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#877 Dec 04 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Good
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#878 Dec 04 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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it still surprises me just how much they crammed into this game.


Yeah I was working on enchanting to 100 on my thief yesterday. So I was just wandering the far out corners of the world for fun while filling soul gems. I found all kinds of neat stuff I had never seen. :)
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#879 Dec 04 2011 at 1:54 PM Rating: Good
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Aurelius wrote:

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There was something kind of neat about being sent to clear out a keep for the Imperials to use as a garrison. I haven't gone back since I cleared it and went back to Solitude to finish the quest but I plan on checking it out tomorrow. I also found a Thalmar embassy with three Thalmar justicars standing outside like they were getting ready to burn the place to the ground. I got jumped by a group of Thalmar justicars earlier on in with this character and found a note on one of them with orders to kill me. These guys didn't attack me on sight so I'll have to go back and see what's going on, but it still surprises me just how much they crammed into this game. Everywhere you go it seems like something is happening.


From what I understood, there's a kind of karma count in game -- if your karma is good, you get assassins sicced on you, and if it is bad you get what you got. Personally, I got jumped by assassins until I joined the Dark Brotherhood.
#880 Dec 04 2011 at 2:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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My slow plan to inundate my roommate with Skyrim memes until he decided to buy the game since I'm too broke to do so has succeeded, and just in time for my vacation. Smiley: grin
#881 Dec 04 2011 at 2:34 PM Rating: Excellent
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Did you take an arrow to your knee to do it? :D
#882 Dec 04 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Aurelius wrote:

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There was something kind of neat about being sent to clear out a keep for the Imperials to use as a garrison. I haven't gone back since I cleared it and went back to Solitude to finish the quest but I plan on checking it out tomorrow. I also found a Thalmar embassy with three Thalmar justicars standing outside like they were getting ready to burn the place to the ground. I got jumped by a group of Thalmar justicars earlier on in with this character and found a note on one of them with orders to kill me. These guys didn't attack me on sight so I'll have to go back and see what's going on, but it still surprises me just how much they crammed into this game. Everywhere you go it seems like something is happening.


From what I understood, there's a kind of karma count in game -- if your karma is good, you get assassins sicced on you, and if it is bad you get what you got. Personally, I got jumped by assassins until I joined the Dark Brotherhood.


On my first character, I got jumped by a lone DB assassin very, very early in. I was actually on my way to Bleak Falls Barrow for the first time and he appeared out of nowhere and tried to do horrible things to me. I've seen console commands to adjust your notoriety but haven't really messed with any of that. I also came across a Bothiah (sp) zealot guy while doing a quest. He actually appeared near the entrance to the dungeon I was sent to and wound up fighting the NPCs there until he turned on me. I thought he was friendly because he was killing baddies until the baddies were dead and he ran up and started smacking me. The little details like that add a lot to the game.
#883 Dec 04 2011 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Did you take an arrow to your knee to do it? :D


A sweetroll to the arrow is far more effective, I hear.
#884 Dec 04 2011 at 5:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Started a new character again today; redoing my thief character, making him a kitty with the conscience of a serial killer. If someone treats me with respect or gives a good quest, they live. If not, they die.

Early on I pickpocketed from Embry in Riverwood. An hour or so later, three hired thugs ganged up on me to take me out; their contract had his name on it. How does a drunk hire thugs? Beats me, but I murdered him for it. I also murdered Sven because I helped the elf and used him as a companion to distract the thugs; figured I should make sure that Sven never gets a chance to redeem himself for the girl they were fighting over. I also killed the lady who owns the mill, because ***** the Stormcloaks and their xenophobia. Killed a farmer on the way to dropping off a cow to a giant (killed the cow too). Now I'm thinking of killing every NPC in Winterhold... because there are only like 5.

It's pretty fun so far. And whoever told me that Sneak levels up insanely fast when you slaughter people was right. On early sneak attacks, I was getting 1-2 sneak levels each time I used it. Without really trying, I'm sitting around level 55 sneak already.
#885 Dec 04 2011 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Is there any way to know if a NPC can't be killed other than trying to kill him? Kinda suck when you sneak into some house to murder everyone in their sleep only to find out the guy is invincible and all the guards in town comes running in. Breaks the immersion a little.
#886 Dec 04 2011 at 6:24 PM Rating: Good
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Generally speaking, those are only npcs central to main quests. Unfortunately, there are only two ways to find out without trying to kill them.

1. If on PC, use the isessential console command. A returned value of 1 means they are.

2. Apparently, if you have the master pickpocket perk "perfect touch," you still won't be able to steal their equipped gear (you'll get an alert to that affect, I think).

3. If you have completed a quest involving an npc, there's a decent chance you can kill them now. Essential status is usually removed when they are no longer needed to keep quest lines operational. At least, that's how it was in Oblivion--I imagine they would have kept it for Skyrim.

4. Look to see if they are on this list. Link contains spoilers.

Otherwise, I'm pretty sure essential npcs always accept a yield.
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#887 Dec 04 2011 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Started a new character again today; redoing my thief character, making him a kitty with the conscience of a serial killer. If someone treats me with respect or gives a good quest, they live. If not, they die.

Early on I pickpocketed from Embry in Riverwood. An hour or so later, three hired thugs ganged up on me to take me out; their contract had his name on it. How does a drunk hire thugs? Beats me, but I murdered him for it. I also murdered Sven because I helped the elf and used him as a companion to distract the thugs; figured I should make sure that Sven never gets a chance to redeem himself for the girl they were fighting over. I also killed the lady who owns the mill, because ***** the Stormcloaks and their xenophobia. Killed a farmer on the way to dropping off a cow to a giant (killed the cow too). Now I'm thinking of killing every NPC in Winterhold... because there are only like 5.

It's pretty fun so far. And whoever told me that Sneak levels up insanely fast when you slaughter people was right. On early sneak attacks, I was getting 1-2 sneak levels each time I used it. Without really trying, I'm sitting around level 55 sneak already.


Ya, fastest way to level sneak is to successfully attack someone from stealth. I can't say whether it matters if you use a melee or a ranged weapon, but I know it works very well with melee weapons. That little feature of game mechanics is at the heart of the exploit that allows you to level sneak to 100 before leaving the intro scenario.

I don't have it in me to play the bad guy for very long. I find it exhausting. Just on a whim today I was looking at the global achievements page for Skyrim on Steam and only 0.5% of players had managed to earn a bounty of 1000 septums in each of the cities. That's some dedicated baddassery right there lol
#888 Dec 04 2011 at 7:32 PM Rating: Good
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Aurelius wrote:
Just on a whim today I was looking at the global achievements page for Skyrim on Steam and only 0.5% of players had managed to earn a bounty of 1000 septums in each of the cities. That's some dedicated baddassery right there lol

I believe that killing a guard automatically puts your bounty at 1000. Or, at least it's happened to me a few times (mostly by accident, but once when a guard gave me the sweetroll line and I just snapped).
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#889 Dec 04 2011 at 7:35 PM Rating: Good
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Transforming into a werewolf in a city will give a bounty of 1000, I think.
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#890 Dec 04 2011 at 9:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Aurelius wrote:
Just on a whim today I was looking at the global achievements page for Skyrim on Steam and only 0.5% of players had managed to earn a bounty of 1000 septums in each of the cities. That's some dedicated baddassery right there lol

I believe that killing a guard automatically puts your bounty at 1000. Or, at least it's happened to me a few times (mostly by accident, but once when a guard gave me the sweetroll line and I just snapped).


I haven't found cause to do anything that would lead to an accidental guard slaughter yet. While doing some of the Imperial quest fights involving friendly and enemy NPCs all over the place, I did on occasion splatter some of my allies, but that's because their uniforms look so damn similar from bow range. In those cases, nothing bad happened to me.

I've thought about shooting guards in the knee whenever they talk about getting shot in the knee, but that would just be mean...

idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
Transforming into a werewolf in a city will give a bounty of 1000, I think.


I heard that transforming into a sweetroll will cause the guards to dogpile you. They've had that quest in their journal for ages, it would seem.
#891 Dec 05 2011 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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I finally decided to stop mucking about and actually work on some storyline quests. I finished off the Mage's College line and found it more than a little boring. It was painfully obvious from the first time you talk to him who the villain would end up being and the final fight was more tedious than fun. He was fairly easy to kill, but having to run back over to the silly floating globe of doom to reset it every minute or so was annoying. The robes would have been a nice reward before I made my armor, now it's just something to toss into storage.

I actually looked ahead at one point (when deciding whether or not to kill Cerino) on the Dark Brotherhood line, so I know what to expect there, which is making me not want to do it. I may go for the Companions. I'm a Werewolf now, so I suppose I should at keep at it.

Edited, Dec 5th 2011 1:25am by Turin
#892 Dec 05 2011 at 2:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll just leave this here.

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#893 Dec 05 2011 at 5:51 AM Rating: Good
Any way to get rid of this stupid horse, Shadowmare?

I fast travel somewhere and it always follows me. Ok, I can appreciate that but when it starts attacking people, that's not cool. Last night, after I fast travel, guards catch up to me to collect a bounty. I draw my sword as I see someone coming at me. Realize it's the guards, put it away and ask the guard to look the other way. Guard seems cool with this and walks away, until my stupid horse jump kicks it in the face. Welcome back bounty.
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#894 Dec 05 2011 at 7:51 AM Rating: Good
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
There are occasions were it makes sense, but for general purposes 1 sec will suffice.


I'd assume it's for cases where you have a high intensity DoT effect?
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#895 Dec 05 2011 at 10:16 AM Rating: Good
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Any way to get rid of this stupid horse, Shadowmare?

I fast travel somewhere and it always follows me. Ok, I can appreciate that but when it starts attacking people, that's not cool. Last night, after I fast travel, guards catch up to me to collect a bounty. I draw my sword as I see someone coming at me. Realize it's the guards, put it away and ask the guard to look the other way. Guard seems cool with this and walks away, until my stupid horse jump kicks it in the face. Welcome back bounty.


He can be killed even though he has pretty fast health regen. I got attacked by two ancient dragons once. Dragons live for one purpose it seems, to hunt and kill my horse. I dispatched the first dragon and was looking around for the second. I saw it's red dot south on my spidy radar so I ran down a hill to get to it just in time to see it tossing my Shadowmere high into the air where he splatted unceremoniously onto some rocks below.

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#896 Dec 05 2011 at 10:33 AM Rating: Good
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The only use I have for that silly thing is distract dragons so can get all stabby with them. Horses are too damn slow and the controls are just odd. It's pretty much always a better idea to walk.
#897 Dec 05 2011 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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I broke out of jail last night for the achievement. I need 9 more and I'm done.

It was a fun thing to do though, walk up to the Jarl of Solitude, punch her in the face, go to jail... I probably did it the cheap way because as the guard walks by you can pick pocket the key, which I did. Then it was a quick sneak to the two chests that have my crap and off I go.

I also reached 100 enchanting and the dual enchant perk last night. My dragonscale boots now have muffled and 40% to sneak on them which makes sneaking so much more fun. I also got a 62 hp and stam regen dragonscale chest. I need to find and kill more dragons since I'm running out of scales to make armor!
#898 Dec 05 2011 at 11:15 AM Rating: Good
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Turin wrote:
The only use I have for that silly thing is distract dragons so can get all stabby with them. Horses are too damn slow and the controls are just odd. It's pretty much always a better idea to walk.


Agreed. Especially without being able to interact or fight from them...it's like being neutered when you ride. Add to that their wonky behavior, and I haven't bothered with one since I dismounted for the first time.
#899 Dec 05 2011 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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I also reached 100 enchanting and the dual enchant perk last night. My dragonscale boots now have muffled and 40% to sneak on them which makes sneaking so much more fun. I also got a 62 hp and stam regen dragonscale chest. I need to find and kill more dragons since I'm running out of scales to make armor!


What item can you disenchant muffle from? I've been trying every one I get.
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#900 Dec 05 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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Check out armor and general store vendors if you need an enchantment. It seems their inventory is somewhat random and changes everyday, so I would warp around to all the different cities, talking to blacksmiths, looking to see who carried my enchantments.

I know I've seen muffle on boots before, not sure about other pieces.

Edited, Dec 5th 2011 11:41am by xypin
#901 Dec 05 2011 at 11:40 AM Rating: Good
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I got it off a necklace.
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