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#502 Apr 09 2013 at 8:27 AM Rating: Good
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Story-wise, play them in order. Gameplay wise, Dead Space is RE1, and DS2 is RE4.
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#503 Apr 09 2013 at 8:50 AM Rating: Good
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I got Deadlight in that Microsoft bundle from Amazon a while back. I should blow through a couple of those games and feel as though I've accomplished something (so to speak). I have Hotline Miami laying around as well.

I have Dead Space 1 & 2 (and no intent in getting 3). Should I play 1 then 2 or is one of them a vastly superior product?


Everything I've heard (I've got about halfway through 1 before I lost my save and stopped) suggests that they're close enough in quality that you should go in chronological order. Some prefer one or the other, but there isn't a whole lot of consensus. I suspect I'd prefer 1, myself.

But you should really play Hotline Miami first.
#504 Apr 09 2013 at 10:00 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
I got Deadlight in that Microsoft bundle from Amazon a while back. I should blow through a couple of those games and feel as though I've accomplished something (so to speak). I have Hotline Miami laying around as well.

I have Dead Space 1 & 2 (and no intent in getting 3). Should I play 1 then 2 or is one of them a vastly superior product?
Dead Space is one of my favorite games ever. I know a lot of people who prefer Dead Space 2, but those are the people who don't typically like survival horror, as DS2 is a bit more action-oriented. From what I understand, the PC port of the first game has issues, particularly if you play with KB/M. Something about mouse acceleration and aiming issues. I don't know if you have a controller or not, but the consensus is that playing with a controller is superior, for the first title. Apparently they fixed these issues in the port of the second one. I'm not sure what, if any, fixes are available for the original.

Oh, and apparently you want to turn off the in-game v-sync in DS1, and instead force it through your hardware if you want to enable it.

Edited, Apr 9th 2013 12:02pm by Spoonless
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#505 Apr 09 2013 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Good to know. I have a 360 controller for some PC games although I prefer KB/M. But I'll try both or something and decide where I'm comfortable. If KB/M sucks at least I'll know why and what to do about it beyond "ragequit".
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#506 Apr 09 2013 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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Make sure you use a mouse for the turret sections of DS1, it's a lot easier that way.
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#507 Apr 09 2013 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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I didn't find them difficult on PS3 at all, except when trying for the achievements.
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#508 Apr 09 2013 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
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Deadlight was one of my accidental drunken buys. I probably won't like it.
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#509 Apr 09 2013 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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Iron Chef Olorinus wrote:
Deadlight was one of my accidental drunken buys. I probably won't like it.


I hear that the narration is particularly dreadful and the puzzles are dumb, but there's a lot of praise for the visuals, so I'm hoping I can just eke some enjoyment out of them
#510 Apr 09 2013 at 1:50 PM Rating: Good
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the visuals do look pretty but visuals are actually what I care about least in games.
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Looking at that Microsoft pack (Deadlight, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Mark of the Ninja, Toy Soldiers, Iron Brigade) I'm skeptical that I'll like any of them.

Oh well, at least they were cheap Smiley: laugh
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#512 Apr 09 2013 at 2:08 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Looking at that Microsoft pack (Deadlight, Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet, Mark of the Ninja, Toy Soldiers, Iron Brigade) I'm skeptical that I'll like any of them.

Oh well, at least they were cheap Smiley: laugh


If you can't enjoy Mark of the Ninja, I'll be quite disappointed. It topped my GOTY voting in quite a few categories.

One of 2012's best.

Edited, Apr 9th 2013 4:08pm by Eske
#513 Apr 09 2013 at 2:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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If you can't enjoy Mark of the Ninja, I'll be quite disappointed

In me, you or the game?
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#514 Apr 09 2013 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
If you can't enjoy Mark of the Ninja, I'll be quite disappointed

In me, you or the game?


Life, I think.
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Tell whoever on "your" site gave Tomb Raider a 93 to start capping their markers before writing reviews. It's a solid, fun game but it ain't a 93 game.
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#516 Apr 09 2013 at 2:42 PM Rating: Good
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Tell whoever on "your" site gave Tomb Raider a 93 to start capping their markers before writing reviews. It's a solid, fun game but it ain't a 93 game.


I'll get right on that. Smiley: tongue

Haven't played it myself, but from everything I'm read I'm inclined to agree with you about it.
#517 Apr 09 2013 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Tell whoever on "your" site gave Tomb Raider a 93 to start capping their markers before writing reviews. It's a solid, fun game but it ain't a 93 game.
Well, to be fair, most sites rate on a 5 point system: 0-79, 80-89, 90-94, 95-98 and 99-100, where 0-79 is not worth playing, 80-89 is barely worth playing, 90-94 is worth a rental, 95-98 is pretty decent, and 99-100 is good.
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
If you can't enjoy Mark of the Ninja, I'll be quite disappointed
In me, you or the game?
Life, I think.

It's been fun (did the first two levels) but the controls are giving me conniptions.
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#519 Apr 09 2013 at 10:57 PM Rating: Excellent
Deadlight's neat. I think I got it for less than $5, definitely worth it. It's kind of a zombie platformer/puzzle game.
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#520 Apr 10 2013 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
Jophiel wrote:
Eske Esquire wrote:
If you can't enjoy Mark of the Ninja, I'll be quite disappointed
In me, you or the game?
Life, I think.

It's been fun (did the first two levels) but the controls are giving me conniptions.


I'm sure you've already considered it, but maybe a controller would serve better? IIRC the game seemed like it'd be a fine fit for it.

Edited, Apr 10th 2013 9:33am by Eske
#521 Apr 10 2013 at 7:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, I'll probably try it. I just suck at using controllers these days. Too many toggles and switches and I wind up pressing the right trigger on accident just by holding the controller or trying to figure out what the **** the L3 button is or staring at it during a QTE saying "Now which of you is the red button?"

Mainly, I'm just old Smiley: laugh

The game is entertaining though so I'll grant you that.
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#522 Apr 10 2013 at 8:03 AM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
Yeah, I'll probably try it. I just suck at using controllers these days. Too many toggles and switches and I wind up pressing the right trigger on accident just by holding the controller or trying to figure out what the **** the L3 button is or staring at it during a QTE saying "Now which of you is the red button?"

Mainly, I'm just old Smiley: laugh.


S'all in what you're used to, I suppose. I tried to play Battlefield 3 with KB & M for a few rounds last week, and it was an unmitigated disaster.

You know those scenes in Looney Tunes where a character would get the jump on another one with a gun, then proceed to accidentally shoot around them in a complete silhouette? That's what I would do in BF3, except it would end with me getting knifed.

The prompts don't change for controller, either, so whenever it says "Press E to change kits", I get to go through a frantic series of incorrect button presses to figure out what it corresponds to. My character knifes, jumps, shoots, and crouches until he picks up the thing I want. I must look like a spaz.

Edited, Apr 10th 2013 10:04am by Eske
#523 Apr 10 2013 at 8:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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Smiley: lol

I'll pretty much play any PC game that has native controller support with a controller. I've tried playing some games without native support (here's looking at you, Mass Effect) by using a third party program to map keypresses to the controller, and usually it's a massive failing on my part.

I don't play competitive FPS so it's never really been an issue for me. So I can't get headshots as quickly as my cohorts in Borderlands. It doesn't take away from my enjoyment of the game.
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#524 Apr 10 2013 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
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yeah I find it difficult to enjoy games fully if they don't have controller support. If EQ2 had controller support I'd play it a lot more... and guildwars also didn't get the chance that it would have otherwise if it had it.

It's part of what makes me a SE mmo-er for life.

Edited, Apr 10th 2013 9:41am by Olorinus
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#525 Apr 10 2013 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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TERA has controller support
#526 Apr 10 2013 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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What's using a controller like in TERA? I've heard rumblings they don't work so well (from quality sources like forums and global chat, of course Smiley: rolleyes), but I've never tried myself.
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