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#52 Sep 15 2011 at 11:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Edit: Afterthought: In my opinion, Blu-Ray is to Movies as 60+ Frames-Per-Second are to Games: Completely unnecessary.

Sorry to say, but you're wrong. Games running at 60+FPS makes a huge difference, and it has nothing to do with your eyeball.


And if he's alluding to the idea that the human eye can't perceive greater than 30 FPS in games, he's incorrect. That appears to be nothing more than a very pervasive myth.

I <3 60 FPS in shooters.
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Edit: Afterthought: In my opinion, Blu-Ray is to Movies as 60+ Frames-Per-Second are to Games: Completely unnecessary.

Sorry to say, but you're wrong. Games running at 60+FPS makes a huge difference, and it has nothing to do with your eyeball.


And if he's alluding to the idea that the human eye can't perceive greater than 30 FPS in games, he's incorrect. That appears to be nothing more than a very pervasive myth.

I <3 60 FPS in shooters.


I never said anything about 30 FPS.

I said 60 FPS.

Anything above that, is going to go (mostly) unnoticed.

It is why I set MaxFPS in WoW to 60-ish. It runs anywhere between 59.9 and 64.9 and I never notice any sort of jerking, or anything unless I just teleported in somewhere, or lots of spell effects going off simultaneously.

Once you get up around 60 FPS, adding any more FPS doesn't make much of any visual difference.

Try it in WoW: Turn your MaxFPS off. Measure your FPS, hopefully you can do 100+. If you can't, lower the settings temporarily until you can. Walk around in some empty area where there's no people. Spin around, etc.

Then, slide your MaxFPS slider until you average about 60 FPS and then start walking around, spin around, etc.

Guess what? You probably won't notice the difference in the movement much at all. It'll appear just as smooth at 60FPS as it does at 100+ FPS.
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RE: Blu-Ray:

Perhaps that's why it didn't look any different, perhaps the TV itself wasn't 1080p. If that's true, then the person was an idiot for wasting his money on an expensive player that his TV couldn't even take the full advantage of, lol.

*shrug*

All I know, is that for all the hype, it sure didn't look all that much different, if different at all.

But maybe someday when they're a little cheaper, I'll give it a try on something larger, or my monitor whichever.

Maybe when the movies themselves aren't no $25 a pop.

As for me needing glasses, I do have mild myopia (I can do day-to-day tasks fine, but I'm required to wear glasses while driving a car), but I wasn't standing that far away from the TV... like... 5 feet?

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#55 Sep 15 2011 at 3:31 PM Rating: Good
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I said 60 FPS.


Apologies.

To the rest though: WoW isn't going to show you the differences at frames per second over 60. You'd need a high-end FPS or a benchmark test.
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#56 Sep 15 2011 at 4:36 PM Rating: Good
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It ultimately depends on the refresh rate of your monitor. As refresh rates get higher, you can see a difference. But it doesn't really matter if your PC can deliver 120 fps is your monitor can only deliver 50.

AFAIK, the cutoff for what the eye can detect, given a monitor capable of refreshing this quickly, is actually well over 100.
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#57 Sep 15 2011 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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There are huge benefits to being a console gamer. It's vastly less expensive in the long run, since you only need to upgrade a system every 6-10 years, rather than constantly upgrading a PC with new parts that are nearly as expensive as a console. Your normal TV will work fine, so you don't need to spend money on a monitor that will only do work for your pc. And, best of all, you'll never be at a disadvantage compared to other players based on your hardware (except, arguably, your TV).


The games are about twice the price.
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There are huge benefits to being a console gamer. It's vastly less expensive in the long run, since you only need to upgrade a system every 6-10 years, rather than constantly upgrading a PC with new parts that are nearly as expensive as a console. Your normal TV will work fine, so you don't need to spend money on a monitor that will only do work for your pc. And, best of all, you'll never be at a disadvantage compared to other players based on your hardware (except, arguably, your TV).


The games are about twice the price.


Depends. The big titles mostly launch at the same price (or only a slight discount). Smaller games do launch cheaper, but that's becoming more common with consoles too, since people can't afford multiple games anymore and are going to choose the better title.

Though PC games do seem to get price drops much faster.

Still though, a PS3 is $250. A decent gaming pc is going to run you at least $800. Even with the price disparity, most gamers won't buy enough games at full price to close that gap. Especially if we include the cost of upgrades.
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The games are about twice the price.

Maybe if you only buy collectors editions. 60 dollars for a game (max) is not twice as much as ps2 games, and if you just wait a few weeks they usually drop in price.
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While that one is a more effective argument, I still prefer the humor of this one:
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#63Overlord Theophany, Posted: Sep 18 2011 at 12:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That's funny.
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#66 Sep 18 2011 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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That's funny.

I mean, it was funny like five years ago.


So you have to hold down a "Control" button (akin to a Windows Key). We all knew that.

But, on a PC mouse, it has TWO buttons. So you're running around in a Portal game, your fingers are going to be on WASD, E, and Space. Let's say you're about to do a complicated Portal Jump.

You place a portal where you want to come out, and then you dive off a ledge and on the way down....

A). PC: Right click for your other portal.
B). Mac: Move your pinky down to the control-click, hold that down and THEN click.

You could say "well fire the right-click portal First!"

But, what if the portal jump involves multiple portals (some do)? You'd still have the dilemma all over again. I could see the potential for lots of mistakes (heck, sometimes I click the wrong button because I forgot which portal I was supposed to shoot! I couldn't imagine having to hold down a control key AND click) in there, easily.

Or, you could reconfigure that one-button mouse to act like a two button, but the problem with that, is sometimes your fingers slide around on the mouse, or you click just a little too close to the center, and get the center button. Again, PC mice are better than Mac Mice -- you always get the right button if you click the right button, you ALWAYS get center button if you push down on the mousewheel (something mac mice don't even have), and you always get left if you push the left mouse button.

I've seen peripherals with "one button" that is designed to sense where on the button you pushed... it isn't always accurate. Not as accurate as having entirely separate buttons, anyways. The mousewheel is also something I've very much come to appreciate. Mousewheels are something that PC mice have had standard for 10+ years, also.

RE: Latest cartoon strip:

That's a bit hypocritical, since Apple's OS is basically a *nix with a special-looking GUI.

Edited, Sep 18th 2011 8:37am by Lyrailis
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Lyrailis wrote:
So you have to hold down a "Control" button (akin to a Windows Key). We all knew that.

Well, you can also set most of the mice to be two side, or you can just go out and buy your own mouse as anyone with a bit of computer sense does, but that isn't the point.

The point is it's a joke.
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Lyrailis wrote:
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Allegory wrote:

That's funny.

I mean, it was funny like five years ago.


So you have to hold down a "Control" button (akin to a Windows Key). We all knew that.

But, on a PC mouse, it has TWO buttons. So you're running around in a Portal game, your fingers are going to be on WASD, E, and Space. Let's say you're about to do a complicated Portal Jump.

You place a portal where you want to come out, and then you dive off a ledge and on the way down....

A). PC: Right click for your other portal.
B). Mac: Move your pinky down to the control-click, hold that down and THEN click.

You could say "well fire the right-click portal First!"

But, what if the portal jump involves multiple portals (some do)? You'd still have the dilemma all over again. I could see the potential for lots of mistakes (heck, sometimes I click the wrong button because I forgot which portal I was supposed to shoot! I couldn't imagine having to hold down a control key AND click) in there, easily.

Or, you could reconfigure that one-button mouse to act like a two button, but the problem with that, is sometimes your fingers slide around on the mouse, or you click just a little too close to the center, and get the center button. Again, PC mice are better than Mac Mice -- you always get the right button if you click the right button, you ALWAYS get center button if you push down on the mousewheel (something mac mice don't even have), and you always get left if you push the left mouse button.

I've seen peripherals with "one button" that is designed to sense where on the button you pushed... it isn't always accurate. Not as accurate as having entirely separate buttons, anyways. The mousewheel is also something I've very much come to appreciate. Mousewheels are something that PC mice have had standard for 10+ years, also.

RE: Latest cartoon strip:

That's a bit hypocritical, since Apple's OS is basically a *nix with a special-looking GUI.

Edited, Sep 18th 2011 8:37am by Lyrailis

Helps to read or know anything about computers. Smiley: rolleyes
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#70 Sep 19 2011 at 3:19 PM Rating: Good
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Overlord Theophany wrote:
Lyrailis wrote:
Overlord Theophany wrote:
Allegory wrote:

That's funny.

I mean, it was funny like five years ago.


So you have to hold down a "Control" button (akin to a Windows Key). We all knew that.

But, on a PC mouse, it has TWO buttons. So you're running around in a Portal game, your fingers are going to be on WASD, E, and Space. Let's say you're about to do a complicated Portal Jump.

You place a portal where you want to come out, and then you dive off a ledge and on the way down....

A). PC: Right click for your other portal.
B). Mac: Move your pinky down to the control-click, hold that down and THEN click.

You could say "well fire the right-click portal First!"

But, what if the portal jump involves multiple portals (some do)? You'd still have the dilemma all over again. I could see the potential for lots of mistakes (heck, sometimes I click the wrong button because I forgot which portal I was supposed to shoot! I couldn't imagine having to hold down a control key AND click) in there, easily.

Or, you could reconfigure that one-button mouse to act like a two button, but the problem with that, is sometimes your fingers slide around on the mouse, or you click just a little too close to the center, and get the center button. Again, PC mice are better than Mac Mice -- you always get the right button if you click the right button, you ALWAYS get center button if you push down on the mousewheel (something mac mice don't even have), and you always get left if you push the left mouse button.

I've seen peripherals with "one button" that is designed to sense where on the button you pushed... it isn't always accurate. Not as accurate as having entirely separate buttons, anyways. The mousewheel is also something I've very much come to appreciate. Mousewheels are something that PC mice have had standard for 10+ years, also.

RE: Latest cartoon strip:

That's a bit hypocritical, since Apple's OS is basically a *nix with a special-looking GUI.

Edited, Sep 18th 2011 8:37am by Lyrailis

Helps to read or know anything about computers. Smiley: rolleyes


Helps to actually point out what I said that was wrong, instead of making some sort of generalized statement saying "Nah UH!"

The only option I didn't cover here, was buying a PC mouse (with an actual mousewheel!) and plugging it into your mac.

But uh, we're still whittling away at the reasons to actually buy a Mac instead of a PC, at least in the desktop arena.

And you've... still contributed nothing towards your side.
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And you've... still contributed nothing towards your side.


Welcome to the typical Mac vs. PC debate.
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Helps to read or know anything about computers. Smiley: rolleyes


Indeed it does. Since you've been so enlightened I'd appreciate it if you bother to start learning so you can actually know something about them. Don't want to bother dealing with nonsensical fanboy **** like your previous posts. Smiley: oyvey
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Lyrailis wrote:
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Helps to read or know anything about computers. Smiley: rolleyes


Helps to actually point out what I said that was wrong, instead of making some sort of generalized statement saying "Nah UH!"

The only option I didn't cover here, was buying a PC mouse (with an actual mousewheel!) and plugging it into your mac.

But uh, we're still whittling away at the reasons to actually buy a Mac instead of a PC, at least in the desktop arena.

And you've... still contributed nothing towards your side.

http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/

http://www.apple.com/magictrackpad/

Totally bro.
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Who in god's name would get a track pad for their desktop?
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Who in god's name would get a track pad for their desktop?


It's cool, stylish, and trendy. So, pretty much every Mac user. That is the whole point of a Mac, isn't it?
#76Overlord Theophany, Posted: Sep 22 2011 at 3:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Because you've only used a PC track pad, obviously you know how one interacts with a Mac, right?
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There are a ton of gestures in OS X that are next to impossible to perform on a mouse

I don't get you. See, I know you played arena in WoW and so I know you own a mouse with more than 2 buttons and a scroll wheel. Why do you choose to ignore than you can do all of this with a mouse?
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Okay, so there's a "magic mouse"... reading that, I don't really see what that could do, that my Naga (or any 5+ button mouse) wouldn't to be very honest with you.

And a trackpad? Eh.

Maybe if you were an artist who likes to draw things? Well, maybe. Otherwise? Again, programmable multi-button mice FTW.

Oh, and Wireless? On a Desktop?

Hahaha......no thanks.

I'll stick with wired. No batteries, no recharging, no worrying about the battery meter, etc.

Oh, and they want $69 for that "magic" mouse... my Naga (with a lot more options, especially for gaming) was only $75 -- $6 more for a superior mouse.

But I'll even break it down further.

on the Magic Mouse's webpage you linked above...

"Click" -- ....ANY mouse does this.

"Two Button Click" -- ... I have to set up the mouse so that it does what every other mouse does?

360* scroll -- My mouse already does that -- push the mousewheel down and you get a + symbol on the screen. Moving the mouse in any direction does exactly what this webpage says the "magic" mouse does.

Screen Zoom -- Quite sure I could set up that feature if I really wanted it, and I wouldn't have to hold a key on my keyboard to do it. With my Naga, I've got 14 buttons not counting the right/left click, heck, I could set those two buttons up next to the left mouse to zoom in, zoom out.

Two Finger Swipe -- Again, with 14 buttons on my Naga... wouldn't be hard to set this sort of thing up, if I'm really too lazy to click the "next" button.

So yeah, really not seeing the "magic" here.

So try again, Theo.
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Who in god's name would get a track pad for their desktop?

Because you've only used a PC track pad, obviously you know how one interacts with a Mac, right?
My sisters' Macbooks have track pads. They're still pains in the **** to use for simple things, like moving the cursor over to where I want to click.

Give me a god dang mouse over a track pad anywhere feasible.
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
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Who in god's name would get a track pad for their desktop?

Because you've only used a PC track pad, obviously you know how one interacts with a Mac, right?
My sisters' Macbooks have track pads. They're still pains in the **** to use for simple things, like moving the cursor over to where I want to click.

Give me a god dang mouse over a track pad anywhere feasible.


Even when mice are not feasible, I'd rather have a trackball than a trackpad.

Hence, why I have one hooked up to my laptop right now.
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Blech, no, I hate trackballs.

I asked my friend (a mac fan) what she thought of the pads. She said she'd never use one on a desktop, but that she knows a bunch of people who absolutely love them. I don't get it.

Sure, I can understand the whole gestures thing. But, at the same time, most of those features exist to help counter the fact that it's harder to do basic things with a trackpad, since your speed and accuracy are vastly reduced. I'd MUCH rather have the precision of a mouse, even for standard browsing/word processing/whatever.
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Okay, so there's a "magic mouse"... reading that, I don't really see what that could do, that my Naga (or any 5+ button mouse) wouldn't to be very honest with you.

I had the same though regarding the "magic" mouse vs my Logitech mouse. Except that I have some odd gestures to do it rather than clicking the buttons.

My tablet uses touch gestures and I've never missed them when using my desktop computer. They strike me as a work-around for not having a keyboard & mouse, not something superior. But that's just me.
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They strike me as a work-around for not having a keyboard & mouse, not something superior. But that's just me.
That's pretty much how I've always seen em too.
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Razer recently announced that a pair of prototype Blades, the company’s upcoming gaming laptop, were stolen in early November in a break-in that appears to have specifically targeted at the prototypes. Razer global marketing director Heathcliffe Hatcher told Kotaku that the thieves left most of the electronics in the office untouched, while the Blades vanished from different parts of the office.

Razer has made a public appeal on Facebook for the return of the laptops, an appeal that Razer told Kotaku was motivated by its need for the testing data from those prototypes. When they were stolen, they were connected to tracking equipment that was monitoring and an ongoing thermal test.

While Razer’s offices were broken into, the thieves did not have to break into the secure lobby of office building where those offices are located. Hatcher told Kotaku that police are waiting to examine the lobby’s security card records, although it seems a bit strange that they have not yet done so when the break-in occurred on November 5th.

In the meantime, Razer wants everyone to be on the lookout for the stolen Blades. It’ll be the sexy, thin laptop with the glowing triad of snakes on the lid. Any tips about the theft should should be directed to cult [at] razerone [dot] com.


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