Origins (and I did like DA2, though I see why others wouldn't), Kingdom Hearts 1 &2, Final Fantasy X, KotOR.
I can't help but notice your list is Playstation 2 and newer. Kind of curious about that.
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#71 Mar 12 2013 at 1:17 PM Rating: Good
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I was torn on whether or not I should put Ocarina and Time and Majora's Mask on it, but people tend to get weird about whether or not it can be considered an RPG, so I left it out. Otherwise, I never really played any RPGs on the Nintendo 64. And I didn't really discover RPGs until I first played FFX on the PS2.

I've since played a bunch of the most famous PS RPGs. But it also means that I didn't play FF7-9 until after I played FFX, and it's hard to remove the future goggles. There's a lot about the earlier games I like more, and there's a lot I like less. I still enjoyed them immensely, but I wouldn't put them on my favorites list.
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#72 Mar 12 2013 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
IAnd I didn't really discover RPGs until I first played FFX on the PS2.
I shouldn't have asked. Now I feel old. Just kind of a curious anomaly to me, as I've never really seen a list of favorite rpgs that didn't have an SNES or PS1 entry.
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#73 Mar 12 2013 at 1:28 PM Rating: Good
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I want to say I got my PS1 in... 99? Maybe? Can't quite remember. For the most of that generation, we had a Nintendo 64. I'm having trouble remembering what games we even had for it besides Zelda OOT/MM and GoldenEye (Slappers only FTW).
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#74 Mar 12 2013 at 1:32 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
GoldenEye (Slappers only FTW).


Max health, no body armor, only crouching. Facility.

AND DON'T STAY IN THE VENT.
#75 Mar 12 2013 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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When do we get to the part where I blow myself up with the rocket launcher?
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#76 Mar 12 2013 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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When do we get to the part where I blow myself up with the rocket launcher proximity mines?


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