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#452 Nov 18 2011 at 8:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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This is entirely unrelated to skyrim but mah kitty is sleeping on my lap as I play and it's just too cute to not tell anyone.
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#453 Nov 18 2011 at 9:02 PM Rating: Good
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So apparently enchanting is performed in real time and you really do only have 60 seconds with an enchanting+% potion... enchanting more smithing+% and alchemy+% gear was a real race against time!
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well i started a roguish kahjit. after helgen, bleak falls barrow, and the first couple smithing assignments i was level 12 with 50 archery and 46 sneak, lol. seems like the opposite of most rpgs where the second run through goes so fast you end up underleveled. i was so proud of myself until i realised that enemies are going to be scaled way up relative to my damage output. my first guy was a thane with a house and a couple dragon shouts at level 11.

i tried the dense starfield and hi-res blood mods. only time i bothered to look at the sky at night it was overcast, and wow there's a lot more blood on the screen now.

the big ram patch feels like it makes the game load faster, but i don't see it actually using any more ram, and i don't think my c2d + 4670 have the balls to crank up the graphics too much.

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#455 Nov 18 2011 at 10:17 PM Rating: Good
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So, has anyone made a Khajiit with Fists of Steel (Heavy Armor perk) and gone unarmed yet?

Also, anyone rolling with a "Battlemage"? I couldn't decide if I wanted to go magic or melee, so I've gone both at the same time. Because I can. Sword in one hand, spell in the other.

At first I went with a robe because of the increase in magicka, but then I realized that I look 200% more badass in the Nord steel armor, so now I'm rocking crappy magicka regen, but an outfit that makes maidens swoon whenever I enter the room.

Optimal? Probably not, but I'm doing it because... @#%^ yeah!


Battlemage would necessitate some sort of magicka drain effect on your weapon I would think. Going robes makes melee a bad idea otherwise, because you can get diced up pretty bad. But if your enchanting is high enough, it may make getting robes pointless...(except the Archmage one!)
#456 Nov 18 2011 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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In my experience, magic regeneration+% is meh during combat. Instead, I'd go with an MP Absorb weapon and Spell Cost-%.
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#457 Nov 18 2011 at 10:36 PM Rating: Good
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How far in until we can get the first house? I am sure getting tired lugging quite a bit of ore around and I have a nasty habit of collecting ore like each chunk is a very inactive but loveable pokemon.

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After you kill your first dragon in the main quest (or maybe after recovering the dragon stone?), you are able to buy your house in Whiterun for 5000g. I have only bought a house in Whiterun, so I cannot comment about the other cities. Other cities might have houses for sale immediately.

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xypin wrote:
After you kill your first dragon in the main quest (or maybe after recovering the dragon stone?), you are able to buy your house in Whiterun for 5000g. I have only bought a house in Whiterun, so I cannot comment about the other cities. Other cities might have houses for sale immediately.

Edited, Nov 18th 2011 10:40pm by xypin


You pretty much need to trigger certain questlines for housing. Some are free and others cost. And I can think of one that comes with a huge reward that you spend most of in order to renovate the housing in the first place. :D
#460 Nov 18 2011 at 10:53 PM Rating: Good
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Went more of the Paladin route myself (without the righteousness)- Alteration and Restoration magic combined with a sword and shield. Of course, with such a ridiculously high damage weapon, I might as well just drop the shield and dual wield.


I think you underestimate the power of the board. With Deadly Bash my shield hits like a truck on bash. It basically is dual wielding except with lots of extra block. Plus with the stagger meditated fus boost word I stun the crap out of mobs with shield bash. I saw earlier you don't power attack or bash becuase of stamina but I never run out of stamina. I have been balancing Stam and Health every other level and ignoring magica since I can always top off with dual wield healing and that the only magic I use on this toon besides enchants and shouts.

My Fights are swing/Block/Bash/Swing repeat depending on mob strength then it's dead for the most part now. But sometimes I just shield bash something dead to save charges on my fire enchant sword.

Edited to add: Conditioning (Heavy Armor weighs nothing and does not slow you down when worn) which I just got rules!


Edited, Nov 18th 2011 8:56pm by Shojindo
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#461 Nov 18 2011 at 10:57 PM Rating: Good
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It's more of an issue with one shotting everything with my sword... though I do like my shield as I find it makes combat more interesting. Well timed bashes make fighting sooo much easier... especially against enemies with Fus Ro Dah. I'm the only one that should be able to use that! Smiley: mad


Also, not sure what I did, but it states my sword deals 251 damage and deals Frost and Shock damage for enchantments as suggested... 31 damage from each.

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Hehe yeah I just did a quest in Whiterun where I had to kill some bandits at Silent Moons Camp and when I went to turn it in Proventus Avenicci gave me the option to buy a house in town. I almost miss the way Oblivion gave the option to buy a town if you had the cash yet still gave the option for a really cheep house if you wanted to put a bit of work into it. That is probably the only big thing about Oblivion I miss though. Smiley: tongue

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Last night I purchased the Whiterun home, and ran around taking every item I could get my hands on to sell to get money for purchasing the upgrades. Then tonight I realized, I can do work! Cutting firewood, for 5 gold per piece of wood. Talk about a waste of time lugging loot back and forth. Today I used the wood cutting to finish off the last few upgrades.

Before I knew it, it was almost 1:30 am. Need to sleep to get ready for a long day of playing tomorrow. And Sunday...
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#464 Nov 19 2011 at 12:25 AM Rating: Good
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I've been doing so much better since I gave up on trying 1h + magic. Dual wielding is awesome, but I also have a shield for certain enemies.

Also, I'm using daggers for obvious reasons - though I didn't think they qualified for the 1h sword perk. Was I wrong? Either way, I think the points are better invested in other trees than just crit chance.
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How do you use your off-hand weapon when dual-wielding? Seems like you can't swing with both weapons except when using the power attack.

Dual-wield, man... how does it work?
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#466 Nov 19 2011 at 7:33 AM Rating: Good
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How do you use your off-hand weapon when dual-wielding? Seems like you can't swing with both weapons except when using the power attack.

Dual-wield, man... how does it work?


Right mouse button I'm guessing since thats the button I use for shield.
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#467 Nov 19 2011 at 8:48 AM Rating: Good
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There are so many awesome magic talents spread throughout the trees that I'm torn about what to get first. Also, does anyone know if a healing spell with the perk to heal stamina as well will work if your health is full? Also, will you get skillups for them?

Anyway, I'm thinking I'm gonna go say hi to the greybeards sometime soon. I squee'd when I first heard they were gonna be in the game.
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#468 Nov 19 2011 at 10:37 AM Rating: Good
Xypin wrote:
Also, not sure what I did, but it states my sword deals 251 damage


I know what you did. You broke the game! You might want to consider turning up the difficulty. Smiley: tongue

And Idigg doo eet. The greybeards hook you up with some pretty helpful stuff. On my next play through I won't put that off so long.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 8:42am by Shojindo
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#469 Nov 19 2011 at 10:49 AM Rating: Good
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Shojindo of the Ten Storms wrote:
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Also, not sure what I did, but it states my sword deals 251 damage


I know what you did. You broke the game! You might want to consider turning up the difficulty. Smiley: tongue

And Idigg doo eet. The greybeards hook you up with some pretty helpful stuff. On my next play through I won't put that off so long.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 8:42am by Shojindo


Really? Nice.

Also, I just checked out that one port town (Dawnstar, maybe? The one where everyone is tired) and they got attacked by two dragons in a row. lol, they just can't catch a break. Good thing I was there to steal their souls...
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#470 Nov 19 2011 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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Mazra wrote:
How do you use your off-hand weapon when dual-wielding? Seems like you can't swing with both weapons except when using the power attack.

Dual-wield, man... how does it work?


Uhhh... use the right mouse button? I alternate them pretty quickly and it works pretty well.
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#471 Nov 19 2011 at 11:05 AM Rating: Good
Is it like shield bashing where if you hold the left trigger down it blocks but if you click right again it swings/bashes? I play with a 360 controller on PC so that's how the triggers work for me. (Gives me a nice rest from WASD carpel damage MMO's have done to me over the last 10 years)

I honestly have never tried dual wielding yet either. Picked up my shield and stuck with it.


Edited, Nov 19th 2011 9:55am by Shojindo
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In my game I actually rebound the controls for attacking. Now my left hand is bound to my left click, and right hand to the right click. It makes more sense to me than the backwards way they had it when I first booted it up. Smiley: oyvey

The thing about dual wielding for me is it's kind of just "OH GOD SPAMSPAMSPAM DIE ALREADY" while trying not to get hit.
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#473 Nov 19 2011 at 1:59 PM Rating: Good
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In my game I actually rebound the controls for attacking. Now my left hand is bound to my left click, and right hand to the right click. It makes more sense to me than the backwards way they had it when I first booted it up. Smiley: oyvey

The thing about dual wielding for me is it's kind of just "OH GOD SPAMSPAMSPAM DIE ALREADY" while trying not to get hit.


That's... how everything is for me.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
There are so many awesome magic talents spread throughout the trees that I'm torn about what to get first. Also, does anyone know if a healing spell with the perk to heal stamina as well will work if your health is full? Also, will you get skillups for them?

Anyway, I'm thinking I'm gonna go say hi to the greybeards sometime soon. I squee'd when I first heard they were gonna be in the game.


I say ***** them and go be a master Enchanter. Bonus points for naming yourself Tim. :D

0 magicka spells is nice...
#475 Nov 19 2011 at 3:16 PM Rating: Good
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Wait, I can get 0 magicka spells?
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This intrigues me. What are these 0 magicka shenanigans you speak of?

Edit: Found it.

It's like the 100% chameleon trick in Oblivion. Mass amounts of reduced cost of Destruction or whatever school you want.

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#477 Nov 19 2011 at 4:24 PM Rating: Good
Got a couple of arrows embedded in your chest? That's becuase you are saving them for later. Simply take your arrows and store them in your storage (not human) chest. This will instantly remove them from your flesh. After you can safely take them back out and equip them without fear of self poking.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 2:27pm by Shojindo
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Got a couple of arrows embedded in your chest? That's becuase you are saving them for later. Simply take your arrows and store them in your storage (not human) chest. This will instantly remove them from your flesh. After you can safely take them back out and equip them without fear of self poking.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 2:27pm by Shojindo


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#479 Nov 19 2011 at 5:21 PM Rating: Good
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And I'm totally debating on whether or not I think the magicka enchanting thing is too broken to use. Because then I could invest in health and leave my magicka as-is for the time being... And that sounds pretty swell, since I'm TOTALLY a glass cannon.

Hmmm...

I mean, I could always stop earlier to make it less broken, if I wanted... But getting free Destruction spells and only having to pay for my restoration/conjuration just sounds tasty.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
And I'm totally debating on whether or not I think the magicka enchanting thing is too broken to use. Because then I could invest in health and leave my magicka as-is for the time being... And that sounds pretty swell, since I'm TOTALLY a glass cannon.

Hmmm...

I mean, I could always stop earlier to make it less broken, if I wanted... But getting free Destruction spells and only having to pay for my restoration/conjuration just sounds tasty.


If you think it's too broken, just keep the Archmage robes and skip the chest. :D
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Daaww. Smiley: blush

Totally self discovered though on that tip. Was so relieved to see those arrows finally gone after I tried the idea. I suppose just dropping your arrows and picking them back up would probably do the trick as well though I have not confirmed that like with the storage chest.

In other news I'm in full (Legendary)Dragon Plate now Rawr! Plus I liberated Skyrim from the empire in my spare time.

I'm delving into the main quest pretty hard now. With just the occasional wandering for dragon words or priests when I see them pop on my radar.

Edited, Nov 19th 2011 3:37pm by Shojindo
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I'm a thane in 3/9 holds. Debating skipping Riften and Winterhold entirely on this run, because I want to play a thief/mage in another game. Got enchanting up to about 75/100, and sitting at level 37 right now. Figure I'll sink my perks into that once I hit 100, enchant all my dragonbone stuff (since it will take 3+ worthless perks to get Daedra items), and then just work on the main quest.

Picking locks and pockets is addicting. I think a sneaky rogue type will be my next character.
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Drulian, Pie Eating Champion wrote:
Right mouse button I'm guessing since thats the button I use for shield.


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Uhhh... use the right mouse button? I alternate them pretty quickly and it works pretty well.


Yeah, I worded it poorly, I think. What I meant was that you couldn't attack with both hands except for power attacks, but I've since then found out that you can do regular attacks with both weapons at the same time as well.

My Battlemage is coming along nicely. It's just a shame that I don't use more spells than I do. And it's a shame that there aren't any light armor helmets that don't look like absolute crap. I'm still wearing a hood because of it, but with the light armor perks I'm getting, I'll want to switch to full light armor soon.

Flames plus a one-handed is win, though. Apply fire and bash/cut until win, which is usually one or two swings on regular enemies.
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#484 Nov 20 2011 at 8:35 AM Rating: Good
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Well, I've finished the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood, now to decide if I want to bother with the mages guild still since I stopped wanting to use magic...
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I'm enjoying the quest line so far. But be wary of J'zargo. That guy's an ***.
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#486 Nov 20 2011 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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Is there anyway to clean up Riften? Every quest I'm getting there seems to revolve around stealing something, or ******** someone over...
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You could just start 'cleaning up' with your axes.
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You could just start 'cleaning up' with your axes.

Kinda off-topic, but I do like that dealing death can often be a valid choice. In Markareth, for example, I was framed for a series of murders and thrown in jail. Following the quests, you're supposed to join up with the king of the Forsworn to escape. The first task he gave me was killing another prisoner who was no longer useful. I thought about it for a minute, said "***** that," pulled out my daggers and killed him instead. Stole the key and escaped all by myself, happy that I did the world a favor and didn't sully my own honor.
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#489 Nov 20 2011 at 1:15 PM Rating: Good
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Alchemy levels so much slower than the other two crafts... Smithing is super fast, and enchanting isn't that much slower (though it takes longer to get something valuable from it).
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#490 Nov 20 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Good
I decided to take a break from my level 30's Nord guy to roll up a cute Breton mage chicky. Everything seems all fresh and new again. Pure magic is really fun.

Question about armor and magic:

Can I were light armor and just chant it with the magic regen from a robe? Seems weird that robes have 0 armor. I feel slightly nekkid after having heavy armor on for so long. Smiley: eek

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Shojindo of the Ten Storms wrote:
I decided to take a break from my level 30's Nord guy to roll up a cute Breton mage chicky. Everything seems all fresh and new again. Pure magic is really fun.

Question about armor and magic:

Can I were light armor and just chant it with the magic regen from a robe? Seems weird that robes have 0 armor. I feel slightly nekkid after having heavy armor on for so long. Smiley: eek

Edited, Nov 20th 2011 11:35am by Shojindo

I believe so. A friend of mine said the enchants weren't as strong as they were on robes, but then again his enchanting isn't capped yet. Something on the order of -6% cost and 20% regen compared to 12% cost and 75% regen on a robe.
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#492 Nov 20 2011 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
Thanks I figured it was something like that. So far the no armor thing is not to much trouble since fire roasts things dead so fast.

On another note, I tried to make a female High Elf first before settling on the Breton. But I could not for the life of me create one that did not look like an Alienmanchickbug. Elves in this game are really funky looking.
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You can indeed. I thought my Battlemage was doomed to a life of crappy magicka regen in his leather armor, but now he's rocking slightly less crappy magicka regen in his enchanted leather armor.

Just need to find a leather helmet that doesn't make him look like a total dork. Now, you're probably wondering how bad it can be for me to mention it this many times. Probably think I'm just a diva.

Put on some Studded Leather Armor (important) and Leather Bracers/Boots. Now, equip a Novice/Apprentice Hood. He looks freakin' badass, right? He looks like he's ready to beat in some dragon face with some spells AND a sword, am I right?

Now equip a Hide/Leather helmet.

Yeah.

Exactly.

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I eventually decided to settle with a Brenton mage myself after trying the various styles of gameplay. Cloth really isn't an issue due to running out of mana before stuff get's to you to do harm. I recommend picking up the Apprentice buff you get south of Solitude. It gets annoying to have to wait after every other fight to let your mana recharge.
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I tried going full Mage, since my Destruction and Restoration skills are pretty high, but stuff kept not dying to my magic fast enough. Granted, not having dual cast and stuff like that probably means a lot, but I still feel a double Firebolt should do some kind of damage.

What was/is your Destruction skill at level 15-ish?

This game, man. It's pulling me in. It might just be the best invention since food. And beer.
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Why leather? Dragonscale armor is the way to go. It's the strongest light armor in the game as far as I can tell, and it's not particularly hard to get. Also, I don't get the multiple character thing. There is so much to do in this game, it would take hundreds of hours on just one character. More than that just seems crazy to me.
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Why leather? Dragonscale armor is the way to go. It's the strongest light armor in the game as far as I can tell, and it's not particularly hard to get. Also, I don't get the multiple character thing. There is so much to do in this game, it would take hundreds of hours on just one character. More than that just seems crazy to me.

That's kind of the thing though; doing it all on one character just seems kinda meh. I'm skipping Riften and Winterhold almost entirely on this playthrough; I want to make a mage and a thief character, just to see the differences. Also, the perks system limits what you can specialize in; I could do all the Winterhold quests, but won't have enough perks to get much magic. Same with a lot of thief skill set. Yes, I pick locks like a fiend and am just finding the fun insneaking and pickpocketing, but I won't have the perks to do much with them.

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I'm at 38 in destruction at level 9. I am currently doing Forbidden Legend and most stuff is dying in a a dual cast fireball, sometimes two if they are a bit heartier of a foe. Bosses on the other hand take a while to chip down. Smiley: tongue

I start with multiple characters until I find the playstyle I enjoy doing. Also if for some reason I start to hate my mage I got a SnB and theif sitting there ready to be picked up.
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I think I was at around 40 Destruction at level 9...It's one of the most annoying things in the world to skill up. :P
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>:(

I just used a fully charged FUS RO DAH and the Falmer attacking me didn't even budge, so I died.
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Yeah it is a bit annoying. I am starting to think it would be better if I don't shoot a big fireball but instead two smaller ones to help get my skill up faster.
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