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#1 Jun 12 2012 at 12:08 PM Rating: Sub-Default
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I just tried to post the following on the GW2 facebook page 3 time and it was promptly deleted:

"Is that effect where you die even after defeating a mob and your health has been restored to 100% going to be part of the game? The feature is going to **** off a lot of players and will cause many, including myself, to quite the game. I want to know before the game goes live so I can seek a refund. I'll not play a game with features with no reason to be in the game other than to aggravate the paying customers. If you die in a fight it's one thing, if you nearly die and recover and win that's another, but when you recover and win and restore your health then die, that's crap."

Clearly GW2 only wants praise on their FB page as this valid complaint about a questionable game feature is repeatedly deleted before anyone has a chance to respond.

If this is any indication of how GW2 operates, I want out.
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So get out. Facebook is a promotional medium for businesses and I don't blame them for trying to keep the messages there positive.

Even having never played it, I'm willing to bet that the game beta has a feedback and bug reporting tool besides ******** on Facebook.
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#3 Jun 12 2012 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
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I was told by the GW2 support team to post it there. Clearly they are censoring posts and this creates a deceptive view of the game for potential players.
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If the support team's honest response to bug reports is "Post it on Facebook", the game has bigger issues anyway. Go play Farmville.
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Clearly they are censoring posts and this creates a deceptive view of the game for potential players.

I'm not sure what made you think Facebook was an open medium for communication.
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#6rickcarufel, Posted: Jun 12 2012 at 12:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So are you the resident trolls who ridicules every comment? Runs people off and kills discussions?
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So are you the resident troll who ridicules every comment?


No, he's not. Would you like me to get him for you?
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#10 Jun 12 2012 at 1:22 PM Rating: Excellent
I have a dream.

A dream that one day a new MMO will come out and the forums will be monitored heavily. These forums will not turn into a endless sea of spoiled entitled whiners threatening the developers to change something or they quit.

These forums will not be infested with users who write at a 2nd grade education level. Yet think they know how a multimillion dollar game publisher should design their games.

Trolls will be be ignored and banished to a place where no F's were given that day.

Constructive well though out criticism will be written in a way that does not offend yet conveys potential good ideas for the future of the game and community.

Dev's may even respond to this feedback from time to time, showing glimpses into future updates.

The regulars here at ZAM often post in such a manner. Which gives us some small hope for the future of humanity.



Edited, Jun 12th 2012 12:23pm by Shojindo
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#11 Jun 12 2012 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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rickcarufel wrote:
So are you the resident trolls who ridicules every comment? Runs people off and kills discussions?

We're discussing proper bug reporting and the function of Facebook as a business communication medium.

Your "report" is a snarky and childish remark ("Will this feature be in the game?") rather than constructive ("Bug: When X happens, Y occurs"). Then when they understandably wipe your little tantrum off their page, you come here to cry about how you're being repressed and censored. But that didn't work so now everyone's a troll. Maybe you can go on Reddit and complain about how mean the people on Zam are for not caring about how mean the people on Facebook are. I'll monitor Fark for your posts about Reddit to see how that works out.

Edited, Jun 12th 2012 2:35pm by Jophiel
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#12 Jun 12 2012 at 1:39 PM Rating: Good
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Jophiel wrote:
rickcarufel wrote:
So are you the resident trolls who ridicules every comment? Runs people off and kills discussions?

We're discussing proper bug reporting and the function of Facebook as a business communication medium.

Your "report" is a snarky and childish remark ("Will this feature be in the game?") rather than constructive ("Bug: When X happens, Y occurs"). Then when they understandably wipe your little tantrum off their page, you come here to cry about how you're being repressed and censored. But that didn't work so now everyone's a troll. Maybe you can go on Reddit and complain about how mean the people on Zam are for not caring about how mean the people on Facebook are. I'll monitor Fark for your posts about Reddit to see how that works out.
Since you're here and the OP is just whining, how did working on re-raising your honor work out? Did you end up having to restart?
#13rickcarufel, Posted: Jun 12 2012 at 1:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "We're discussing proper bug reporting and the function of Facebook as a business communication medium."
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Nah, I just got into a lot of fights and let a lot of nobles go free after beating them. I think it's around 90-100 now but I haven't played for about a week because I got a bug to replay Stalker: SoC. I have a very small kingdom of maybe three holdings and, although people largely leave me alone, it's a bit of a pain to raise my "right to rule". So far the best way has been to get into wars and make them sue for peace which is good for about +15 or +20 points but it's easier said than done -- again, only have three holdings.
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No we;'re not.

Well, I was, But I'm less whiny.

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I've been a beta tester since mmorpgs were invented...

Started with Everquest in 1999. Does this conclude the ***** measuring portion of the show?

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I suggest you move out of your parents basements and get a life. 25k posts, my god, these forums must be your entire life. Sad and Pathetic.

Joph's Law!! Smiley: laugh
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#16 Jun 12 2012 at 1:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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All you smarmy trolls who have nothing to do but wait for a new post to pounce, the level of messages posted by you people says it all, I suggest you move out of your parents basements and get a life. 25k posts, my god, these forums must be your entire life. Sad and Pathetic.
It helps your case, and your ***** size, to post grade school cliches. Smiley: schooled
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#17 Jun 12 2012 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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Nah, I just got into a lot of fights and let a lot of nobles go free after beating them. I think it's around 90-100 now but I haven't played for about a week because I got a bug to replay Stalker: SoC. I have a very small kingdom of maybe three holdings and, although people largely leave me alone, it's a bit of a pain to raise my "right to rule". So far the best way has been to get into wars and make them sue for peace which is good for about +15 or +20 points but it's easier said than done -- again, only have three holdings.
Did you ever woo and run off with a noble's daughter? I think that does some serious boost for your RtR.
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Unfortunately I started as a chick and I've no desire to play second fiddle to some nobleman!
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This thread delivers. Smiley: nod
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Unfortunately I started as a chick and I've no desire to play second fiddle to some nobleman!
Ah, that's right. I remember you mentioning that.

Hrm...I wonder if instead of worrying about honor, you can just capture every single enemy noble and put them in a prison tower until there's nothing standing between you and your conquest.
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#22 Jun 12 2012 at 2:43 PM Rating: Excellent
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What issue are you even whining about?

I've played in both beta weekends and the stress test event and never "die[d] even after defeating a mob and your health has been restored to 100%".

Sounds like a bug, and you weren't paying attention enough to notice it was a bug.

Or, it sounds like you weren't paying attention and something else killed you. It's not uncommon for attacks from certain mobs, especially veteran/champion, to one shot you.

There is no specific feature in Guild Wars 2 that just kills you randomly.
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I was going to respond to this with my usual level of hostility, but apparently Joph was enough to scare the fellow off. Oh well, next time.
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#25 Jun 14 2012 at 8:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Help, help, I'm bein' repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!

There is plenty of negative input allowed. Go have a look at the mesmer forum and you'll see what I mean. That's over at same forums where you should have gone in the first place, by the way. There are proper places for bug reports. Facebook is not one of them. Yeah, I get that you say you were sent to FB by support, but I suspect you, er, misunderstood. You seem like you might be a chronic misunderstander.

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There is no specific feature in Guild Wars 2 that just kills you randomly.


Needs moar Fel Reaver!

Edited, Jun 14th 2012 10:17am by teacake
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My favorite bit of Facebook censorship is when a politician says something stupid, everyone floods his FB page, and some poor intern has to scrub all the mud off the page... but usually not before the original posters get a couple pages of screenshots of the shrieking and angry comments as proof that the censorship is occurring.

Way more fun than ******** via an email and getting a form email back.

Not quite as fun as ******** on the phone, where the intern has no choice but to listen to you as long as you don't give them a valid reason to hang up.
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#27 Jun 14 2012 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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NeithanTheWronged wrote:

There is no specific feature in Guild Wars 2 that just kills you randomly.


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Not quite as fun as ******** on the phone, where the intern has no choice but to listen to you as long as you don't give them a valid reason to hang up.


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There is no specific feature in Guild Wars 2 that just kills you randomly.
Needs moar Fel Reaver! Death Touch

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rickcarufel wrote:
I've been a beta tester since mmorpgs were invented and nothing ****** off a player more than to die for no apparent reason after winning a battle.


So, it's a bug. Report it. There's no need to threaten developers because of a bug. Bugs happen. Having been a beta tester since MMORPGs were invented, I'm sure you're aware of that.

I'm fairly certain a bug where you die after winning a fight is going to be fixed before launch. Otherwise it's going to be fixed soon after launch. What do you think happens if they don't? Massive drama. Exactly, so obviously they will.

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All you smarmy trolls who have nothing to do but wait for a new post to pounce, the level of messages posted by you people says it all, I suggest you move out of your parents basements and get a life. 25k posts, my god, these forums must be your entire life. Sad and Pathetic.


And now you're being an idiot.

Oh, great, he left. Wish I'd scrolled down a bit before replying. Smiley: facepalm

Edited, Jun 16th 2012 9:24pm by Mazra
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Oh, great, he left. Wish I'd scrolled down a bit before replying. Smiley: facepalm


Nonsense, this thread needs you. Can I get you a beer?
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