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#152 Mar 15 2012 at 5:41 PM Rating: Good
I just finished. I won't jump on the OMFGTHISGAMESUCKSNOA! bandwagon just yet. I found the ending confusing as **** for sure, but I have played plenty of great games with worse endings. Was a fun ride all in all.

I'm sure I will play through again and I am having tons of fun with multiplayer. I was at 100% GR and 6400 war assets at the end for what it's worth.
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#153 Mar 15 2012 at 8:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Question for people playing multi-player. What's the point of promoting your character?
#154 Mar 15 2012 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
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Question for people playing multi-player. What's the point of promoting your character?


It will add +75 to your war assets permantly to single player game. It stacks too!

On a side note I am honestly suprised how how much I enjoy the Multiplay in ME3.

Edit: maybe we should start a ME3 multiplayer thread, I'd love to bounce some ideas around with you guys.

Edited, Mar 15th 2012 10:53pm by Devildawgs
#155 Mar 15 2012 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
I'm working on a Salarian Infiltrator in multi now. Wish I could pop a uber sniper rifle, seems like I see so many people with widow variants and I am using the level IV version of the basic one. :(

BUT! Drain energy is uber, loving drain energy in multi. It's the first thing I maxed.

I took a Sentinal to level 20. Nice survival with the holo armor and cool to have some biotic hybrid tricks. Mostly used a shotgun and pistol with him.

As much as I love my Vanguard in single player sometimes I find them a bit annoying in multi. They love to charge right in front of the mob I am about to head shot and eat my shot in the back while cherry picking my kill lol. Then they invariably bite off more than they can chew... hmm should I rez him or hang back here and pop mobs with my sniper rifle?

I will say I have seen some freakin beast vangaurds though in multi. Kind of makes me want to level one next since that was my single player main.
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#156 Mar 15 2012 at 11:42 PM Rating: Good
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I'm working on a Salarian Infiltrator in multi now. Wish I could pop a uber sniper rifle, seems like I see so many people with widow variants and I am using the level IV version of the basic one. :(
I'm stuck using a rank 1 raptor(the fast firing multi-shot one). Would kill for a Black Widow.
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#157 Mar 16 2012 at 12:33 AM Rating: Good
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I haven't gotten any new weapons for my Sentinel's play style. I don't like being in the fray, and I've only gotten shotgun rewards. Kinda annoying.
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#158 Mar 16 2012 at 2:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm working on a Salarian Infiltrator in multi now. Wish I could pop a uber sniper rifle, seems like I see so many people with widow variants and I am using the level IV version of the basic one. :(


I have a black widow but my basic sniper IV does more damage and is lighter so my widow is gathering dust in a corner.

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I will say I have seen some freakin beast vangaurds though in multi. Kind of makes me want to level one next since that was my single player main.


Vanguards are so much fun. I was playing an engineer until I tried a Van. Teleporting yourself all over the place while destroying everything in your path never gets old.

#159 Mar 16 2012 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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I actually would love to try playing a defensive Vanguard (blasphemy, I know). Use your charge ability to keep everything at a distance, and use Snipers and an accurate Assault rifle or SMG.
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#160 Mar 16 2012 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
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In other news, special multiplayer week-end starting today at 5pm pacific.

http://games.ign.com/articles/122/1220968p1.html


Edit: more info here

Edit 2: IGN says it's for PC, 360 and PS3 but they're wrong. The official post from Bioware says it's not available for PS3.

And I was getting all excited Smiley: bah

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#161 Mar 16 2012 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Awesome for me, but I expect to see quite a bit of anger from CE customers.
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#162 Mar 16 2012 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
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Unless I'm reading it wrong, you can only get one pack which will contain one random weapon to use in multiplayer.

The CE got all of them for the single player campaign.
#163 Mar 16 2012 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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I think you are forgetting how little the internet needs to go full rage over something. :P Plus, we don't know what the victory pack will contain.

Of course, their rage will be irrelevant, since they are MP-only weapons, but I've long stopped expecting rationality from the internet.

Also, I bet I get the shotgun.
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#164 Mar 16 2012 at 3:00 PM Rating: Good
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Also, HOLY **** Phantoms spawn when Cerberus attacks? I have yet to see that happen. They are so frickin' hard for my Sentinel to kill in Single Player. They SHOULD be easy, since I have Warp, but they dodge too well.
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#165 Mar 16 2012 at 3:07 PM Rating: Good
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Also, HOLY **** Phantoms spawn when Cerberus attacks? I have yet to see that happen.


I see them all the time. And yeah, they're a pain in the ***.

Landing a headshot on those things when they're constantly flipping around and being a general hard to kill cockroach is pretty annoying.
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#166 Mar 16 2012 at 6:33 PM Rating: Good
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I'm working on a Salarian Infiltrator in multi now. Wish I could pop a uber sniper rifle, seems like I see so many people with widow variants and I am using the level IV version of the basic one. :(


I have a black widow but my basic sniper IV does more damage and is lighter so my widow is gathering dust in a corner.

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I will say I have seen some freakin beast vangaurds though in multi. Kind of makes me want to level one next since that was my single player main.


Vanguards are so much fun. I was playing an engineer until I tried a Van. Teleporting yourself all over the place while destroying everything in your path never gets old.



Ya know, I mentioned the same thing to my coworker and he said the Mantis hits just as hard as the Black Widow for less weight. Maybe I just think it will be great because I have never had one. I did buy the Wraith (Upgraded Spectre Eviscerator -22) in game and loved it. But I just gave the regular Widow to Garrus without thinking too much about it.

Also I need a barrel mod I think.

Edited, Mar 16th 2012 5:35pm by Shojindo
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#167 Mar 16 2012 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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What about the rest of their stats? Capacity and Accuracy being the important ones.
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Same capacity and accuracy but the widow can fire 3 shots, the other just 1.

I did a test run with the widow and I think it might be better overall. When you one-shot almost everything, you don't really notice the damage difference but 3 shots before reloading is quite nice when you need more than 1 shot to finish it. Also I think the widow can fire through enemies and light cover but I didn't witness it myself.

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#169 Mar 16 2012 at 7:57 PM Rating: Good
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3 shots would be more than sufficient to make it the better rifle, imo.
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#170 Mar 16 2012 at 8:02 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I still want it but I appreciate my modest Mantis more now which is nice. Energy Drain to stun then headshot is pretty great.
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#171 Mar 18 2012 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
So you multiplayer peeps get your Silver Reapers clear in yet? I think I cleared it about 3-4 times so hopefully one of those sticks for my bonus pack. I've also been putting in some good work on Brutes at the bronze level.

Got me a level 19 Soldier, Sentinal, and Infiltrator so far. Love my Krogan Soldier, him smash.

Just unlocked Asari Adept from a spectre pack. Gonna go Carnifax + Stasis bubble and pop some heads now. Smiley: sly
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#172 Mar 18 2012 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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I just now cleared silver Reapers. I'm a 16 Human Sentinel, so I was packing on some levels first.

But holy ****--Multiple Brutes plus multiple banshees plus multiple ravagers plus cannibals/husks/marauders is pure sadism on BioWare's part. Though I also gained incredible respect for one Quarian who just beasted their way through that match. Banshee had 1-hit me and another player, and they pretty much carried the other player through a multi-banshee scenario. It was crazy to watch.
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#173 Mar 18 2012 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
I just now cleared silver Reapers. I'm a 16 Human Sentinel, so I was packing on some levels first.

But holy ****--Multiple Brutes plus multiple banshees plus multiple ravagers plus cannibals/husks/marauders is pure sadism on BioWare's part. Though I also gained incredible respect for one Quarian who just beasted their way through that match. Banshee had 1-hit me and another player, and they pretty much carried the other player through a multi-banshee scenario. It was crazy to watch.


NICE! Grats bud. I agree Silver and above is no joke, it gets crazy. I've wiped much more than I have won on silver. I tried gold Reapers once just for kicks. By Wave 2 you got Banshees and Brutes. Wave 3 was just fuggetaboutit. Ravagers cross firing your posistion while Banshee's and Brutes overrun you in a swarm.

I started my second play through of the single player campaign now as well. Going Femshep this time. *Looks at Traynor. How you doin?
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#174 Mar 18 2012 at 2:51 PM Rating: Good
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*Looks at Traynor. How you doin?


I just want to ask Traynor why she feels the need to wear her undergarments in the shower.
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#175 Mar 18 2012 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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Holy...what the? WAVE TWO? That's crazy. I could never clear that.
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I just want to ask Traynor why she feels the need to wear her undergarments in the shower.


That scene was super awkward for me, because it essentially happens right before the first real opportunity to reaffirm your relationship with Kaidan. And it's right after he lets it slip that he still loves Shepard, who subsequently checks out his *** quite obviously.

Making my Shepard play dumb in that scene was so weird. Like, seriously, I had THOUGHT I avoided all flirting options with Traynor, and suddenly she's in my shower, having left the door open...

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>.< This was supposed to be an edit. After posting I realized that the open edit was in the avatar thread. Woops.

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Glad to hear you guys are doing well with the event.

As a second class citizen who can't participate...


I'll just go sulk over there ---------> Smiley: glare
#178 Mar 18 2012 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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It's not available for the PS3? That's so weird...

I wouldn't be surprised if they at least made the victory pack (assuming 1M Brutes die) available. I imagine the difficulty has something to do with their ability to track the player's progress?
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What's ******* me off the most is that there's no explanation from Bioware. We can enable data tracking on PS3 just the same so that's not the issue. All they said is "technical limitation" but that's so vague that it could mean anything. When asked on their forum to be more specific the answer was: sorry we can't say anything.

They already track our data and the weapons you get as a reward are already in the single player game. What is so complex with this event that the PS3 can't handle it? **** you could play coop with PC player in Portal 2. That sounds a lot more technically complex to accomplish than this event yet Valve pulled it off.
#180 Mar 18 2012 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
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I'm guessing it's an issue with Sony, so they aren't allowed to comment further. It may not actually be technical in the technological sense, too. ME3 games on the PS3 are hosted by Sony, so it's up to them to let it work.
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Maybe but I don't see why Sony would be against that. A lot of indie developer even say that the PSN is more open and easier to work with for special promo and other thing than Xbox live.

Unless... They came up with this event at the last minute to deflect the criticism about the ending and couldn't get Sony's approval in time. They can't say anything because they swear this event was planned a long time ago and has nothing to do with the recent outrage. If that's the case then telling the reason for PS3 exclusion would be admitting that they are lying about the planning of the event. Well that's my conspiracy theory. It makes as much sense as saying Sony didn't want the PS3 to be included.
#182 Mar 18 2012 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
I'm inclined to say it's a technical issue. PS has always been weird to program for, and I am saying that as a happy PS3 owner. I'm sure this is not the last multiplayer event they will do, and I am also sure they will work it out soon.

That said I feel your pain Feelz.
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#183 Mar 18 2012 at 9:44 PM Rating: Good
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Every multiplayer event I can remember on the PS3 is one where everyone gets the reward, or no one. If it was something that was patched in, I could see that being a non issue. But this seems more like a remote-access type of thing. That might be outside the realm of what's allowed/possible for the PS3's online features.

This isn't just tracking who clears X, it's tracking who clears X with a subsequent reward to them at a later date, with another reward contingent on some Y being cleared as well.

Not saying it's definitely this, of course. I have no clue. Just putting it out there that it could be more annoying for the developer to do, given the way the system is set up. Because this isn't a universal patch, or something players choose individually. This is affecting the game of specific players, rather than the pack.
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#185 Mar 18 2012 at 10:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Whatever the problem is, it would be nice if they could at least tell us what it is. If for example the data tracking for PS3 only tracks single player stats and can't track kill count for multiplayer then just say it but no Bioware doesn't want to say anything.

Might be I'm reading too much into this but the fact they don't want to address the issue at all just makes it seems like they are trying to hide some shortcomings on their part. Why would they take all the criticism from their PS3 fanbase if the problem is not on their end?

Anyway it doesn't really matter, the event is over and I'm still having fun with the multiplayer. I hope you guys killed enough brute to get the victory package and maybe next time I'll be able to help.
#186 Mar 18 2012 at 10:55 PM Rating: Good
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Maybe the shortcoming is on their part, but I think you need to remember that they don't WANT to deny any group access to the event, as that doesn't look good for them. I doubt they chose to do so willingly.
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That's exactly my point. By refusing to give any explanation, it makes them look bad even if it's not their fault. If the problem is with the PSN or the PS3 itself, they could just say it and people would ***** at Sony instead of Bioware. That they decided to take all the criticism makes me think that they are to blame. Why would they willingly damage their reputation to protect Sony?
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I think you are determined to blame them. Sometimes "we can't say anything" means "we can't say anything."

For all we know, the only reason they can't do it is because Sony is doing some infrastructure work that makes it impossible, but wouldn't want that getting out because of their security issues last year. Or maybe BioWare simply isn't allowed to talk about what is or is not possible with regards to Sony's online systems. Everyone negotiates contracts to their own advantage, and Sony has the power in this scenario. They gain nothing by letting a company talk about their limitations, so it wouldn't be at all surprising if BioWare was legally bound to keep mum where those are concerned.

I think you are way too determined to be displeased here. I get it--I would be unhappy too. But forcing yourself to be angry with BioWare over it, when you have literally no proof beyond a feeling, isn't helping anything.
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Well I am displeased and for good reason. We PS3 players paid the same price as everybody else but are not getting the same product. You are right I have no proof beyond a feeling but then I don't have any proof to blame Sony either. Since I gave my money to Bioware for a Bioware game and it's a Bioware event, I'm expecting answers from Bioware.

Maybe you're right that they can't discuss technical details due to contractual obligation but " We deeply apologize to PS3 players for being excluded from this event. Due to circumstances out of our control we cannot at this time extend this promotion to our valued PS3 customers but rest assured we are doing everything we can to resolve the issue. We take this situation very seriously and we'll let you know as soon as we have a solution." sounds a lot better than "can't say anything" and it would not put them in any kind of legal trouble.

You're right about something else, it isn't helping anything so I'm done with the subject. I just needed to complain and it's better here than on the Bioware forums. At least here I get some logical and intelligent counterpoint instead of PS3 sucks!!!! Xbox is the best!!!!!!

Now let's go back to discussing the multiplayer. Anybody managed to finish a gold challenge yet?
Wave 6 (cerberus) I think is the best I did on gold.

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Now let's go back to discussing the multiplayer. Anybody managed to finish a gold challenge yet?
I haven't even managed to get past a silver challenge without being dead at the end yet. Those things are brutal.
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I only managed 3 or 4 silver. It's usually better if you don't get to the extraction point until there's only a few seconds left. I played with some team that just rush to the extraction point as soon as the wave start and then just get swarmed with nowhere to take cover. Just spread out, take cover and clear the banshee/brute/ravager/prime/atlas then run to the extraction point when there's 15-20 seconds left. If you do that you can separate the tougher mob instead of getting a banshee and a couple brute ganging up on your group in a small area.
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I only managed 3 or 4 silver. It's usually better if you don't get to the extraction point until there's only a few seconds left. I played with some team that just rush to the extraction point as soon as the wave start and then just get swarmed with nowhere to take cover. Just spread out, take cover and clear the banshee/brute/ravager/prime/atlas then run to the extraction point when there's 15-20 seconds left. If you do that you can separate the tougher mob instead of getting a banshee and a couple brute ganging up on your group in a small area.

Getting everyone to stay at an initial hold spot sounds like it's about as likely as getting groups to work together to form multi-angled kill zones instead of clustering in a single area to meet enemies.
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Luck of the draw I guess. It's not easy to get a bunch of strangers more interested in getting the higher score than completing the objective to work together but cooperation is essential to succeed at higher difficulty. Sometimes you get lucky and get a good team, most of the time you get 3 other people who run to the extraction and try to take cover behind the same crate.
#194 Mar 19 2012 at 8:09 AM Rating: Good
I agree on trying to spread the mobs out a bit then dashing for the extraction point at the end. On maps that allow it I try to flank the extraction point and set up a cross fire kill zone.

The worst thing is when you get a data hack on Wave 10 silver reapers. That is just painful. On one map we got a 5 minute data hack on wave 10 right on the extraction point. We managed to clear it by the skin of our teeth without realizing it was the extraction point until moments after it said "You liked that? Do it again bishes!" Smiley: oyvey
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Yeah that's probably even worst than extraction. I guess the solution is the same, just give up the time bonus and have 2 people spread out outside the hacking zone to draw the brute and banshee. Also a good time to use some of those rockets.
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I'm generally lowest on the points part, which isn't surprising. I spend most of my time nailing things with biotics, which takes the heat off everyone/debuffs the enemy. Gets me assists (I often end up with the most, I think), but the fewest kills. Maybe I'd be more effective actively killing things. And I'm willing to consider that once I finally get a gun that doesn't hit like a bb gun. I'm using the level 1 Locust. Which, granted, I like a lot--it's accurate at long range, where I prefer to me. But it can barely take down shields, let alone armor. And I'm not willing to so drastically reduce my power recharges by adding another gun.

I wish my Sentinel was a Turian. :(
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If you want to kill with biotic, adept works really well. The pull/reave combo (Drell adept) kills any mob that's not protected by armor. If you only carry a light weapon, you can pretty much spam it and rack up the kills. For the tougher mob you still have your grenades.
#198 Mar 19 2012 at 11:18 AM Rating: Good
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I'm mostly just sticking with my Sentinel for another 4 levels. Maybe spend some time at 20 farming weapons (those do carry over to new characters, right?)

It's my favorite class in the core game because it can counter every defense and has increased survivability. That's only true of the Turian sentinel in ME3's multiplayer, and I haven't unlocked it yet. As much as I like biotic combos, I'm finding them unfeasible with just warp/throw. I can only warp one mob at a time, and pretty much everything is good at dodging it. With it's long CD, that's just not conducive to a play style.

I think I might try out Engineer or Infiltrator next.

In other news, Vanguards seem unbelievably powerful.
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#199 Mar 19 2012 at 11:57 AM Rating: Good
Asari Adept with stasis bubble and a barrel+Scope Carnifax is insane. Bronze just becomes trivial, You can stasis bubble trap 3 mobs at a time and Pop Pop Pop their heads. I have ended matches with 50 headshots and 75 kills lol. +plus biotic kills and Aoe Melee kills. I'm usually first or second with the Asari.

I don't put any points in throw, just Justicar, Fitness, Stasis(Bubble), and remaining points in Warp for setting up detonations and helping to remove sheilds from Banshee's and the like. I have a 190% recharge rate after taking the 30% reduced weight to heavy pistols. I can spam a second bubble before the first bubble wears off and took the talent that sometimes bubble does not cause a cool down so I can toss a warp back to back with stasis. On silver or above it takes more than one shot to behead a mob but it's still quite doable. I even took down an atlas just with biotics and the pistol once when my team was on the other side of the map.

With another biotic of any sort like a vanguard its detonation city. My new favorite class hands down and probably a bit OP. Got her to 18 last night.

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On one silver play through (which we failed at on the last wave before extraction), I watched as a Vanguard took down whole groups of mobs without any help. Charge to that AoE one, charge then AoE, charge then AoE. They were always moving, and always damaging groups of enemies. Was crazy.

For anyone looking for lists of the class/race distinctions, as well as available weapons, the wiki page has already updated a lot of information, with detailed information about the weapons as well as strategy suggestions. Worth checking out for anyone thinking about builds. Doesn't have the N7 gear yet, but that's not surprising. The info is surprisingly detailed, too.
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#201 Mar 19 2012 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, Asari Adepts are kind of OP.
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