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#27 Jun 07 2011 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
Despite the shun for the system throughout the gamecube generation that system was my favorite. I played a lot of ps2 games. I had 3 games for my xbox(A christmas gift I never wanted.). Going into the current gen I was most excited for the wii. Didn't much for the other two systems. Neither offer any games that made me want to go out and buy it. All 3 systems came out I got none at launch.(Mainly due to being impossible to find a ******* wii) I finally got one. Got one game beside wii sports that came with it. And didn't do much with it for awhile. I ended up playing last gen games more. I slowly expanded my collections of games for it but surprisingly 360 became my favorite this go around. I have roughly the same amount of games for both systems but I play my 360 more, even when you take out the mmos I play on it.


That all being said, very little wows me these days with new systems. It will always come down to the games that are on it and what they can do with the hardware. Right now all I get out of this new wii is the phrase "That's interesting."
#28 Jun 08 2011 at 12:56 AM Rating: Good
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I'm actually sort of excited about that. Tentatively, at least. :)

Same here. My wife, not so much. "That's money we don't have to spend on something we don't need."
Start putting away money now, IMO. Preferably generated by giving up some vice she hates. $5-10 here and there that you would have spent on something else and at least you'll be able to argue the first part.
#29 Jun 08 2011 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
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I'm actually sort of excited about that. Tentatively, at least. :)

Same here. My wife, not so much. "That's money we don't have to spend on something we don't need."
Start putting away money now, IMO. Preferably generated by giving up some vice she hates. $5-10 here and there that you would have spent on something else and at least you'll be able to argue the first part.

Only one problem with that: the vice that she hates that I would be giving up is FFXI, and I only got back into it this past Saturday after quitting 19 months ago. However, my counter argument is that she spends $80 a month just on her nails, so I should be able to get away with spending $13 on an online game.

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Wife & I keep saying the same thing. I'll make you a deal: if we ever win the lottery, I'll buy you a Wii U after I get my own, and even throw in an extra game. :)
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#30 Jun 08 2011 at 2:24 AM Rating: Good
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Microsoft and Sony keep trying to tell me my own pc, only less powerful. Why would I play TF2 on the 260 when I could play a completely superior version on my pc? Why would I play Mass Effect on a console when I can play a completely superior version on my pc?

There is a large amount of redundancy between a PS3/360 and my current pc. There is almost no redundancy for me with a Wii. The Wii might not offer you anything you want, but at least it doesn't offer you only what you already have.
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It's true. I mean, I don't even think Halo is the best game ever.
#31 Jun 08 2011 at 3:35 AM Rating: Good
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However, my counter argument is that she spends $80 a month just on her nails, so I should be able to get away with spending $13 on an online game.
Sounds like your problems are worse than I thought.

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#32 Jun 08 2011 at 4:54 AM Rating: Default
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Another Nintendo console with a silly gimmicky controller. I'll pass.

QFT.


So, basically anything after the SNES?


I believe Nintendo cares more about the uniqueness in their controllers than anything else when designing a new system. I distinctly remembering saying to myself that the 64, gamecube and Wii controllers were the dumbest controllers ever and fell in love with every single one (not the wii so much, haven't played it often).

The thing that typically separates Nintendo from others is the gaming content. Other systems have traditionally focused on the hardware. That's why the PSP, or any other handheld, has ever taken over the gameboy, no matter how much more powerful they were.

I'll probably end up getting the system as well, but I'll wait after people stop killing themselves, hijacking prices, etc. before I get it.
#33 Jun 08 2011 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Al has terrible taste in games. He's just the sort of person Nintendo loves.

It's true. I mean, I don't even think Halo is the best game ever.


Neither does anyone with a shred of taste. Halo has always been a fairly generic shooter with a half decent story.

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Microsoft and Sony keep trying to tell me my own pc, only less powerful. Why would I play TF2 on the 260 when I could play a completely superior version on my pc? Why would I play Mass Effect on a console when I can play a completely superior version on my pc?


A lot of games that are cross platform nowadays generally get released on consoles first. They also tend to get DLC first. On top of that since the only real difference between different models of the same console is HD size, devs don't have to worry about making their games work with a huge variety of hardware, making console games generally more stable at launch. On top of all of that, with a console you never have to worry about whether or not your machine can even play the game. Not to mention the plethora of console games that never get PC release at all. To top it all of there isn't a console out there that doesn't cost a fraction of what a decent gaming PC costs. Hell, just a mid range video card costs more than any of the current gen consoles.

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#34 Jun 08 2011 at 8:45 AM Rating: Good
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I'm all for them trying new things, but I still think the Wii sucked. Look at Move and Kinect--both are better products for a console that wasn't designed FOR motion control. I'm happy to give the Wii credit for mainstreaming the idea, but I still think their design was awful. I mean, look how shortly after launch they released the higher-sensitivity attachment...


Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.
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#35 Jun 08 2011 at 9:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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Eh. Wii was one of my (personal) worst purchases ever. I wasted $300 on a system that I decided soon after I disliked. I played Zelda, and that was it - nothing else caught my attention.

PS2 was and remains my favorite system and best purchase ever. Closely followed by PS1 and SNES (simply for all the amazing games I had on it). The latest systems, I agree with Al, all seemed to say "Look, we're a more expensive and inferior version of your computer, play me, play me!" Wii was different... but I still didn't like it.

This one, eh. It looks better than Wii, but Wii looked better to me than a PS3 or 360, so my powers of prediction, even when it comes to my own choices, fall short.
#36 Jun 08 2011 at 10:58 AM Rating: Excellent
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And so it begins.

Nintendo Used PS3 and 360 Footage in Press Conference

http://wii.ign.com/articles/117/1174313p1.html
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#37 Jun 08 2011 at 11:06 AM Rating: Good
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Gaming is too subjective to really compare. Yeah you can compare specs and what not but it really comes down to a matter of the persons taste. I like the Wii because I've always been a fan of Nintendo. I don't like playing FPS games on a console so therefore I really have a need for a PS3/360, I'd rather play them on my computer. The only "dancing" game I liked was DDR, so I don't really need to worry about any motion crap, plus the best ddr games are on ps2 which I already have.

But it all comes down to taste.

As for the Wii U itself. The name is pretty lame. I'm sure they could have come up with something better. I love the idea of being able to take a game to a handheld to turn off the tv for a bit, or watch something else. The idea of having the touch screen interact with the game is really nice. Being able to even play some simple board games on the controller with a friend or family is also pretty cool too. I really hope that this will play DVDs. I feel that's one major thing Wii is lacking is the support of dvds.
#38 Jun 08 2011 at 11:08 AM Rating: Good
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I'd be happy to be wrong, but right now I feel like Nintendo took a step in the wrong direction.

I disagree. I'm happy to let Sony and Microsoft continue with the trend of high-quality graphics and generic controllers, and let Nintendo experiment with the more gimmicky stuff, which we might learn some things from for the future. I don't see the need for a third console which does the exact same thing as the PS3/360 and only serves to divide the market into yet more exclusive games.


Perhaps so. Personally, I wonder how viable Nintendo's casual gamer market will be in the long term. I also wonder if, by catering to it, Nintendo will devolve.

Personally, I'd rather have them running in stride with Sony and Microsoft, even if they're going off the beaten path a bit while doing so.

I could be wrong, but we'll have to see.
#39 Jun 08 2011 at 1:06 PM Rating: Good
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.
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#40 Jun 08 2011 at 1:37 PM Rating: Good
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.
I have to agree with idiggory. From an innovation standpoint, it was a step sideways, but from a functionality standpoint, it has never given me the same problems I had with the Wii.
#41 Jun 08 2011 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
eh, I think I'm going to skip this console. my wii has been collecting dust for a year now and all I ever play is 360 or ps3
#42 Jun 08 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
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idiggory wrote:
The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used.


Agreed 100%. I cant even use it to select videos on netflix w/o it jumping all over the screen.
#43 Jun 08 2011 at 5:02 PM Rating: Good
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.


I remember playing Wii Sports back when it first came out, and how awkward the golfing was for us. The game would occasionally (and by "occasionally", I mean half the time) not recognize the backswing, and so when you swung forward, nothing would happen. Then, when you brought your hand back down in confusion, the character would swing and blast the ball.

Sure made putting fun.
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I laughed, but now the damn thing is stuck in my head.
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#46 Jun 09 2011 at 1:43 PM Rating: Good
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#47 Jun 10 2011 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
Curse Nintendo for sticking us with "motion" and now walking off to make some now torture device. Now we get the other two craming us up the butt with this stuff. You think the Wii is bad try Heavy Rain with motion control...
#48 Jun 10 2011 at 4:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.


I remember playing Wii Sports back when it first came out, and how awkward the golfing was for us. The game would occasionally (and by "occasionally", I mean half the time) not recognize the backswing, and so when you swung forward, nothing would happen. Then, when you brought your hand back down in confusion, the character would swing and blast the ball.

Sure made putting fun.


The trick with the Wii controller is correct placement of the sensor. I have two friends with a Wii. At one house, the thing works perfectly. At the other, it's like struggling through molasses to get a simple pointer on the screen over a selection. The difference? At the first house, the bar-sensor thingie, is placed on the front of a TV stand under the TV (so about 2.5 feet off the ground). The other home has it placed along the top edge of the TV itself. Not sure if it's the height difference, interference from the TV, or what, but the difference in control is literally night and day.
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#49 Jun 10 2011 at 4:15 PM Rating: Good
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My problem is generally that it jumps all over the screen, even when the controller is just sitting on the coffee table. I've tried moving the sensor, but it will still occasionally have those fits. And it's not just on my parents' Wii--it's done it on every one I've used. Pretty much completely unacceptable when playing a game.
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.


I remember playing Wii Sports back when it first came out, and how awkward the golfing was for us. The game would occasionally (and by "occasionally", I mean half the time) not recognize the backswing, and so when you swung forward, nothing would happen. Then, when you brought your hand back down in confusion, the character would swing and blast the ball.

Sure made putting fun.


The trick with the Wii controller is correct placement of the sensor. I have two friends with a Wii. At one house, the thing works perfectly. At the other, it's like struggling through molasses to get a simple pointer on the screen over a selection. The difference? At the first house, the bar-sensor thingie, is placed on the front of a TV stand under the TV (so about 2.5 feet off the ground). The other home has it placed along the top edge of the TV itself. Not sure if it's the height difference, interference from the TV, or what, but the difference in control is literally night and day.


Go into the settings and change the sensor placement setting. I've had my sensor on top of, and below the screen and never had a problem. The only time you should get problems like that is if it's way above or below the screen, or if you don't change the sensor placement setting.
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Wait... you really think the Move is superior? I mean, I'll give you Kinect, but the Move? I just can't take you seriously now.


I completely stand by my original statement. The Wii controller, even with motion plus, is the most temperamental piece of sh*t I've ever used. I'm not saying Move is innovative (at all, really), but its 3D positioning was perfect when I used it. The Wii is consistently awful, and you need to stop to recalibrate it every 10 minutes.

Okay, maybe I'm exaggerating a little. But not enough to invalidate my point. The Wii controller is crap. Without the increased sensitivity, it's even crappier crap.


I think you got a dud. Seriously. I've never had to deal with that with the 2 I have.

ETA: After reading further, I realize it's idigg. He's giving off some newb vibe that messes up all Wiis in his area.

Edited, Jun 11th 2011 12:46pm by Nadenu
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