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#27 May 07 2011 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Microsoft did it.
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???

It as in the hack? It as in offering identity protection? It as in free games because Live went down?
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#29 May 07 2011 at 8:06 AM Rating: Good
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???

It as in the hack? It as in offering identity protection? It as in free games because Live went down?


The first one.
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That first one is Sony Europe only, we don't even know if everyone else will be able to select games or if they are just given one. The second one is U.S. only for now, since the majority of all PSN accounts are in the States. 31 million compared to Japan's 7.5 million.

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So things are getting interesting.

Key points:
-Anon "officially" claims that they didn't attack Sony.

-But some members of Anon have told CNet that the ones that launched the attack WERE Anon members, just not working with the consent of the group.

-Anon is apparently planning an attack for this weekend, in protest of how Sony has handled the breach and in retaliation for accusing them (which Sony did, because the hackers left a file titled "Anonymous" and an image of the Anon logo in their files). Considering the fact that they might finally have gotten PSN back up soon, I'm going to say, "C'mon Anon! I haven't pissed you off, and I wanna plaaaaay!"
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idiggory wrote:
So things are getting interesting.

Key points:
-Anon "officially" claims that they didn't attack Sony.

-But some members of Anon have told CNet that the ones that launched the attack WERE Anon members, just not working with the consent of the group.

-Anon is apparently planning an attack for this weekend, in protest of how Sony has handled the breach and in retaliation for accusing them (which Sony did, because the hackers left a file titled "Anonymous" and an image of the Anon logo in their files). Considering the fact that they might finally have gotten PSN back up soon, I'm going to say, "C'mon Anon! I haven't pissed you off, and I wanna plaaaaay!"


Neither is going to happen since Sony is keeping the PSN down for an indefinite amount of time.

http://kotaku.com/#!5799556/sony-latest-update-on-playstation-network-status-doesnt-sound-good
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Oh well, good thing it's finals week for me. Hopefully they'll have it up by the end of next week.
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#34 May 09 2011 at 4:02 AM Rating: Good
This is getting ridiculous now. These people need to get a life and stop ruining gaming enjoyment for all the millions of PS3 online gamers.

Note that I don't own a PS3, nor do I play online games (apart from FFXI).

Do these people think they're some kind of vigilante group or something?
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Update: PSN status estimate says it's not going to be up till May 31th.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-09/sony-s-playstation-qriocity-services-remain-shut-uncertain-on-restart.html
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Update: PSN status estimate says it's not going to be up till May 31th.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-05-09/sony-s-playstation-qriocity-services-remain-shut-uncertain-on-restart.html


Holy hell. I don't want to believe it.
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So it'll come back up the day my summer class starts.


Awesome.

Though to be fair, the wording of the article is questionable. I want to know what they mean that the vow to restart services by the 31st remains unchanged. That could just suggest that Sony's worst case scenario plan had the system back up by the 31st and that, despite other set backs, that maximum hasn't moved. In such a case, it's not anything to worry about.
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Do these people think they're some kind of vigilante group or something?
You mean people hacking corporations to take financial/personal information from people for the purpose of making money off of them through various criminal activities? I suspect those people know that they're criminals out to make money off of information they steal.
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You mean people hacking corporations to take financial/personal information from people for the purpose of making money off of them through various criminal activities? I suspect those people know that they're criminals out to make money off of information they steal.


I think he's talking about the Denial of Service attack that Anon was planning to launch this weekend.
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You mean people hacking corporations to take financial/personal information from people for the purpose of making money off of them through various criminal activities? I suspect those people know that they're criminals out to make money off of information they steal.


I think he's talking about the Denial of Service attack that Anon was planning to launch this weekend.


Yeah I don't understand that (if they really said that they'd do it). Seems like a petty move, and one that doesn't justify the risk of the increased attention from the feds that it'd be sure to engender.

Anon should pick their battles with a bit more discretion, methinks.
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Yeah I don't understand that (if they really said that they'd do it). Seems like a petty move, and one that doesn't justify the risk of the increased attention from the feds that it'd be sure to engender.

Anon should pick their battles with a bit more discretion, methinks.


They announced they were going to attack Sony, in retaliation for blaming the initial hack on them. It wasn't Anon, but it was apparently a subgroup that's part of Anon working independently from the rest.

Anon's a group of jerks, yeah, but they've never stolen this kind of info before. They mostly do DoS attacks and release private company info to the public, if their target has seriously pissed them off in some way. But one of the veterans of the group reported to CNet that some of its affiliates were definitely part of the group that attacked SOE.

Also, I doubt Anon cares about pissing off the gov't. For one thing, they're a worldwide "organization." Plus, they've done more than enough already that it's highly likely the FBI was already putting a decent amount of money into investigating the group. Frankly, adding more DoS attacks isn't going to really change anything. If the investigation's going to get more support from the federal gov't, it's going to be over the breach, not over the petty service attacks.

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Also, I specify the US because I live here. But Anon's also launch quite a few attacks on European organizations as well. Their gov'ts are likely funding investigations as well.

Edited, May 10th 2011 10:36am by idiggory
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The whole thing is pretty stupid. Yes, they've disrupted SOE and cost them a boat load of money. But they've ended up pissing off way too many innocent gamers.

Bad form, Anon (or whomever), bad form.
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Yeah I don't understand that (if they really said that they'd do it). Seems like a petty move, and one that doesn't justify the risk of the increased attention from the feds that it'd be sure to engender.

Anon should pick their battles with a bit more discretion, methinks.


They announced they were going to attack Sony, in retaliation for blaming the initial hack on them. It wasn't Anon, but it was apparently a subgroup that's part of Anon working independently from the rest.

Anon's a group of jerks, yeah, but they've never stolen this kind of info before. They mostly do DoS attacks and release private company info to the public, if their target has seriously pissed them off in some way. But one of the veterans of the group reported to CNet that some of its affiliates were definitely part of the group that attacked SOE.

Also, I doubt Anon cares about pissing off the gov't. For one thing, they're a worldwide "organization." Plus, they've done more than enough already that it's highly likely the FBI was already putting a decent amount of money into investigating the group. Frankly, adding more DoS attacks isn't going to really change anything. If the investigation's going to get more support from the federal gov't, it's going to be over the breach, not over the petty service attacks.

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Also, I specify the US because I live here. But Anon's also launch quite a few attacks on European organizations as well. Their gov'ts are likely funding investigations as well.

Edited, May 10th 2011 10:36am by idiggory


Eh, I feel like it all adds to it. More Anon attacks/namedropping (of any variety) = more attention = more outcry (and lobbying) = more government attention.

I suppose my problem with it is that I feel like Anon could do some good with their skills. It'd be a shame if instead they just incite further government intervention with petty, selfish crap. The negative consequences aren't worth it.

Edited, May 10th 2011 12:37pm by Eske
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Well, they're actually kinda a chaotic neutral force, lol. Sometimes, they use their powers for good, sometimes for evil, but always for the sheer pleasure of watching their victims squirm. :P

A decent amount of corruption has been made public because of them over the years. But that's not to say that a lot of innocent people haven't been hurt, too.

The real problem is that the group isn't a hard organization. It's a collective of hackers who come and go. And none of them really know any personal info about the others, beyond the ways they style themselves. So investigating is a b*tch. All agencies can really do s investigate specific cyber crimes. And hell, even if they managed to track down one hacker, the amount of info he/she can even actually provide would probably be minimal. I'm guessing trust isn't really a common emotion felt between Anon members.

So, when it comes to funding, a DoS attack just isn't going to be important compared to an information leak. There's just no reason to care--that money is way better spent trying to track down the ones who actually stole personal info.
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Don't know if I was the only one confused by this, but apparently the idea is to return "full" service (store & everything) by the end of May. They're hoping to have gaming back online a bit sooner. Their PR rep said something to the extent of "at least a few more days." I'm hoping it's up this weekend, but who the hell really knows?

Edited, May 11th 2011 8:00am by Eske
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More info on the attacks, apparently the crooks used a server rented through Amazon to perform the attack. Even though they used false information in order to rent it out, the culprits may be arrested sooner than expected if the can determine the source IP range.

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Amazon.com Inc. (AMZN)’s Web Services cloud - computing unit was used by hackers in last month’s attack against Sony Corp. (6758)’s online entertainment systems, according to a person with knowledge of the matter.

Hackers using an alias signed up to rent a server through Amazon’s EC2 service and launched the attack from there, said the person, who requested anonymity because the information is confidential. The account has been shut down, the person said.

The development sheds light on how hackers used the so- called cloud to carry out the second-biggest online theft of personal information to date. The incursion, which compromised the personal accounts of more than 100 million Sony customers, was “a very carefully planned, very professional, highly sophisticated criminal cyber attack,” Sony has said.

Drew Herdener, a spokesman for Seattle-based Amazon, declined to comment.

“We’re continuing to work with law enforcement in an ongoing investigation into the situation,” said Patrick Seybold, a U.S. spokesman for Tokyo-based Sony. “As such, we will not comment further on this matter.”

The hackers didn’t break into the Amazon servers, the person said. Rather, they signed up for the service just as a legitimate company would, using fake information.

Even so, the breach at Amazon is likely to call attention to concerns some businesses have voiced over the security of computing services delivered via others’ remote servers, referred to as cloud computing.

Cloud security is Amazon’s top priority, Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos said at an event sponsored by Consumer Reports magazine this week.
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“Data security is one of these great dynamic situations where the bad guys get better, and the good guys have to keep getting better too -- it’s not a static situation,” Bezos said, Fast Company’s website reported. “I don’t think this is ever going away -- it’s like trying to say that you’re going to get crime to go away.”

The use of a hijacked or rented server to launch attacks is typical for sophisticated hackers. The proliferation of server farms around the globe has made such misdirection easier, said E.J. Hilbert, president of the security company Online Intelligence and a former FBI cyber-crime investigator.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation will likely subpoena Amazon as part of its investigation process, or it may try to obtain a search warrant, Hilbert said.

“The subpoena will give law enforcement a history of the transactions,” or who had access to the specific Internet address at that time, Hilbert said. “The search warrant will get them more detailed information, including payment information and which credit card was used.”
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Herdener declined to say whether Amazon has been subpoenaed or served with a search warrant.

FBI Special Agent Darrell Foxworth, a spokesman for the agency’s San Diego office, said he couldn’t comment on whether the agency had served Amazon with a search warrant or subpoena.

“We are following up on each and every lead,” Foxworth said.

Amazon Web Services leases computing space to companies such as Netflix Inc. (NFLX) and Eli Lilly & Co. (LLY) so they don’t have to buy their own servers to store data and handle a surge in visitors. The unit brought in about $500 million in revenue in the past year, according to estimates from Barclays Capital and Lazard Capital Markets, or about 1.5 percent of Amazon’s $34.2 billion in 2010 sales. The company doesn’t disclose revenue from Web services.
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Sony offered customers a free year of identify-theft protection after its PlayStation Network and Qriocity entertainment networks were crippled by the attack. Thieves may have stolen credit-card, debit records and other personal information from customers of Sony Online Entertainment, a third service. The New York Attorney General’s office has subpoenaed Sony, according to a person familiar with the probe.

Network security breaches are part of a trend that saw the costs of such invasions jump 48 percent, to an average of $318 per compromised record last year, according to a March report by the Ponemon Institute.

Malicious attacks in the U.S. are on the rise. They climbed 7 percentage points in 2010, with data breaches costing U.S. businesses an average of $7.2 million per incident, according to the Ponemon Institute report. The study found that about 85 percent of all U.S. companies have experienced one or more attacks.
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PSN is partially back up, you can download firmware 3.61 in order to update you passwords. The U.S. PSN Blog posted a map that will update us when the multiplayer portion of PSN will become active in each state. Currently all states are marked as off, the state is supposed to change color when it goes active.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/14/play-on-%E2%80%93-psn-restoration-begins-now/


Edit: Correction, you can download the firmware update but still can't update your password till the network goes up.

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Kickass. I've been wanting to play Demons Souls all day, but haven't because part of what I loved about the game were the messages left around the levels.

In any case, I'm going to celebrate with some online play tomorrow--Black Ops or AC:Brotherhood.

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Seems like the update is probably pretty big, which wouldn't be surprising. It's been going since before I posted this and is only at 56% now.

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Nvm, just went from 56-100 in a few seconds, lol.

Edited, May 14th 2011 9:52pm by idiggory
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Kickass. I've been wanting to play Demons Souls all day, but haven't because part of what I loved about the game were the messages left around the levels.

I hate the messages. 90% of them say "I'm in trouble, please recommend this message". Why they would even add that as an option is beyond me.
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Kickass. I've been wanting to play Demons Souls all day, but haven't because part of what I loved about the game were the messages left around the levels.

I hate the messages. 90% of them say "I'm in trouble, please recommend this message". Why they would even add that as an option is beyond me.


Biggest laugh I got when I started playing was a message telling you to jump into the hole with the disintegrator spell at the bottom in World 1-1. Watched the ghosts of 4 different people hop right in.
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Map has been updated, so far Maine to Jersey is up.
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