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#1352 Mar 05 2012 at 9:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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I haven't played in a while, but I ended up siding with the Stormcloaks, mostly because that was the dude I followed out of the tutorial area. He helped save my bacon so I just ended up with the Stormcloaks. I absolutely hated the whole Whiterun thing. I had done the questing in there and got a house and then Ulfric wants to attack it. So I go to Whiterun to talk to the Jarl and there's no option to drop allegiance to the Stormcloaks at that point. I should have been able to side with the Jarl of Whiterun and help with the defense, even if I had been with the Stormcloaks to that point.

I think I lost where I was supposed to go in the main story, and ended up playing other games.
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I absolutely hated the whole Whiterun thing. I had done the questing in there and got a house and then Ulfric wants to attack it.
I sided with Ulfric and still got to keep my house. I was annoyed that I had to claim Whiterun for Ulfric since Balgruuf was supposed to be neutral and more awesome than all the other Jarls combined. Only other issue I had with Stormcloak path was the end- Ulfric makes it sound like there is much to be done, but then everything ends.
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I absolutely hated the whole Whiterun thing. I had done the questing in there and got a house and then Ulfric wants to attack it.
I sided with Ulfric and still got to keep my house. I was annoyed that I had to claim Whiterun for Ulfric since Balgruuf was supposed to be neutral and more awesome than all the other Jarls combined. Only other issue I had with Stormcloak path was the end- Ulfric makes it sound like there is much to be done, but then everything ends.


There's also that whole "tool of the Thalmor, playing right into their hands" thing.

But yeah, the Balgruuf thing pretty much insures that I'll never go Stormcloak outside of an achievement run.
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#1355 Mar 05 2012 at 11:32 AM Rating: Excellent
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There's also that whole "tool of the Thalmor, playing right into their hands" thing.
I thought that's why I was there? I'm pretty sure I could take on their armies alone and come out victorious.
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The war itself was a convenience for the Thalmar. I sided with the Stormcloaks because the Imperials seemed comfortable in "appeasing" the Thalmar, going as far denying Skyrim the basic right of freedom of religion... just to make the Thalmar happy. Also, the Battle-born made themselves out to be a bunch of elitist pricks. I ended up killing all of them except the two that could not be killed, their leader and the little boy.
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#1357 Mar 05 2012 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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But that's the thing. The Thalmor knew that the Empire was mustering its resources for a renewed attack on them, specifically because it didn't want its people being oppressed. Skyrim was one of the strongest of the remaining nations, and also the one least affected by the Thalmor. Even now, it's the Empire keeping them from actually stationing a whole army in the North, instead being forced to make do with a few embassies and garrisons.

Ulfric was actually a political tool of the Thalmor (though he doesn't realize that)--they engineered the civil war in the first place, having specifically influenced him during the earlier war with the goal that he would rebel.

The civil war severely weakened Skyrim to the point that they couldn't muster their resources for a second war with the Thalmor. Things would be even worse if Ulfric won. Yeah, the civil war would be over, but then the Empire would have lost Skyrim's influence, making them even easier to control for the Thalmor. That increases the strength of the Dominion. Ulfric's victory also means the severe oppression of all non-Nords and Imperial supporters, weakening Skyrim as a whole (where the Empire is inclined to forgive the average supporters, post war).

Civil war or Stormcloak victories are actually both significant victories for the Thalmor. The only way Skyrim has any hope of regaining religious freedom is by supporting the Empire, thereby gaining them a much larger enemy with which to break the Concordant.

Furthermore, he divided what was previously a unified nation against the Thalmor. No one liked their control, and everyone (including the High King) was willing to work for its end. He put his personal ambitions ahead of everyone else, and shattered their ability to fight back. And everyone on the Stormcloak's side paints Toryyg as this big coward. Yet he accepted Ulfric's duel knowing full well that he could not survive it (as it is no secret that Ulfric spent years training with the Greybeards). That sounds honorable and brave to me.

TL;DR: Ulfric's a fool and he's the one truly to blame for Skyrim's lack of religious freedom, as his actions took away the ability for anyone to resist the Thalmor (though he has yet to realize that).


Also, I hate the Stormcloaks. Like I want to punch most of their supporters in the face.

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#1358 Mar 05 2012 at 2:16 PM Rating: Good
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Meh, all that aside, my character at this point could destroy the Dominion all on his own. Yet everyone still talks to him like some kind of bum looking for handouts.

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#1359 Mar 05 2012 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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I pretty much wanted to murder every guard in Skyrim. And I was RPing as a good guy.

Except for the guy who wonders if he's Dovahkiin, but just doesn't know it yet.
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I absolutely hated the whole Whiterun thing. I had done the questing in there and got a house and then Ulfric wants to attack it.
I didn't mean to say he wanted to attack my house, I meant Whiterun itself.
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Civil war or Stormcloak victories are actually both significant victories for the Thalmor. The only way Skyrim has any hope of regaining religious freedom is by supporting the Empire, thereby gaining them a much larger enemy with which to break the Concordant.
The Thalmor seem to believe that him winning is at least worse than a continuous civil war, so there's that. And I'm not so sure that it's the only way Skyrim has a shot at regaining religious freedom.

While a unified empire might hold the strongest possibility for defeating the Thalmor, a strong and unified Skyrim would be no slouch, methinks, especially with the dragonborn fighting with them. And while the Empire might one day throw off the Concordat, I can certainly see how the Nords, who seem to most revere Talos, would chafe under their apparent inaction.

Besides, out from under the thumb of the Empire, Skyrim is free to practice their religion however they want until the Thalmor come try to take it from them, and I doubt that the Thalmor will find that an easy task.
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#1362 Mar 05 2012 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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I don't think I agree. Skyrim's greatest asset are its warriors, true. But the Empire is doing a LOT to downplay their significant weaknesses. This primarily relates to food supply, as Skyrim simply cannot grow enough crops to sustain itself. Its population grew after joining the Empire, because they received resources from all over Cyrodiil. They don't make a huge deal of this in the game, but it is mentioned every so often that Skyrim relies on those.

Add to that the fact that Hunters will tell you that the lands are actually controlled by feudal laws. The Jarls own all the game in their woods, which means hunting them is illegal. And if we are assuming that lessons learned from human history apply, it's definitely not safe to assume they would allow increased hunting in years where the crop was bad.

They are rich in lumber and ore, which makes for good trading material. Under the stability of the Empire, that allowed the population to swell (and become relatively prosperous). But if they are surrounded by the Dominion on all sides, that won't be an option--many people will starve.

Add in the fact that Winterhold used to be one of its most powerful Holds, but it's now a shell.

There are other issues too. Lack of food challenges their ability to maintain a standing army (the Stormcloak's lack of resources is pretty apparent next to the well-funded Imperial military).

One of the most important, imo, is the turn from magic. It was WAY more common in Skyrim when Tiber Septim was emperor. But magic has been stigmatized as a result of the Thalmor and the Oblivion crisis.

And that's a ridiculously huge reduction in their capability for war. Healing, support, recon work, heavy assault, etc. A trained mage is worth way more than the best warrior is from a logistics standpoint. They can, in an instant, switch from acting as a highly mobile (and potentially invisible) heavy artillery platform and move to the role of combat medic. They can erect shields around the base of command, bolster the morale of your troops (and depress the enemy), turn the enemy on itself, conjure additional allies, and make allies from the fallen on both sides. Etc.

I seriously doubt that Skyrim, with its huge lack of Mages, can actually counter the Dominion in any meaningful way. A single Mage can produce a massive fireball capable of wiping out multiple soldiers from long range, or a small group can work together to blast through some gates. No number of catapults will counter that.

Also note that the Voice used to be more common in Skyrim, too. They actually used to have schools that taught the Thu'um. So they can't even make up for it by their own skill in magic.

Sure, the Dragonborn is a huge asset. But I can't believe he/she'd be significant enough to turn the tide of battle if the Dominion actually invaded.
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#1365 Mar 06 2012 at 5:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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The way I looked at it was this, the Empire wanted to kill me. ME!. So they all burned, literally, I roasted them with fireballs. I wasn't even on the list, and Tulius' Captain still put me under the block. Not to mention Tulius has a hard on for Elves. He **** and moaned when I disallowed the Embassy to play a role in peace talks, so **** him, and his Empire.

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rmdcandle, to be fair, General Tulius had nothing to do with your execution. Halvd... Half... Hadwhatevershisface tells the womancaptain that you're not on the list and she sends you off to the block anyway. If you follow Thatotherguy to the keep then you get to kill her. End of grudge.

General Tulius is only there to oversee the execution of Ulfric. The female captain is the one who sentences you to death despite your innocence.

I wanted to kill Baalgruf so much when I first visited him and was like "Oh, yeah, the Imperials **** near chopped my head off!" and he's like "Ah, I'm surprised you admit your criminal past /broseidon_pose" It took me a couple of reloads before I decided to stop trying to kill him and just let it go.

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rmdcandle, to be fair, General Tulius had nothing to do with your execution. Halvd... Half... Hadwhatevershisface tells the womancaptain that you're not on the list and she sends you off to the block anyway. If you follow Thatotherguy to the keep then you get to kill her. End of grudge.

General Tulius is only there to oversee the execution of Ulfric. The female captain is the one who sentences you to death despite your innocence.

I wanted to kill Baalgruf so much when I first visited him and was like "Oh, yeah, the Imperials **** near chopped my head off!" and he's like "Ah, I'm surprised you admit your criminal past /broseidon_pose" It took me a couple of reloads before I decided to stop trying to kill him and just let it go.

Edited, Mar 7th 2012 12:36am by Mazra


And when you join the Legion, he clearly doesn't believe that you were there for no reason (which he'd have no reason to suspect if he knew specifics). But he's willing to look the other way on Hadvar's good word, or because you want to help.

I don't generally like Tulius because of his lack of cultural sensitivity. But I'm not inclined to blame him for that part. It was the captain's decision, and there's no reason to assume he was aware of it. Just like there's no reason to assume he knew that other guy was a horse thief.
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-shrug- The fact that Ulfric was there probably had Tulius's full attention. So what if a couple innocent people had to die if the Empires most wanted criminal in Skyrim is at the chopping block? (obviously the only innocent one was you but considering the horse thief wasn't in Stormcloak garb means Tulius wouldn't know about the horse thief's actions unless was told)

Besides I would rather work for Tulius who really don't give a rats **** about me than Ulfric, who treats me like I don't deserve to lick the mud from his boots. This coming from someone who hasn't gotten very far into the quests on either sides. What? I got more important things to do... like ripping wings off butterflies.
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This coming from someone who hasn't gotten very far into the quests on either sides. What? I got more important things to do... like ripping wings off butterflies.


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An imperial is an imperial. If I died under that axe who would save Skyrim, and who would **** off that stuck up **** of an ambassador.

I stand by my decision.

That and a Thalmor patrol leading a random dude tried to kill me when I stopped to ask why they were walking a gy with underwear down the road. I hate Imperials, but I hate Elves more, Imperials are in bed with elves, a feint or not, I kill the highborn and wood elves on sight (or try to.)

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Boy o boy someone must have gotten all e-thug and downranked everyone. Smiley: laugh

On a more important note I have been getting the desire to start playing again. On the other hand I know I will end up probably going 2h weapon and just plowing through everything, breaking the fun of combat real quick. Might force myself into going SnB and avoid BS like the plague. Enchanting I will probably work on but avoid anything too powerful. On a side note, can one do the Dark Brotherhood quests and a non-sneaky character and not get too penalized? I might just go the **** route on this character.
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Did they? I green-arrowed everyone, just to be safe. :P (On this page at least).

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They have potions of invisibility, right? You could just use those for any odd bits that really bias in favor of stealth.

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Yeah I gave em a round of rate up myself after you mentioned it. Forgot I could do that. I know, super 'dur' moment. Smiley: bah

On topic, that does sound like a good idea. I will just have to scalp out some invis potions (or make them myself) before getting into it.
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If I recall, the ingredients are Frost Wraith Teeth and Vampire Dust. So if you know some regular places to get those, hit 'em up.
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If I recall, the ingredients are Frost Wraith Teeth and Vampire Dust. So if you know some regular places to get those, hit 'em up.


Chaurus eggs, too. And they can be found with relative frequency in a lot of caves. Particularly ones with falmer or chaurus. Only downside is that you might have to deal with falmer and chaurus.

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If I recall, the ingredients are Frost Wraith Teeth and Vampire Dust. So if you know some regular places to get those, hit 'em up.


Chaurus eggs, too. And they can be found with relative frequency in a lot of caves. Particularly ones with falmer or chaurus. Only downside is that you might have to deal with falmer and chaurus terrifying screechers and asshole destroyers.


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#1377 Mar 19 2012 at 2:47 PM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
IDrownFish of the Seven Seas wrote:
If I recall, the ingredients are Frost Wraith Teeth and Vampire Dust. So if you know some regular places to get those, hit 'em up.


Chaurus eggs, too. And they can be found with relative frequency in a lot of caves. Particularly ones with falmer or chaurus. Only downside is that you might have to deal with falmer and chaurus.

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Late, just adding that you can also use Vampire Dust + Luna Moth Wings to make an invisibility + health regen potion.
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Luna Moths are my favorite insect to go chasing... So pretty...
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I only managed to find them once, where do they normally spawn?
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They're all over the place, but only at night (I think). I know I see them in graveyard-esque areas. Not sure where else.

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Maybe I should just let a dragon set me on fire, and run through a field while Lydia follows me with a net.
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Maybe I should just let a dragon set me on fire, and run through a field while Lydia follows me with a net.


Well, I would hope she's better at catching moths than she is at killing things...
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
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Maybe I should just let a dragon set me on fire, and run through a field while Lydia follows me with a net.


Well, I would hope she's better at catching moths than she is at killing things...


Considering she can't die unless I accidentally hit her she's awesome. I gave her Ebony armor and a Ebony great-axe, and she can hold her own until I'm hidden again. Then I sneak out and Backstab the highest level enemy with a paralysis coated Ebony dagger.
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I just shoot people in the knee with arrows. No fuss, no muss. Just "THWIP, THWACK, ARGH, I'M A MEME, *die*."
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I just shoot people in the knee with arrows. No fuss, no muss. Just "THWIP, THWACK, ARGH, I'M A MEME, *die*."


I'm not able to one-shot people with a bow, so I'll stick to dual-wielding daggers. Still, Sneak at 100 with Shrouded Hood and Boots and I still can't hide from a dragon. Smiley: frown
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I often find Lydia likes to run in front of my weapon after I've started swinging it, which gets seriously annoying.
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Speaking of Luna Moths, I found one in a jar (I also have a Torchbug). The **** thing will not stay on the shelf I put it on. It's a pain in the **** to get it set up sitting properly, then when I leave and come back, it's sitting in the middle of the **** floor. There apparently are jars with a bee, a butterfly, and a dragonfly as well that I haven't gotten yet, but since I can't manage to get them to stay where I want them, I never bothered to go find them.

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Speaking of Luna Moths, I found one in a jar (I also have a Torchbug). The **** thing will not stay on the shelf I put it on. It's a pain in the **** to get it set up sitting properly, then when I leave and come back, it's sitting in the middle of the **** floor. There apparently are jars with a bee, a butterfly, and a dragonfly as well that I haven't gotten yet, but since I can't manage to get them to stay where I want them, I never bothered to go find them.

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I found the butterfly one and had a hard time getting it to stay. But I eventually succeeded.
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I often find Lydia likes to run in front of my weapon after I've started swinging it, which gets seriously annoying.


The primary reason why I didn't use companions. Secondary reason was their lack of anything resembling sneak mode.

Me: "Ok, Lydia, let's sneak past these guys so we can kill them from the other side."
Lydia: "Ok."
*thud thud thud*
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Me: "..."
Lydia: "WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT?! I'M SWORN TO CARRY YOUR BURDENS!"
Enemies: "Huh? Oh shi- ATTACK!"
Me: "/swing_greataxe"
Lydia: "/intercept_greataxe"
Me: "Oh, for the love of..."

After a dozen reloads because of scenarios like that, I decided to park Lydia's pretty little **** in Whiterun and just go shoot stuff from the darkest corner of the room.
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Lydia made a great sacrifice for that one quest about ... sacrificing ... a friend ... thing.

Didn't even use the dagger. Just an arrow to the face.

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Two days ago Lydia bravely sacrificed herself fighting a sabre cat that I had been intent on just ignoring. I may have gotten a little....er...imprudent with my slashes to impatiently kill it off. What can I say? The battle-rage had taken hold. A stray sword could have found its way anywhere that fateful day. It's all kind of a blur, really. I mean, who really knows what happened?

So, Ahtar (sp?) it is for me, now. Mostly on account of me wanting his axe. Though as badass as it looks from a distance, up close it's sort of like I'm just holding a brittle tree limb. At any rate, he's bearable, though not particularly fun to be around. And I don't like the annoyed way he says "What do you need to take." every time I want him to return an item I was kind enough to lend him.

Currently seeking companions who are a little more tractable about carrying my burdens.

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#1393 Mar 20 2012 at 9:37 AM Rating: Good
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The first time I tried to give something to Lydia, I actually said "Well f*** you too, **** out loud. Which made my roommate give me a funny look from the kitchen...
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#1394 Mar 20 2012 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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Speaking of Luna Moths, I found one in a jar (I also have a Torchbug). The **** thing will not stay on the shelf I put it on. It's a pain in the **** to get it set up sitting properly, then when I leave and come back, it's sitting in the middle of the **** floor. There apparently are jars with a bee, a butterfly, and a dragonfly as well that I haven't gotten yet, but since I can't manage to get them to stay where I want them, I never bothered to go find them.

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I have a bunch of bugs. They're all probably smushed into the bottom of my bag by now as i don't have a shelf.

Do you get a shelf when you buy a house?

I didn't know that you could use companions to carry stuff for you. Maybe I'll have to rethink my decision about dungeon-crawling without them. Lydia does seem to lack situational awareness - or maybe she's just blind. My horse, too, is always drawing in wild animals and then getting in between my sword and the beast.
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#1395 Mar 20 2012 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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Speaking of Luna Moths, I found one in a jar (I also have a Torchbug). The **** thing will not stay on the shelf I put it on. It's a pain in the **** to get it set up sitting properly, then when I leave and come back, it's sitting in the middle of the **** floor. There apparently are jars with a bee, a butterfly, and a dragonfly as well that I haven't gotten yet, but since I can't manage to get them to stay where I want them, I never bothered to go find them.

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I have a bunch of bugs. They're all probably smushed into the bottom of my bag by now as i don't have a shelf.

Do you get a shelf when you buy a house?

I didn't know that you could use companions to carry stuff for you. Maybe I'll have to rethink my decision about dungeon-crawling without them. Lydia does seem to lack situational awareness - or maybe she's just blind. My horse, too, is always drawing in wild animals and then getting in between my sword and the beast.


Yeah, but you have to manually move items onto them (how to do so depends on your platform). And there's a bug with the phsyics engine that means anything not completely at rest will go flying when you zone in, so it takes time to set things up the way you want them.

You will, however, get bookcases that act as storage chests (with a cap on the number of books per shelf), so you just put them in the order you want them, and it'll automatically fill the shelf.
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Putting stuff on shelves is a pain. Trying to stack apples in a bowl when suddenly the apples start to vibrate like crazy and the bowl launches in a random direction, sending the apples flying in all other directions.

Skyrim's physics engine is weird. Kind of pulls the game down a bit.
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My biggest gripe is when a corpse keeps sliding down the mountain...
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Putting stuff on shelves is a pain. Trying to stack apples in a bowl when suddenly the apples start to vibrate like crazy and the bowl launches in a random direction, sending the apples flying in all other directions.

Skyrim's physics engine is weird. Kind of pulls the game down a bit.


Yeah, I unlocked a gate in a Dwemer ruin in order to get the loot on the table behind it. As soon as the doors opened all the items launched themselves at me, I thought I had activated some kind of Catapult trap. Smiley: lol
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#1399 Apr 06 2012 at 11:52 PM Rating: Good
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So, the latest patch broke going underwater for the PS3. Freezes every single time.

That's something you'd think they'd have caught before releasing it. Hmph.
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Smiley: lolSmiley: lolSmiley: lol Awesome.

I'm at my parents' house for the weekend, so I can't test it on my end. I'm seeing reports that random freezing issues remain, though at least it seems true that the frame-rate issue is fixed. Maybe deleting your patches and reupdating will help?
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Maybe deleting your patches and reupdating will help?


I'll give it a try later today. I've read mixed reports on that; some people said it fixed things, others say the problem remains. Fingers crossed.
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