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#1 Jul 29 2011 at 2:13 PM Rating: Good
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So with the lackluster performance of the 3DS, is anyone here looking forward to the Vita?

I have a PSP that I bought at launch and I only play it some of the time, I think the reflective screen is what bothers me the most (it's hard to see in sunlight). I heard the newer versions of the PSP are better for this and the Vita may be better still.

I'm going to wait for some reviews on the hardware, but I have a feeling I'll be getting one if only for the new Uncharted game.
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#2 Jul 29 2011 at 2:15 PM Rating: Good
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I am, for the first time since my parents bought me a Sega Game Gear, considering a portable system.

I like the price point, and now that I'm commuting I'm finding a lot of time for portable gaming. Smart phone games aren't evolving as fast as I'd like...there just aren't enough varied or AAA gaming options. I'm not up on Nintendo (haven't owned a system of their since the N64), so a PSP seems like it'd be the hypothetical way to go.

I'll be awaiting the reviews, but if they come out decent, and I've got some spare cash, then I might roll with it.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 4:17pm by Eske
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I'm waiting to find out just what it's capable of. If it's backwards compatible with PSP and PS1 (which if it's one, then likely will be the other), and all reports point to it being so, then I'll pick it up. If it ends up being PS2 compatible, I'll line up on release night to pick one up.

Also, first gen always easiest to ... engineer.
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If it's backwards compatible with PSP and PS1 (which if it's one, then likely will be the other)


How would it be backwards compatible with the PS1? Would you install the game on the handheld?

ETA: I guess the same goes for the PSP games, since it won't have a UMD drive.

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Sure, you can already play PS1 games on PSPGo, the easiest method is buying it off the Playstation Network. I don't see why Sony would be retarded enough not to add another feature that would only make them more money.

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I see, so I'd have to buy them again. I thought there would be some way to use the ones I already paid for.

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Of course, and I'm speaking purely hypothetically here of a situation from an alternative dimension, but if the PS Vita uses memory sticks like the PSP, then you might not have to buy them again. But, like I said, that's PURELY hypothetically because, as we all know, you can't do that kind of thing on the PSP.
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I'm gonna wait for the 3rd edition, the one whose 3G network isn't run by AT&T.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 5:25pm by Shaowstrike
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I'm on the fence about 3G gaming overall... not sure it'll be worth the monthly data fee.
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I'm gonna wait for the 3rd edition, the one whose 3G network isn't run by AT&T.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 5:25pm by Shaowstrike


I still don't understand why they thought this was a good idea. I mean, do they REALLY expect gamers to be willing to change their cell plans to take advantage of this (not to mention the fact that the competition doesn't use sim cards, so you'd need to buy a new phone too)? Some will, of course, and maybe more will when their contracts actually expire. But breaking the contract to switch is a sizable additional cost.

It's just so f*cking stupid.

Also, I've never been able to play any handheld in sunlight. I have a DSLite--did the later versions have some kind of new technology?

But yeah, I'd definitely like a PSVita. I've wanted a PSP for a while now, but just not quite enough to actually spend the money.
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I'd like to borrow one for a weekend so I can play the new Uncharted game, then return it.
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I'm gonna wait for the 3rd edition, the one whose 3G network isn't run by AT&T.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 5:25pm by Shaowstrike


I still don't understand why they thought this was a good idea. I mean, do they REALLY expect gamers to be willing to change their cell plans to take advantage of this (not to mention the fact that the competition doesn't use sim cards, so you'd need to buy a new phone too)? Some will, of course, and maybe more will when their contracts actually expire. But breaking the contract to switch is a sizable additional cost.

It's just so f*cking stupid.


Could it have something to do with Verizon's recent posturing on unlimited data plans, perhaps?
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Shouldn't have any realistic affect--AT&T doesn't offer an unlimited plan, afaik. The only people with an unlimited plan are those who had one for a while before they got rid of them and threatened to move to Verizon if they didn't get to keep it.

And even after this change, Verizon's max data plan will be 10gb, while AT&T is still topped at 4gb.

They shouldn't have signed an exclusive deal with anyone, given the fact that this isn't even a cell phone. I'd be less irritated if they signed an exclusive deal with Verizon, though, because AT&T sucks.
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Shouldn't have any realistic affect--AT&T doesn't offer an unlimited plan, afaik. The only people with an unlimited plan are those who had one for a while before they got rid of them and threatened to move to Verizon if they didn't get to keep it.

And even after this change, Verizon's max data plan will be 10gb, while AT&T is still topped at 4gb.

They shouldn't have signed an exclusive deal with anyone, given the fact that this isn't even a cell phone. I'd be less irritated if they signed an exclusive deal with Verizon, though, because AT&T sucks.


Ah, I didn't know that AT&T didn't offer an unlimited plan.

I'd probably be getting the non-3G model anyway, methinks.

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I'll get the 3G model and pay for the darn data plan if they actually manage to pull off putting FFXI on it.
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About 1 or 2 times a year the power goes out here from wind storms, and in my desperation for something digital I remember I have a PSP. So I scamper off to the den and dust off the padded cover. Hooray I think! I always wanted to finish this game.

I fire it up and sit with a blanket wondering how the interwebs are doing while I'm gone. 5 minutes later the battery dies becuase I forgot to charge it. Suddenly I feel like that guy in the Twilight zone who is the last man on earth but breaks his glasses before he can get down to reading some good books.

Oh yeah books! So I do that instead.

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#17 Jul 30 2011 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
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I have a DS. It's okay, but I wish I had a PSP. :( The touchscreen thing doesn't do it for me--I only chose it for Zelda and pokemon, honestly. And the 2 zelda offerings have kinda, well, sucked. At least compared to previous incarnations.
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Ha haaaaaah, thread bump.

Some info from Gamescom, Ubisoft is going to make an original Assassin's Creed for Vita.

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Sony also announced another price drop for the PS3. 249.99 for the 160GB model and 299.99 for the 320GB model. If I didn't already own one, I'd be seriously tempted by this.
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There's a new LBP trailer up over at kotaku. Looking pretty great, actually--they've REALLY worked hard to make use of the Vita's features.
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Anybody been paying attention to the Vita developments from TGS? There was a lot of info put out. Some thoughts:

  • Remote play sounds great, I'll be able to keep playing even if the fiance bounces me off the TV to watch The Real Housewives of Some City.
  • Why such big cases for such tiny 'cartridges'?
  • Battery life for gaming was given as around 3-ish hours. Not so good. I was initially disappointed, but then they announced that the battery can be supplemented at additional cost. Works for me...I can save that purchase for when I decide to take a long flight. The regular battery life will suit just fine for commuting.
  • Not crazy about the UI, from the screenshot that I've seen of it. I've always liked the sleek, techy, and minimalistic look of the XMB. The Vita's doesn't seem to capture that.
  • I don't care about augmented reality. The tech is getting there, but the utility isn't there to necessitate it.


I think I'm gonna get this one. The developer support looks like it'll be there, and the initial lineup looks fairly strong. Handheld Uncharted sounds glorious. Maybe I can finagle it into being a birthday present or something, depending on the release.

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Battery life for gaming was given as around 3-ish hours. Not so good. I was initially disappointed, but then they announced that the battery can be supplemented at additional cost. Works for me...I can save that purchase for when I decide to take a long flight. The regular battery life will suit just fine for commuting.


I saw 3-5, with 5 being what you should expect for a standard screen brightness. Could definitely be wrong though, and I'm too lazy to go link hunting. Still worse than the 3DS, but I'm vastly more excited for this system.
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I saw 3-5, with 5 being what you should expect for a standard screen brightness. Could definitely be wrong though, and I'm too lazy to go link hunting. Still worse than the 3DS, but I'm vastly more excited for this system.


Yeah, IIRC it was 5 with the brightness down, Wi-Fi off, accelerometer off, etc. Something like that.

Really though, I just knock down battery estimates by a couple hours, anyway. I've always found official projections to be overly optimistic.

But being able to purchase an extra battery thing (or whatever it was they offered, I can't remember) takes care of that concern for me. I'd only be running the thing into red during flights (which I rarely take) so I can just buy a supplemental battery if/when I feel like it. Suits me just fine.

I'm liking what I'm hearing thus far.
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And it's not so much a problem with Sony. It's a problem with our energy needs increasing way faster than battery technology (at least in relation to reasonable costs).

Overall, it seems like Sony's going all out to deliver a solid product.
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Awwww man, if our microwave hadn't crashed and burned over the weekend, I'd go get a PS3 today.

(We're kicking ourselves for not paying the extra $100 for a warranty at the point of sale on the microwave, and will rectify that much this afternoon, especially since we now have to pay for removal of the old one AND installation of the new one. My husband and I are both too technically inept to install a basic appliance... it was Lahurah who installed it the first time, and it took all three of us to lift it in place above the range. Making the store install it also means if they accidentally drop it on the stove, they're the ones on the hook for replacing a $500 range top on top of a $300 microwave.)
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Sort of thinking about wanting one of these...
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I'm on the fence for the first time ever regarding picking up a new system. It's not necessary the Vita's fault for my indecision either. I'm of the mixed belief that portable handhelds like the 3DS and Vita are no longer feasible because of the tablets and smart phone apps.

The Vita is targeting the hardcore demographic, same as the PSP. While I love the PSP, it never sold worth a **** and that concerns me. Again, there is not a **** thing wrong with the Vita. I just think handhelds are on the way out for the hardcore market. I'm predicting the kids will keep the 3DS alive now that it's dropped to a decent price. However, the Vita is a hardcore uber portable and I can't say I know of anyone my age that would bring one along when they can just mess with their phones if were on the road or whatever.

Uncharted Vita is total *** though. I'm so hoping that I'm wrong about my gut feelings.
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I've yet to see a tablet or smartphone app that can touch a full game on a dedicated gaming machine. Personally, I just don't game on the go, so a handheld isn't really something that I need. I wold love to play me some Uncharted though.
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That's true, but at the same time those games cost $1-2. For the cost of a single game on a handheld console, you can get 15-30 games on a phone or tablet.

However, I don't think this generation is the death of handheld consoles. The Vita is getting A LOT of investment from Sony--they seem to be going all out to provide quality features and quality games. And the fact that you can buy a 3G version to take advantage of web features helps it in this new market.
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I just don't game on the go, so a handheld isn't really something that I need.


That, and if I'm on the go I have the whole internet at my fingertips, and that is often just as entertaining as a game if not more so.

Hopefully the Vita joystick nub thingies are a lot better than PSP's.
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Bubble Pop is my go-to phone game. Brainless and it was free.

If I'm on a handheld, though, it's gonna be during things like road trips, or days I'm too sick to get out of bed (haven't had one of those in a few years, thankfully.) Bubble Pop gets stale after about ten minutes. I can spend quite a few hours of quality time with a good handheld game.
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All good responses as why Vita can be a success. I'm still skeptical though because of the direction of the electronic industry. Tablets have become all the rage lately for some reason and while I don't see smart phones or tablets replacing the Vita in terms of quality of games, I don't see much use for Vita's 3G option outside of gaming reasons. The original PSP is still a niche handheld and tablets/smart phones blown the doors off units sold. Again, I'd be stupid to argue the power or the appeal of the Vita, I'm just wondering if enough people will pick it up. I'm on the fence for picking it up myself because I doubt I'd use it for very much. Honestly I'd probably use it more for a PS3 controller than games on the PSP or Vita.

So I have to wonder if it's just me based the responses so far. I've had tons of handhelds going back to the Tiger handhelds, the original Gameboy, and up to the DS Lite/PSP systems. I don't get much use out of my handhelds right now and it's not because there isn't any games for them.

Basically I'm looking for an excuse to buy it. Uncharted alone makes me want to pick it up. Anyone else in my boots or am I all by myself here?
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this is pretty impressive:
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Neat looking game, but I'm not sure what impressive about it.
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Reminds me of Dreamcast's Record of Lodoss War*, which was fun as all ****.

Yes, I'm aware it was a Diablo clone.
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It's an alternative to the 3DS, and I suspect a lot of people who purposely avoided the 3DS are going to snag a Vita as their next handheld. The shortcomings of the 3DS are exactly what I was talking about in regards to time - if I'm on a handheld, I'm going to be on it for the long hours. I don't see much point in a handheld device that causes eyestrain to the point where you can only play it for an hour at a time without a headache. It won't help me one bit on our next twelve hour drive to Canada.
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I almost have trouble imagining the Vita as an alternative to a 3DS--they seem like completely different things to me. That's probably unfair, but maybe not. The Vita's more of a multimedia device.

Except it's not just media, you'll also be able to access things like Skype off of it. Definitely not bad features to have.

I think the Vita's still in the running as a result. There are still enough people looking for handheld systems to be interested by it's gaming-centric features, and enough additional content to get the people on the fence interested as well. The 3DS focused on a gimmick (and, imo, one most people don't care about yet) to try and sway people to it. It was a bad call.

Hopefully, Sony won't make the same mistake.
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Neat looking game, but I'm not sure what impressive about it.


the polygons and animations look really smooove, imho.
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Bump!

I thought about starting a new thread, but I think this is a little more appropriate.

I have decided not to buy a Vita, at least for now. They have a solid lineup of games, which is huge, but I have 2 problems that should be fixed with time.

1. The screen has a huge amount of glare, making it next to impossible to play outside. I don't know why they did this, but what's the point of having a handheld system that's useless outdoors? They need to fix this.
2. Price. Sorry, but I can't justify $300 for a handheld.

Anyone out there buying one?
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I'm not very fond of it's tendency to spy on it's customers.
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Fair ball. I'm not too concerned about that; I don't plan on pirating games.
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The "expensive, proprietary memory" thing has turned me off a bit, but I also got a Kindle Fire for Christmas which is satisfying my need for something to while away the commuting hours. But I'm still keeping an eye on the Vita, so we'll see a little after the release.
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i will be getting one in the summer, i have decided to stop buying first gen ****. But yes I am looking forward to one, and no i think the 3DS is a neat device, it is nothing super special but it is kinda cool.
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It's been confirmed that the U.S. 3G Vitas will be carrier locked to AT&T, looks like it's WiFi only for me.

http://kotaku.com/5875390/the-playstation-vita-is-locked-to-att
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If I was going to get one, I never really considered the 3G anyways.

I'll likely wait for the price to drop before getting one, as it's a little pricy for me at the moment.
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The "expensive, proprietary memory" thing has turned me off a bit, but I also got a Kindle Fire for Christmas which is satisfying my need for something to while away the commuting hours. But I'm still keeping an eye on the Vita, so we'll see a little after the release.


Does it use the sony memory sticks? It's the same with PSP but it still sucks ballz....

Anyway I won't be getting one until the price drops, and with how much things change and how quickly, I'd rather wait a generation or two till the technology stabilizes

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The "expensive, proprietary memory" thing has turned me off a bit, but I also got a Kindle Fire for Christmas which is satisfying my need for something to while away the commuting hours. But I'm still keeping an eye on the Vita, so we'll see a little after the release.


Does it use the sony memory sticks? It's the same with PSP but it still sucks ballz...


Some sort of new Sony format. I'm not entirely sure of the specifics, but I recall something of that sort. I know that it's proprietary, and that it's overpriced for memory, though.
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#50 Jan 12 2012 at 5:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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also this... ugh. Sorry not interested in the Vita at all till this is fixed:

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There's no more confusion about whether or not the PS Vita will run PSOne Classics and other "Game Archives" games (that's the umbrella term used in Japan for Sony's retro games -- PSOne and PC Engine/Turbografx-16, along with, presumably, PS2) at launch. Unfortunately, the answer to that lingering question is a firm, and bewildering, no.

The Japanese Vita FAQ, which initially noted that the Vita will play all downloadable PSP games except for Archives releases, cemented that in an answer to the direct question of whether or not the device will support old downoaded games. According to the FAQ, Game Archives games will not be compatible with the device at launch. "Plans for future measures will be announced shortly," the (Google-translated) FAQ notes.



http://www.joystiq.com/2011/11/28/psone-classics-and-other-game-archives-wont-work-on-vita-at-lau/

I will get a Vita only if it can play ALL of the games I've already bought as downloads AND only if it will play PS2 classics as well. Until that happens, ff that.
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