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#1 Apr 20 2012 at 7:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Open beta weekend from 12 PST today through 10 AM PST on Monday.

You'll only have access to the first part of the game, but you can take any of the classes up to level 13.

So yeah.
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#2 Apr 20 2012 at 8:26 AM Rating: Good
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On a side note it is also the TERA open beta weekend so I got two games to dink around with. Smiley: glare At least I figured out the problem with my super slow download. Sub 100 kb sucks hard.
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#3 Apr 20 2012 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
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#4 Apr 20 2012 at 8:31 AM Rating: Good
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Guess I'm playing Tera this weekend, too. Smiley: lol
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#5 Apr 20 2012 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
Usurpers!

Should be a fun weekend fo Sho. Smiley: nod
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#6 Apr 20 2012 at 11:53 AM Rating: Good
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is there a server folks will be on? I might check it out myself.
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#7 Apr 20 2012 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Since I've held off purchasing my new PC until closer to the actual D3 launch, I am unable to participate. I expect those of you who do to tell us what you can.
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#8 Apr 20 2012 at 3:56 PM Rating: Good
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Since I've held off purchasing my new PC until closer to the actual D3 launch, I am unable to participate. I expect those of you who do to tell us what you can.


You might be able to run it on whatever you have--it's worth checking out, right?

You won't be able to log in right now anyway, so you can always download it for later.
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#9 Apr 20 2012 at 10:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Played through the beta and just finished it. I explored all map areas and killed every living thing and it only took about two hours. I suppose I could try out the other classes, but it's really just a different animation for the same results, so I don't think I'll bother. First impressions, this game feels more like Diablo 2.5 than a full on sequel. Game mechanics have barely changed (the way they handle skills feels like a step backwards), the graphics, while better than D2 are definitely dated. Maybe it was all the hype, but I was expecting more.
#10 Apr 21 2012 at 7:39 AM Rating: Good
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(the way they handle skills feels like a step backwards),


I posted a whole rant on that (plus the way they changed stats) in the Bored Druid Thread, so I'll spare the rest of you. But yeah, I'm very, very unhappy with the changes they made there.

For now I'm holding out hope that the higher level content will be a great deal more difficult, because I was mostly just bored and easily dispensing everything in 3 hits.
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#11 Apr 21 2012 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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The big issue I have at hand is how much could they change the whole dungeon crawler gamestyle and have it still be a dungeon crawler? Having never played any Diablo game before this and only played Champions of Norrath for the PS2 and Dark Alliance 2 for the Xbox when it comes to dungeon crawlers I can say that I enjoy Diablo 3. It is simple enough that you don't feel overwhelmed when you are new to it but still not simple enough that you can die if you do stupid stuff (almost died in the pillar room before I realized that my health was almost gone).

Also I remember a blue post stating that the current difficulty setting in the beta is somewhere along the lines of easy. I don't have the actual blue post to link but I recall something along those lines.
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#12 Apr 21 2012 at 10:16 AM Rating: Decent
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Kastigir wrote:
Since I've held off purchasing my new PC until closer to the actual D3 launch, I am unable to participate. I expect those of you who do to tell us what you can.


You might be able to run it on whatever you have--it's worth checking out, right?

You won't be able to log in right now anyway, so you can always download it for later.

Not a chance, I'm still running a single core.
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#13 Apr 21 2012 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Kastigir wrote:
Since I've held off purchasing my new PC until closer to the actual D3 launch, I am unable to participate. I expect those of you who do to tell us what you can.


You might be able to run it on whatever you have--it's worth checking out, right?

You won't be able to log in right now anyway, so you can always download it for later.

Not a chance, I'm still running a single core.


...wow.
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#14 Apr 21 2012 at 3:39 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, what Bliz needed was more interactive/tactical encounters. It feels like instead they gave us a very tuned item quest.
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#15 Apr 22 2012 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
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Witch Doctor is OP.
#16 Apr 22 2012 at 11:45 AM Rating: Good
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Really? I felt it was, by a huge margin, the weakest of the classes. Everything else just ripped through everything. Witch Doctor was slow, and had a much higher percentage of "meh" abilities.
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#17 Apr 22 2012 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I've played through as the Monk and Wizard so far and am liking it. Its normal difficulty which means its going to be easy, and it will get harder. The monk was pretty fun, and tankish, while the wizard was more kite stuff, though that was due to not getting a good weapon till after I killed the SK.

I want to play through as the demon hunter or barb next. I played a bone spear necro in d2, but the witch doctor just doesnt appeal to me at all.
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#18 Apr 22 2012 at 2:29 PM Rating: Good
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Demon Hunter is, imo, significantly better than the other classes in terms of quality. Monk, Wizard and Barbarian just involve blasting your way through mobs--every fight was easily won that way for me, with little to no heed paid to my safety. Wizard was powerful enough to mow down nearly everything that came his way, and Frost Nova was more than sufficient to deal with the rest. Monk took down the gold mobs easily just spamming his spirit or extended punch move. Barbarian is just typical hack n' slash in general.

But Demon Hunter required strategy and finesse. You needed to adapt to the situation, rather than just force your strategy on the game. I actually switched skills in the middle of battle once, as I transitioned from AoE to boss kiting.

A big part of this, though, is that the other classes are just too strong. A significant nerf to their default damage might be enough to salvage the strategy aspect of the game that's missing. Unless they are balanced for the higher difficulties, in which case DH actually needs a buff.

Witch Hunter also felt way weaker to me, because it was in some weird midpoint between blasting through and using strategy, except that its spells seemed much worse to me. Jar of Spiders (*shudder*) ultimately seemed useless in every situation I tried it with (and I can only imagine it isn't really meant to be used, ever, unglyphed). That bat storm was powerful, but in just about every situation it seemed way better to never let an enemy get that close, especially since you can't easily spec for armor without seriously compromising your damage.
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#19 Apr 22 2012 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
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Seems kind of strange to complain about a game being too easy when you're not on the highest level. So long as spamming one ability is a bad tactic, it's fine. It's fine if bad tactics work at easy difficulty levels, because these difficulties are geared towards people that are bad.

That said, I have no interest in this game.
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#20 Apr 22 2012 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
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You can't change the solo difficulty, but you can join public games to increase the power of the mobs in relation to the number of players in the world. It lets you simulate higher difficulties (as long as you aren't plowing through WITH the group).
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#21 Apr 22 2012 at 5:20 PM Rating: Good
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Really? I felt it was, by a huge margin, the weakest of the classes. Everything else just ripped through everything. Witch Doctor was slow, and had a much higher percentage of "meh" abilities.


Something tells me you didn't try out the spider-jar skill.

Tons of spiders the size of your face, everywhere, attacking the enemies. They go down fast.
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#22 Apr 22 2012 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
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Really? I felt it was, by a huge margin, the weakest of the classes. Everything else just ripped through everything. Witch Doctor was slow, and had a much higher percentage of "meh" abilities.


Something tells me you didn't try out the spider-jar skill.

Tons of spiders the size of your face, everywhere, attacking the enemies. They go down fast.


I forced myself to try it, and thought it was terrible. And I feel more than justified after looking up the math. It's one of the least efficient DPS skills in the game, apparently, AND faces the issue that it spreads its damage haphazardly through a group of enemies--just as likely to attack the least threatening as the most.

CS summons 4 spiders that do 16% weapon damage as physical damage per hit, and hit twice before dying. They DO come with the added bonus of potentially blocking enemy pathing, but this is also fully capable of preventing another spider from attacking twice. Total potential damage is 128%.

PD hits the enemy for 100% weapon damage as physical damage, plus 40% weapon damage as poison damage over 2 seconds.

So, first we have the fact that PD does more total damage. Then we have the fact that it does 40% of its damage subject to resistances, not armor (which might work for or against it, but gives it a wider breadth of usefulness).

Now consider the fact that PD is capable of taking out weak enemies in a pack by itself, potentially without even depending on any (or both) of the poison tics.

In a group of 5 enemies, the spiders are going to be spreading out damage. This would create a potential issue even IF they did better dps. It also makes them a liability. A PD-user can potentially lock up a kill with each cooldown period, which may or may not be delayed. That decreases the threat the group poses as a whole. Spiders will continue spreading out damage, and potentially not even living up to their optimal damage by failing to land 2 hits if blocked by your zombie dogs or other spiders. There is also a larger cast time lag with the spiders--it takes longer to throw the jar than shoot the dart, and there is additional delay as the spiders spawn and find a target. Leaping spiders helps mitigate some of this, and makes them more likely to land both attacks... Oh yeah, and CS will die to AoE attacks, which maaany stronger opponents have. Like the Skeleton King.

Plus, the PD glyph gives you 3 darts, effectively making it a better AoE skill than the spiders anyway. And it does more damage with one dart... So why the **** would I ever use CS?

They do have utility in glyphed forms. But they are a super weak skill unglyphed.

Searching online tells me that they actually nerfed spiders quite recently, but that the change was almost certainly too drastic, at least where certain glyphs are concerned.

I see zero reason to ever use the spiders. The grasping arms attack does AoE damage and snares, which helps ensure that every Poison Dart you fire outright kills the enemy without even requiring poison. MUCH better strategy in literally every situation I can think of.
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#23 Apr 22 2012 at 6:46 PM Rating: Good
I must have been playing with them before the nerf, because when I was using them it was crazy how fast it was. Plus, I was throwing a large jar out of hammerspace every second and a half, which just looked funny.
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#24 Apr 22 2012 at 6:49 PM Rating: Good
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They can still be very useful, I imagine, with some of those glyphs. But Leaping Spiders and default CS aren't worth using atm.
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#25 Apr 22 2012 at 6:50 PM Rating: Decent
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ITT we take level 9 balance seriously.
#26 Apr 22 2012 at 7:09 PM Rating: Good
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Smiley: dubious

Every ability is balanced using a percentage of weapon damage, which scales fairly evenly as stats increase because it's based on weapon damage (which is balanced accordingly) and a specific class-relative stat. The only thing that changes how OP/UP an ability is comes from the other combinations you have access to.

The problem with this ability is a problem that will apply at every level. The Leaping Spider glyph increases their chance to score 2 hits, and increases their total damage to 19% per hit, which pushes them over PD's unglyphed damage, but leaves all the ability-specific issues behind.

Widowmaker glyph lets them return mana to you (3 per hit, so the spell will return 24. Dunno what it will cost at higher levels). Poison Dart's similar glyph returns slightly more.

Blazing Spiders are the first that actually become a legitimate damaging tool, but even they only do 168% damage (less than Poison Dart with the first glyph by a large margin).

So far, because of this nerf to the base ability, each of these glyphs remain fairly useless across levels.

There are only 2 that might make up for it:

Spider Queen, which does true AoE damage, which might make it useful in AoE situations.
Medusa, which gives it a chance to stun/snare, which makes it useful for utility.

Because of the issues discussed here, yes--it does matter. We aren't talking about something specific to low levels.
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