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#152 Aug 30 2012 at 1:08 PM Rating: Good

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Got a response from ArenaNet and it was fairly uninformative. Got a mass email response (that's what they called it) telling me to reply with my GW2 account name, etc. I replied that I did not own a GW2, hence the support ticket in the first place, but then they replied that I responded from an email address not associated with the "incident" (I've got three or four email addresses linked to my Gmail), so now I have to resend the ticket.

Whatever, I'll guess someone made a mistake somewhere, or someone used my email address to create a GW2 account, in which case I guess I can always retrieve it later. Smiley: sly

Edit: Now they've created an account for me, lul.

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#153 Aug 30 2012 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent

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I'm on the edge, got a few questions. It may not be fair to ask these so early, they may have been answered, but I'm not digging through a bajillion posts of "made my snowflake pony, looking forward to actually playing."

-- solo-friendly? It's been a while since we've had a "need a party to do anything" game like FFXI/EQ but it still makes me wary. I like the chance to be anti-social when I want.
-- is the story quest a straight-jacket? In SWTOR it hauls you to every corner of every planet, making it impossible to skip a planet (you can skip the non-class quests but you're still running everywhere) and leaving nothing new to be discovered rolling a new character. If I say "I want to see what's on the other side of those mountains" will it prevent me from doing any more personal story until I come back and whack goblins?
-- are respecs free? Are we allowed multiple characters without paying unlike PSO2?

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#154 Aug 30 2012 at 2:00 PM Rating: Excellent

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selebrin wrote:

I'm not digging through a bajillion posts of "made my snowflake pony, looking forward to actually playing."

Well geez, if you're going to be all mean.

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-- solo-friendly? It's been a while since we've had a "need a party to do anything" game like FFXI/EQ but it still makes me wary. I like the chance to be anti-social when I want.

Solo friendly in the open world, but in an odd sort of way: they've simultaneously made cooperation important and eliminated the need to ever speak to anyone. There's no such thing as tagging a mob or competing for nodes or quest items. Anyone who participates in a kill gets xp and their own individual chance at loot. Any node that shows up on your map will be there for you even if someone else gets there before you. Also anyone can rez anyone (and you get a little xp for it). So during dynamic events or just while questing, everyone is pretty cooperative and if someone comes along while you're in a fight, they'll stop and fight too. And yet, there is no need to group for any of it, since you all get xp anyway. So, no chit chat.

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- is the story quest a straight-jacket? In SWTOR it hauls you to every corner of every planet, making it impossible to skip a planet (you can skip the non-class quests but you're still running everywhere) and leaving nothing new to be discovered rolling a new character. If I say "I want to see what's on the other side of those mountains" will it prevent me from doing any more personal story until I come back and whack goblins?

Story quests are their own separate thing, independent of exploration or any other activity, and entirely optional. My husband finds them annoying so doesn't do them at all and he's leveling just fine. I like them personally because I dig the lore and all that, and the rewards are often nice. Travel is not really an issue since there are portals everywhere for cheap.

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-- are respecs free? Are we allowed multiple characters without paying unlike PSO2?

Respecs are not free. I don't think they're very expensive, but I have no experience since all my characters are still low level. You have 5 character slots, which is enough to play every race but not every profession. You can expand up to 8, I believe, via the cash shop.

Edit: I should also note about respecs though - you only have to respec if you want to change the number of points you have in a trait line. Each trait line has major traits which you pick from a list - those can be swapped any time for free out of combat.

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#155 Aug 30 2012 at 2:03 PM Rating: Good

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Very solo-friendly. I haven't actually engaged in any group content yet. Well I suppose that depends on how you define it. See, in GW2, you don't ever "tag" mobs. If you help kill a mob, you'll get full exp for it, and each player has a separate loot table/chance. So there's no node stealing, no mob stealing, etc. So you could actually finish quests just by running around and assisting players in killing what they've already grabbed.

There are also world events where a temporary quest will appear and players from all over will swarm it. You'll get ranked (bronze through gold) when the quest is finished, but I'm not sure how that's tabulated. I'm thinking it has to do with the amount of time you spend (whether you arrive near the end, or early on) and how much you contribute. I also don't think they force anyone down to silver or bronze just to maintain a curve. This is essentially group content, but with no real need to coordinate or actually group up.

And quests themselves are generally such that you can accomplish them in various ways. Like they'll give you a list of objectives and you can mix in all of them or just do one until you fill the completion gauge. Events are a lot more focused, like retrieving items or downing waves of enemies, escorting an NPC, downing a boss, etc.

You get a significant bonus to your guild influence rewards for doing them while grouped with guildies though. So very solo friendly, but with a decent enough incentive to team up.

2. Nope. You'll get a story quest every 1-2 levels, and they definitely aren't designed to help you explore. They incentivized that through map completion and skill point nodes.

3. Well, you only "spec" by picking your traits. I honestly have no clue if they can be reselected for free or not, but their relatively minor compared to your weapon skills, which you get from your 1-2 equipped weapons, and your utility skills, which you can switch out whenever you are OOC. Also, most classes get to equip two weapon sets for in-combat switching.

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#156 Aug 30 2012 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good

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Okay, I think that's the information I expected. Extra money in the budget this month, off to download the game and make a snowflake pony.

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#157 Aug 30 2012 at 3:12 PM Rating: Good

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Do you know what's better than a snowflake pony?

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#158 Aug 30 2012 at 9:15 PM Rating: Good

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Okay, I just helped a woman catch a jackalope in order to hunt a yeti, and then played some drunken beer keg hockey. 60 bucks well spent even if the rest of the game is a giant goatse.

I love the vistas compared to SWTOR's datacrons. They're on the map, completely optional, and absolutely beautiful.

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#159 Aug 30 2012 at 10:32 PM Rating: Good

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Yeah, I hated the datacrons. They were ridiculously annoying to find.

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Okay, I just helped a woman catch a jackalope in order to hunt a yeti, and then played some drunken beer keg hockey. 60 bucks well spent even if the rest of the game is a giant goatse.

People either seem to really love the Norn starting area, or really hate it.

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#161 Aug 31 2012 at 5:52 AM Rating: Good

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I didn't mind the TOR datacrons. What I minded was that they didn't bind to your account. And a few of them were mired by annoying jumps/walls that made getting them a pain. But the puzzle aspect was kinda neat. I do agree they should have been on the map, though.

I'm withholding judgement on the Norn area. I don't want the amount of time I've spent with Skyrim in the past year to color things for me. I'm not that interested in the race in general, so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

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#162 Aug 31 2012 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good

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I thought I would hate the viewpoints as well and now I love them. In fact I have completed all 3 zones I have been in in the human area. There are all kinds of interesting nooks and stuff to explore. I found myself slowing down just to appreciate how well done an area was. Plus when you complete a non city zone you get some snazy xp and bonus items.

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#163 Aug 31 2012 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good

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If you see a named NPC, try talking to them. Some will give you some color for the area, and some will even have chances for you to gain charm/aggression/dignity points.

Btw, if anyone didn't know, you can see your personality levels in your Hero screen--mouse-over your profession icon.

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I like the Vistas because the reward for 100% a zone is enough to give incentive to do so without being such that it's mandatory on subsequent characters. In TOR, Datacrons were a cool idea, but the cumulative bonus they provided made them feel like too much of a necessity. In the end, they felt too much like grinding out something you had to have instead of a neat reward for exploring.

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What's with all you people not playing with TINFS?

I just went with where the people I converse with regularly went. Feel free to add me as a friend, though. I don't know if guesting is in yet, but you should be able to do everything with cross-server buddies except WvW, IIRC.

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Yeah, I've been representing the ZAM guild pretty much 100% of the time. My guild from WoW has enough hard core players that it doesn't need me in terms of points and stuff. Our guild obviously does lol.

Right now the main problem I'm having is trying to figure out which character I want to play as my main. I'm getting frustrated with the Elementalist because it seems overly complicated. So I want to try something a bit easier first, while I get the hang of the game. And hopefully something a bit less squishy. So I'm thinking I'll probably focus on my Engineer or Necromancer for a while.

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I'm really liking Guardian. I've settled into sword & torch on one set, with sword & shield as my offset.

I've been ******* around on Warrior, too, since it feels more productive to level that while mining copper than it does going on my mid-30's Guardian to lower-level areas to do so.

I tried WvW (I do enjoy the vocalization of it as 'wub wub' that I've heard people using), and I can see where it'll be fun. I was getting just smashed to bits far too often for it to remain fun at the time, so I stopped 'til I figure out a better build for it. I think I played for around two hours and only got one token out of it, so I'm obviously not doing anything right. I then tried to go off and get some Vistas, Skill Points, and PoI, but would consistently get destroyed anytime I strayed.

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#167 Aug 31 2012 at 2:20 PM Rating: Good

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They really need to let you converse with the guilds you aren't representing though. I spend most of my time representing the Zam guild (because yeah, we need it), but I joined another social guild. But I only pop over there if the Zam guild is empty and I'm not doing something that would give us influence, which isn't much time.

It really wouldn't be hard to let us chat with them. I don't see any good reason it would be prohibited.

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Might be tricky to implement though. As it stands now, it's like with any other MMO, you just type /g and can talk in guild chat. How would they make it so you can choose which guild to talk to? I agree it'd be a neat feature, but it might be hard to get set up.

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#169 Aug 31 2012 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good

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I don't think it would be that hard. Make an ordered list of the guilds a player is in, and cap the number of guilds at 9. Or at least the number you can place on the list at 9.

/g automatically chats to the guild you are representing.

/1-/9 each chat with that guild on the list (one of which will be the one you represent).

You can toggle chat on and off in the guild pane.

They've already coded in the on/off system in the represent option, so that won't be hard. Hell, it's probably more of a "hide" option than anything else.

I doubt it would be hard to implement at all, tbh. They probably already use an ordered system for guilds internally, just to organize them in their own files/the guild pane. I bet they even use it with the represent system to pick which of the guilds you belong to doesn't get filtered.

It should actually be really easy to implement, because they are just chat channels. They don't have to deal with any of the other aspects of a guild, like influence, etc. That's build into representing. Those channels already exist, all they need is an interface to let players toggle them, rather than doing so automatically.

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#170 Sep 02 2012 at 12:35 PM Rating: Excellent

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This game is totally Skyrimming me.

So I decide to level my alt Ranger so I can gather more t1 mats for huntsman and leather working on my thief. Simple enough right. Just mostly ignore stuff and try to focus on gathering mats. Wait there's an event. I'll just do that real quick. Hey a view point! Hop Hop Hop. Oh a skill point. Pew Pew Pew. Oh there is some copper. I should really tame an aquatic pet. Scour the entire watery area of Sylvari starting zone.... no aquatic pets. Wait WTF was I doing again?

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#171 Sep 02 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good

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Well, I got the game and rolled a female Asura Guardian, because cute, tiny, womenz who bring the hurt are awesome. I played a bit and it didn't grab me, it reminded me too much of my Guild Wars (1) experience - search around for a quest giver, finally find a quest, search around for quest MoBs or quest area, get killed by MoBs way higher than me while I search around, rinse and repeat.

Friday night I decided to give it another go and rolled a Human Thief. Oh! Nice! Much more intuitive area. Now the Asura area makes sense to me also. Meanwhile, rolled a Norn Warrior and a Sylvari Ranger (I'm assuming everyone has one of these, or will - they are all over the place). Now, I feel like Shojindo, the game is definitely Skyrimming me -

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This game is totally Skyrimming me.

So I decide to level my alt Ranger so I can gather more t1 mats for huntsman and leather working on my thief. Simple enough right. Just mostly ignore stuff and try to focus on gathering mats. Wait there's an event. I'll just do that real quick. Hey a view point! Hop Hop Hop. Oh a skill point. Pew Pew Pew. Oh there is some copper. I should really tame an aquatic pet. Scour the entire watery area of Sylvari starting zone.... no aquatic pets. Wait WTF was I doing again?

Yeah, me too. By the time I rolled my Norn Warrior I didn't even look for quests, just ran around gathering, joining events, and if I wandered into a quest area and the quest looked interesting I did it. Doing this, I found that for the first time (four different areas) I've competed everything in the original area (not sure if I'm about to leave the starting area yet, I've never gotten that far yet!).

And naming. Wow, all the names I want are taken. I guess it's because they have to have unique names for everyone since you can cross servers and group? Or am I just having bad luck?

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#172 Sep 02 2012 at 3:32 PM Rating: Good

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I picked up a copy at the store today. Couldn't do digital copies since they are "Sold Out" (Go figure...).

Installation is going pretty slow for me right now. It'll be done sometime tonight I hope. Smiley: frown

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Man, don'cha hate when your crafting ends a few points shy of the next tier? Not sure whether to go kill weenies and hope for drops or keep on where I am and hope for goodies. I'm really getting blocked on the blues off critters rather than the other mats. Which is good, since I can't get gathering nodes for leatherworking. Guess I'm fighting skinless bears most of the time.

For other Rangers looking for pets in the area rather than specific ones, Karija on SomethingAwful took all the info and turned it around to be useful.

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Asura:

Rata Sum (Asura Main City)
Siamoth: Tark Hall - Right next to the stairs
Pink Moa: Frick Hall
Red Jellyfish: That big lake by the ship dock
Metrica Province
Jungle Spider: Greyfern Expanses
Marsh Drake: Akk Wilds
Jaguar: Akk Wilds
Brisban Wildlands (15-25)
Siamoth: Venlin Vale
Fern Hound: Zinder Slope
Jungle Spider: Hidden Lake
Black Bear: Brilitine Swath
Murrelow: Brilitine Swatch - in the rat cave

Charr

Black Citadel (Charr Main City)
Lashtail Devourer: Ruins of Rin
Whiptail Devourer: Ligacus Notos
Plains of Ashford (1-15)
Hyena: Gunbreach Hills, Victor's Presidium
Red Moa: Agnos Gorge, Phasmatis Corridor
Black Bear: Charr's Triumph
Whiptail Devourer: Cadem Forest, Devourer's Mouth
Diessa Plateau (15-25)
Warthog: The Blasted Moors, Nemus Groves
Lashtail Devourer: Arcovian Foothills, Reaper's Corridor

Human

Divinity Reach (Human Main City)
Pig: Farshore Ward
Krytan Drakehound: Rurikton
Lions Arch (Nexus hub)
Krytan Drakehound: Western Ward
Armor Fish: The Bilge - Second level. Take the entrance under the right dock by Trader's Forum.
Blue Jellyfish: Sanctum Harbor
Pig: Next to karma vendor north of Farshore Ward.
Queensdale (1-15)
Boar: The Heartwoods in between township of Claypool and that butte
Pig: Township of Claypool
Krytan Drakehound: Shire of Beetletun
Forest Spider: Queen's Forest - south of the heart hunting lodge on the hill between the two buildings.
River Drake: Western Divinity Dam
Kessex Hills (15-25):
Eagle: Earthlord's Gap, Sojourner's Way
Hawk: Middle of Kessex haven waypoint, quarryside, gap waypoint and Barnby's watch
Brown Bear: Cereboth Canyon, Halacon Cataract
Shark: Viathan's Arm, Viathan Lake on the east side of the lake in the northern corner.
Gendarren Fields (25-35)
Eagle: Overlook Caverns
Pig: Cornucopian Fields
Forest Spider: Exact location unknown - will search
Brown Bear: Talajian Piedmont
River Drake: Lake Bounty, Witherflank River

Norn

Hoelbrak (Norn Main City)
Raven: Raven Lodge, front entrance to your left under the trees
Alpine Wolf: Wolf Lodge, on the west side of the lodge
Polar Bear: Lake Mourn
Snow Leopard: Peeta's Gate - north east from waypoint
Wayfarer Foothills (1-15)
Raven: Snowlord's Gate
Alpine Wolf: Outcast's Cleft
White Moa: Exact location unknown - will search
Arctodus: Frusenfell Creek, Molevechia
Brown Bear: Borealis Forest
Ice Drake: Darkriven Bluffs, Outcast's Cleft, Taigan Groves
Snow Leopard: Borealis Forest
Snowden Drifts (15-25)
Owl: Song of the Final Exile, Valslake, Owl's Abattoir
White Moa: Hrothgar's Pass, Vitpeln Hills by the Torstvedt Homestead Waypoint
Ice Drake: Valslake - directly east of the Valslake Waypoint
Lynx: Hrothgar's Pass
Lornar's Pass (25-35)
Raven: Northeast of Refuge Peak waypoint
Alpine Wolf: East of the Godspurs waypoint
White Moa: Winterthaw Snowfield
Cave Spider: Windy Cave
Arctodus: Nentory Valley, next to Ravenbeak Shrine POI"
Snow Leopard: Highfirn Passage
Ice Drake: False Lake, just north of Dwarves Gloaming POI

Sylvari

The Grove (Sylvari Main City)
Fern Hound: "Scholar's Terrace, Reckoner's Terrace"
Pink Moa: Ronan's Bower
Caledon Forest (1-15)
Fern Hound: Trader's Green
Pink Moa: "Ventry Bay, Treemarch Estuary"
Jungle Spider: Morgan's Spiral
Marsh Drake: Wychmire Swamp
Black Bear: Sandycove Beach
Fields of Ruin (30-40)
Hyena: "Southern end of Hunter's Gorge, next to the Renown heart"
Harathi Hinterlands (35-45)
River Drake: Western end of Guardian Lake
Bloodtide Coast (45-55)
Blue Moa: Stormbluff Isle, Flooded Castavall: Very easy to get to. Got this as a level 35. No mobs in the way.
Iron Marches (50-60)
Forest Spider: Hellion Forest
Carrion Devourer: Champion Shield

WvW:
Wolf: Eternal Battlegrounds - East Side map by Umberglade Camp
Marsh Drake: Eternal Battlegrounds - north of Jerrifer's Slough right under the bridge before the tower.
Salamander Drake: Eternal Battlegrounds - River near spawn point
Jaguar: Eternal Battlegrounds Darkrait Inlet - Just east
SPECIAL:
Black Moa: 15 points in HoM
]Rainbow Jellyfish]: 20 points in HoM
White Raven: 25 points in HoM
Black Widow Spider: 30 points in HoM
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#174 Sep 02 2012 at 4:04 PM Rating: Good

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cynyck wrote:

And naming. Wow, all the names I want are taken. I guess it's because they have to have unique names for everyone since you can cross servers and group? Or am I just having bad luck?

You can put spaces in names... from the wiki:

The last step is to choose a name for your character, which can include from 3 to 19 characters. Names must be composed entirely of letters and (optional) spaces; names always use title case (i.e. the first letter of each word is capitalized) and must begin with a letter.

For non-space characters, the English versions of the game allow the standard 26 letters of the alphabet along with accented letters such as Ã and Ã¨. The German version also allows the usage of Ã„, Ã– and Ãœ; [verification requested] the requirements for other languages are currently unknown.

...so that should help you a little bit (first / last names) . When I made my sylvari her name is actually "Dyadem of the Trees" ...quite long but definitely unique.

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#175 Sep 02 2012 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good

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Well, I'm in. Made a Asura Engineer on Crystal Desert named Pagocek.

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