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#1 Nov 08 2011 at 1:46 PM Rating: Good
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I can't wait for Thursday night. I want this game, dammit.

Apparently, a bunch of stores have released early, not realizing that it was coming out on 11/11/11 rather than Tuesday, like most games. It's taking all of my willpower to remember that I have a pre-order at gamestop and, as such, should wait instead of raiding various stores.

So, what will everyone be playing their first time through? Here's a link to the race bonuses in Skyrim.

I'm having a ton of trouble with this question. I really can't decide (and if that continues to be the case, I'll end up as an Imperial, because their increased gold from chests will definitely be useful). I might go with Nord, though. Or Breton.

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Crap. I don't do well with options. Smiley: frown
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#2 Nov 08 2011 at 1:56 PM Rating: Good
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I'm partial to the Redguard, mostly because I usually employ the Sword & Board style of combat. Saving that, I usually played a dark elf in Morrowind, all the better to sneak around and steal stuff.
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I'll go with "Whichever model looks the best after fiddling around with the character creation system for the first seven plus hours." I don't think I'm going to get any sleep this weekend...
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Imma go with Nord. First, because Vikings are awesome. Second, because blue facepaint/tattoos are awesome. Third, because it just seems right, given the setting.

I'm torn about class options, though, so I might end up as a bit of a jack-of-all trades type. I'm pretty sure I'd like to make a thief-y assassin type, but I'll also probably want good archery, and the magic is looking pretty darn cool too. And yet, somehow, I always seem to end up as a tank-spec'd warrior in these games.

I'll probably just wing it, picking and choosing things that seem cool and effective as I get a better feel for how the game plays.

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#5 Nov 08 2011 at 2:12 PM Rating: Good
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They've made some cool changes to both those classes.

Dark Elves can surround themselves with fire, that will burn nearby enemies. Should be entertaining if you end up in a crowd. And it looks like it'll do nearly 500 damage over it's duration. Much better than the crappy ancestor summon.

Redguards get the ability to really ramp up their stam regeneration (so you can take attacks with your shield while swinging like crazy). They also get to resist poison.
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I don't think I'm going to get any sleep this weekend...


I have 25 pages of research-intensive writing to complete by Tuesday. I'm not thrilled by the timing. D:

Also, Nord get cold resist (useful against Frost dragons) and the ability to unleash a warshout that sends all your enemies running in terror. :D
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With the posting of this thread, the productivity of this heavily loaded week of work has just dropped tremendously.

In all TES games, I find my characters always tend to a sword swinging, invincible tank since that's fast and easy, but I'll try to start out as a thief with a little bit of magic blended in. Without stats and (hopefully) no leveling problems, there shouldn't really be a need to pay attention to how my skills progress this time around.

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#8 Nov 08 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
One of my fav characters in Oblivion was my Nord SnB heavy. That guy was beast. I'll probally recreate that guy first.

Then second will be a Dunmer Dark Elf Bow/Assasin Brotherhood type of character.

I'm undecided on my mage though.

I got Friday off for Vet's day. So yeah marathon Skyrim session inc! I can't wait. I'll probally tool around a lot on my first toon exploring and avoiding the main quest. Then jump back into the main quest once I am beefy. That is if it plays anything like Oblivion with the open spelunking of dungeons in every direction. :)
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#9 Nov 08 2011 at 2:24 PM Rating: Good
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My first Oblivion playthrough ended up with a set of full chameleon, backstabbing everything in sight. It was fun, but way too easy. I'm hoping that this isn't even possible this time, especially since they've revamped stealth anyway.

I know it's true that I could just not do it, but I'm way too tempted by sanctioned god modes. XD

I'm interested in their changes to archery. They gave bows some kind of melee attack or counter-attack, so you aren't doomed if your enemy reaches you. And the slow-time of aiming might be enough to make it really fun.
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#10 Nov 08 2011 at 2:28 PM Rating: Good
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Are people planning to go for all guilds with their toons, or spread them out?

In Oblivion, I originally did everything. And it felt really weird being the archmage, the head of the Fighter's guild, head of the Thieves' guild, head of the Dark Brotherhood, and a member of the <insert king's knights name I can't remember>. Oh yeah, and champion of the arena...

This time around, I'm going to limit the number of guilds my character will do. I'll be an assassin, and operate in another guild for cover (for example). Something "respectable." And I'll probably arbitrarily cap my advancement.
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#11 Nov 08 2011 at 2:39 PM Rating: Good
I tend to stick to a theme in these games. Even if it becomes possible to be a Magic wielding, Heavy plate wearing, Sheild, archer, full ninja I won't generally do it. Some things I can see like using a bit of shadow magic or illusion as a thief. Or healing yourself some as a paladin like character.

So my Nord was head of the fighters guild. And my thief went down the Dark Brotherhood chain as well as Grey Fox. My Mage went head of the mages guild etc.

Part of the fun for me is creating new builds and character concepts so doing it all on one toon is not as fun to me.

My Vampire Mage for example(not the same one as was head of the guild) was a concept that was fun until I just decided it was too much of a PITA if I mistimed a dungeon crawl and came out in full day with no where to feed. XD

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#12 Nov 08 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
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I really wish they had added werewolves... I'd have loved to by a Nordic Lycanthrope.
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#13 Nov 08 2011 at 2:41 PM Rating: Good
Ohh I forgot to say my rogue type did not rely on full chameleon. I used it very sparingly. Partially becuase it annoyed me to not see my hands/bow, and partly becuase it was game breaking.
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#14 Nov 08 2011 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
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I think it's fine as long as absolute chameleon is impossible. It's nice to think that you could put a magic affect on gear that helps you meld into shadows or something. But maybe that's how it should work (like, in situations where stealth is impossible, you just can't evade detection).
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Hmm, probably will end up making a couple different characters. A orc sword and board with possible two hander for giggles. A Khadjiit for my stealth and Altmer for my mage. That is when I get some extra cash to buy the game. A bit tight on funds right now so I have to sit on my laurels until I can buy it. :*(
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What I'm really wondering: how many bugs will I encounter in my first two hours of playtime?
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The game has been bought, Friday has been taken off of work, and I've got a good supply of beverages and snacks on hand. I just need to get through the next two days of work, then take a reasonable nap Thursday evening.

As to the game itself, I haven't decided at all what race to go with. I'll probably go with some random human looking guy. It's not like I'm ever going to really be looking at my character, so I'm not too particularly interested in appearances. The initial stat bonuses really don't matter once you've put a few levels on, so the only thing to really be interested in is the racial ability. As to that, I haven't looked into the game enough to make a solid choice. I've actually been doing as much as I can to avoid knowing much about the game. I watched the twenty minutes of game play Bethesda dropped a couple months back, but that's it. I'm looking for my first play through to be fairly untainted.


Edited, Nov 8th 2011 9:29pm by Turin
#18 Nov 08 2011 at 7:00 PM Rating: Good
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Racial bonuses (passive or active powers, not listing skill bonuses):

Altmer: +50 Magicka and tenfold magicka regeneration for 60 seconds.

Argonian: water breathing, 50% resist to Disease, tenfold health regeneration for 60 seconds.

Bosmer: 50% resist to Disease and Poison, ability to command an animal to help you for 60 seconds.

Breton: 25% magic resistance, absorb 50% magicka from hostile spells for 60 seconds.

Dunmer: 50% resist to Fire, ability to shroud themselves with fire for 60 seconds (8 dps).

Imperial: Increased gold from containers, ability to calm nearby enemies for 60 seconds.

Khajiit: Claw attacks (+15 in hand to hand), improved night vision for 60 seconds.

Nord: 50% resist to Frost, ability to send a target running for 30 seconds.

Orc: Deal double damage and take half for 60 seconds.

Redguard: 50% resist to Poison, tenfold stamina regeneration for 60 seconds.


Quick and easy analysis of skills:
Traditional archer skillset: Bosmer (Ranger), Khajiit (all-range thief)
Traditional sword-and-board warrior skillset: Imperial
Rounded warrior skillset: Redguard
Two-handed warrior skillset: Nord
Traditional thief skillset: Argonian
Traditional mage skillset: Altmer, Breton (Altmer are more offensive, Breton more qdefensive)
Adaptable fighter skillset: Orc (one- or two-handed weapons, block and heavy armor)


All classes get +10 to a major skill, +5 to 5 minor skills. Definitely nothing to make or break any class. But it will change what perks will be immediately available to you. Not a problem if you are willing to sit on perk points.
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#19 Nov 08 2011 at 9:36 PM Rating: Good
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Zomg, one of the early release copies has confirmed that you can be infected with lycanthropy, so I was wrong. :D :D :D
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#20 Nov 08 2011 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
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Either Bosmer, Dunmer, or Khajiit. I prefer to start with a Dark Brotherhood-type character, but want to definitely include archery. How has stealth changed for Skyrim?
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Also, this releases at 11pm Thursday on Steam. Still can't decide if I'm going to be staying up all night and skipping work on Friday or not. >_>

edit: It is available for preload on steam now btw. Go ahead and get it downloaded early! :D

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There are now 4 "eye" levels. Closed means that they are unaware, partially open means that they know something's out there, almost open means that they are searching for you, an open eye means that the enemy has found you (and at both extremes, you'll get a notice of "hidden" or "detected").

Much better than the yes-or-no nature of the previous games.

They've also made it so that it's much more important to stay in shadows (or, I guess it would be better to say that the game means that shadows are much easier to identify).

And don't forget that they added Sneak perks.
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#23 Nov 08 2011 at 11:05 PM Rating: Good
I like the FO3-NV perk system. That should be an interesting way to build. I don't really care about min/max as much usually in single player games. But I usually end up seeing the synergies and building some good stuff anyway. It will be interesting to see how much the game punishes you for terrible builds and whatnot.

I had to play FO NV on hard/hardcore for my second play through to keep it challenging. And even then it was only challenging until I was decked out with good perks. Then I steam rolled again.

I imagine I will play on normal for Skyrim on my first play through anyway until I am comfortable with the new system.

Edited, Nov 8th 2011 9:05pm by Shojindo
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I'm going for a stealthy character.

I hope they haven't made the NPCs quite so touchy about talking to them with weapons drawn. So many times I would end up getting myself in trouble for that. The biggest thing I am hoping for is that the voice acting is more.. reliable? standard? compared to oblivion. Drove me nuts when a beggar started off with like a thick cockney accent and then had no accent at all when they answered a question. Just messed with the flow of the experience imo.
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From the "Making Of" trailer, it sounds like there have been huge improvements in the voice acting since that was a complaint of Oblivion that also disturbed the immersion of the game. They have something like 70+ actors doing 110+ voices- oh, and Christopher Plummer has his voice in this game.

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i've been anticipating this one for awhile; bethesda's put out some awesome trailers along the way.

i'll prolly start with a big 2h sword nord and stick to the main quest. after that, who knows?
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From the "Making Of" trailer, it sounds like there have been huge improvements in the voice acting since that was a complaint of Oblivion that also disturbed the immersion of the game. They have something like 50 actors doing 120 voices- oh, and Christopher Plummer has his voice in this game.

That's good to hear. I always just tried to pretend that the person was only using that accent to make people feel more sympathetic for them and that the 2nd voice was how they really sounded.
#29 Nov 09 2011 at 11:31 AM Rating: Good
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I'm going for a stealthy character.

I hope they haven't made the NPCs quite so touchy about talking to them with weapons drawn. So many times I would end up getting myself in trouble for that. The biggest thing I am hoping for is that the voice acting is more.. reliable? standard? compared to oblivion. Drove me nuts when a beggar started off with like a thick cockney accent and then had no accent at all when they answered a question. Just messed with the flow of the experience imo.


Joan Allen is doing some voices too. I LOVE her voice.
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Joan Allen is doing some voices too. I LOVE her voice.

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max von sydow and michael hogan. hogan was frackin' incredible in bsg.
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Some amazing examples of animations and spell effects (don't watch if you want to be surprised by finishers):
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iLLJwInYhd0]

Here's a video Bethesda released on sound with music and VA interviews with developers and such:
[youtube=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QLnPwnJJcFQ#!]

Plummer is particularly amazing.

I'M SO F*CKING EXCITED.
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I have to admit, the commercial that they've been airing kinda gives me goosebumps. Smiley: smile
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#34 Nov 09 2011 at 2:21 PM Rating: Good
I haven't been this excited for a game in a long time. I'm busy as **** at work this week and none of it seems to matter. My mind is already at Friday, strapping on armor and picking up my first pitted and rusty sword.

*rotates sword in hand, this will do... for a start.
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I haven't been this excited for a game in a long time. I'm busy as **** at work this week and none of it seems to matter. My mind is already at Friday, strapping on armor and picking up my first pitted and rusty sword.

*rotates sword in hand, this will do... for a start.


I know this feeling so well. It's exactly where I am. Which is a serious issue, because I don't have an overlord policing what I do.
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I have to admit, the commercial that they've been airing kinda gives me goosebumps. Smiley: smile

Same here. I was watching a video the other day and it started with one of those "skip after 5 seconds" ads. Within those 5 seconds, I decided to watch it all, and the best part was the end: Skyrim. Had no idea it was an ad for it. It was great.
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I have to admit, the commercial that they've been airing kinda gives me goosebumps. Smiley: smile

Same here. I was watching a video the other day and it started with one of those "skip after 5 seconds" ads. Within those 5 seconds, I decided to watch it all, and the best part was the end: Skyrim. Had no idea it was an ad for it. It was great.


When we first saw it on TV, my fiance was totally immersed in some work she was doing on the computer. Totally in the zone. The commercial came on, and she immediately looked up to watch it, and after a few seconds, said "Is this the new Game of Thrones"?

At the end, when I told her it was a game I'd be getting, she asked if she could play it. And she doesn't play any video games.
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I have to admit, the commercial that they've been airing kinda gives me goosebumps. Smiley: smile

Same here. I was watching a video the other day and it started with one of those "skip after 5 seconds" ads. Within those 5 seconds, I decided to watch it all, and the best part was the end: Skyrim. Had no idea it was an ad for it. It was great.


When we first saw it on TV, my fiance was totally immersed in some work she was doing on the computer. Totally in the zone. The commercial came on, and she immediately looked up to watch it, and after a few seconds, said "Is this the new Game of Thrones"?

At the end, when I told her it was a game I'd be getting, she asked if she could play it. And she doesn't play any video games.


And Bethesda's ruined another life. :D
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I have to admit, the commercial that they've been airing kinda gives me goosebumps. Smiley: smile

Same here. I was watching a video the other day and it started with one of those "skip after 5 seconds" ads. Within those 5 seconds, I decided to watch it all, and the best part was the end: Skyrim. Had no idea it was an ad for it. It was great.


When we first saw it on TV, my fiance was totally immersed in some work she was doing on the computer. Totally in the zone. The commercial came on, and she immediately looked up to watch it, and after a few seconds, said "Is this the new Game of Thrones"?

At the end, when I told her it was a game I'd be getting, she asked if she could play it. And she doesn't play any video games.


And Bethesda's ruined another life. :D


Bethesda's been ruining lives since Daggerfall.

I still play Daggerfall, patiently waiting for the completion of DaggerXL.

Edited, Nov 9th 2011 3:35pm by Raolan
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It's taking ALL of my energy to keep myself from loading up an earlier game to kill time. I NEED to work, dammit.

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Instead I've been editing out grammar mistakes on the Elder Scrolls wiki. It feels more productive.

And for the love of language, I REALLY hope the people typing many of these are foreign. So many have no clue how to properly use tenses.
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It's taking ALL of my energy to keep myself from loading up an earlier game to kill time. I NEED to work, dammit.

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Instead I've been editing out grammar mistakes on the Elder Scrolls wiki. It feels more productive.

And for the love of language, I REALLY hope the people typing many of these are foreign. So many have no clue how to properly use tenses.


You don't want to go there...trust me. =X
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IGN review is up, and it's a good way to get even more excited for tonight/tomorrow.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/121/1212033p1.html
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GAH. Bioware just sent me an email saying that I could test The Old Republic from the 11th to the 13th.

GAAAAAAAAH.

I have so little free time!

Okay, so I'm going to be playing Star Wars while playing Skyrim while doing work.
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I prefer Game Revolution for my reviews. They're a smaller site, but I've found that they have the most honest reviews online. If they like a game, it's worth checking out. They gave Skyrim an A, which for them is highly unusual.

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I prefer Game Revolution for my reviews. They're a smaller site, but I've found that they have the most honest reviews online. If they like a game, it's wworth checking out. They gave Skyrim an A, which for them is highly unusual.


GameTrailers typically has the best reviews that I've seen when it comes to getting the nuts & bolts of a game and whether or not it's worth a purchase. They're very thorough. Haven't tried Game Revolution, though.

IGN is solid, but sometimes their reviews seem to suffer from being rushed. I wasn't pleased to learn that Battlefield 3 on the PS3 had major issues that went wholly unreported on the site, such as connection issues, and the fact that microphone communication simply did not work. Still doesn't. Now, nobody's even trying to use them anymore, so the game will likely be silent in perpetuity. It's a bit frustrating, and you'd think it'd come up in reviews, but not so much.

Still, it's good to hear that Skyrim is being well-received. I'm getting quite psyched.
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I love how literally EVERY review site notes that Skyrim is extremely buggy (which should suprise no one), but that the bugs don't even remotely detract from the game in any meaningful way. The most I've seen deducted so far is half a point. Smiley: lol
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Yup. Most of them just seem typical humorous stuff (like corpses flying through the air and stuff).
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which trailer are they playing on tv? the live action one?
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Yup. Most of them just seem typical humorous stuff (like corpses flying through the air and stuff).


I dunno, I've seen some F'd up glitches in F:NV...exorcist stuff. Horror game developers would do well to incorporate some of Bethesda's glitchy code.
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My favorite bug from Bethesda software game was the old Daggerfall bug where you fell out of the dungeon. Nothing like walking around the black void and being able to explore the dungeon, but never get back into the dungeon.

Elder Scroll games are always buggy and always fun at least for me.
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Yup. Most of them just seem typical humorous stuff (like corpses flying through the air and stuff).


I dunno, I've seen some F'd up glitches in F:NV...exorcist stuff. Horror game developers would do well to incorporate some of Bethesda's glitchy code.


I saw one reviewer mention that his bride to be showed up on his wedding day without eyes.

Smiley: lol
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