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#1 Jan 17 2004 at 7:47 AM Rating: Decent
I am a new Reb Jack-of-all-trades human player on the Chilathra Server. I primarily play on Corellia but will soon be changing planets in an attempt to decrease lag. I have only grouped to learn new skills and have never entered a combat situation or mission with other players. I know this is kind of odd considering my initial intent was to become a Combat Doc.

My first Question is who started making player associations, how do they work, what do they do, and why should I join one. If I should join one, which one? I want to role play and gain experience in the StarWars world, not grind out a character by group hack and slashing creatures. On the other hand the Storm troopers are slaughtering me, and I wouldn't mind a little Reb assistance in some guerilla warfar for the Alliance.

So anyone have any suggestions. By the way if I do join an alliance, I would rather not just be a number, I would like to be in a smaller organization I think, but I don't really know how the size of an alliance works on the availability of its members.

Another question is by joining an alliance am I setting my self up to be TEF'd when I am not directly envolved in an altercation envolving some of my association members. Are associations planet specific, or interplanetary. Is there a chain of command with some one at the top, or is it a democracy. If there is a person at the top, who choses that person, or is it just the person who started the PA. If there is a person at the top does he make decisions that will directly effect my character.

Well I guess that is all of my questions, Anyone have any help for me.

"G"

-Go with the Force,
OR
Go Alone-

P.S. where do I sign up, and do I have to earn my entry into a PA, or pay for a membership with Creds or prove my worth like in a Gang initiation. You guys arn't going to corner me in a dead in alley and say pummel me for designated time and if you don't IC me, let me in tha association are you.
#2 Jan 17 2004 at 7:52 AM Rating: Decent
P.S. I don't play on the weekends, that is when I work in RL. I usually play Sunday Night through Thursday Night. Are certain Association's time specific as to when most of its members are online.

"G"

-To Pen a Word,
Is to make One's hand Imortal"
#3 Jan 17 2004 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
I hate to add strings to my own question, when there not in response to an answer, but this is one of the few questions I would like answered by the general SWG population.

"G"

-Running off at the mouth,
its aperntly not promoted,
but it is tolerated-
#4 Jan 17 2004 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Well a PA is just bunch of players who have formed a guild and hang out together, maybe have a city that they all live in and help to run. There are many and varied PA's in the game, all different on each server.

Some are hardcore PA's in that they require you to be online at certain times for hunting parties and events etc.. others are just casual affairs where you simply have the PA tag on your name but can pretty much do what you want when you want.

The decision on which you want to join is up to you but Id suggest the best way to be invited to one is to start getting into hunting groups or hanging out in cantinas and just getting to know people who are in a PA already. Try the mining outpost on Dantooine as that seems popular for pick up hunting groups, but anywhere will do really.

There are PA's that have no requirements for joining and in fact will send out emails to people they don't even know asking them if they would like to join just so they boost their numbers. Again the decision to join one of those is entirely up to you.

So, a PA is basically just a group of players who may have orgainsed events, consistent hunting parties or just like to socialize with each other. There is no requirement to be in one but if you like socializing with a consistent group of people or want to have regular hunting trips with people you know then being in a PA may give you that.
#5 Jan 18 2004 at 6:38 AM Rating: Decent
The main advantage of PA’s are they tend to pool there resources and skills together. Plus the people in the guild will tend to help you out. Usually someone in your guild will be able to train you in your skills. Your PA is a group of people you can trust always nice to have an honest slicer and your guild will tend not to try and take advantage of you. It’s always tough to trust a stranger who is just trying to make credits lol!!!
#6 Jan 18 2004 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
The main advantage of PA’s are they tend to pool there resources and skills together. Plus the people in the guild will tend to help you out. Usually someone in your guild will be able to train you in your skills. Your PA is a group of people you can trust always nice to have an honest slicer and your guild will tend not to try and take advantage of you. It’s always tough to trust a stranger who is just trying to make credits lol!!!
#7 Jan 18 2004 at 11:54 AM Rating: Decent
Theres two basic types that play this game. Theres those like me and the author, true gamers who play games because they love to play video games. They don't care about the end game or being powerful. They apply their imagainations to things people consider to be grinds which turns the grind back into a game. Basicly, there not motivated to play just to have some kind of label or status. That just comes second to them.

Then there are majority. These are weak people who sole motivation of playing this game is to be someone powerful since in RL there not. Once they acheive the label they seek they become very bored and they go on to a new level of gaming- Hanging out loitering in public areas and talking sht. None of them are even very original about it. They just keep saying "hmmmm" and "good luck" or "lol"as a repsonse to anything. Even if it wasnt directed to them they'll still run up and go "hmmm" and "good luck." Get it through your stupid brains already. This is so cliche and does not make you appear intelligent.

They power lev there characters in matter of a couple days through rampant afk macs, exploits, and begging from the ones who did the same thing before them, thus they just complete one ugly cycle of morons. The whole reason they want to be masters in a week is so they can act and fit in with the idiots they look up to.

They look down tremendously on anything or anybody who's RP. They despise casual players, they really hate to see someone kicking *** solo, as that was never a concept to them and this will cause them to KS your points if they cross your camps.

They also like to pretend that thre a little bit ghetto or streetsmart. They go onto forums and complain about not enuff star wars feeling and F' the devs this and that for not immersing them better in a star wars bla bla bla. The sad thing is these chumps make up 98% of SWG.

But my love for the game, my char, and my love for the enviorment and how your able to use the enviorment in so many ways does not let these idiots keep me from playing. I have learned to love solo and will do it for hours on end. Its to the point where if anyone comes near me in the wilderness I dont even give the a chance to say nothing.. I just jump in my landspeeder and break out without saying a word.

Sometimes they'll chase me around. And they like to drive there speeder bikes through my camps or when I'm fighting. I guess they think I never seen one before or something and that it impresses me.

No matter how stupid this sht community is, no matter how much "hmmmm" and "GL" I have to hear them say, no matter how many player cities I'm banned from for no reason at all while I'm in the middle of a mission, thus cancelling my mission out,
I'll keep playing and loving the "grinds" hoping to one day cross paths in the deserts of tat with someone like the author.,.
#8 Jan 18 2004 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
ps sorry for ranting
#9 Jan 22 2004 at 7:49 AM Rating: Decent
hi Jerok, had a bad day?

I´ve been playing for quite some time with most all of my actual NB/Farstar Guild Members. What exactly none of my mates would do, is to ban someone for being solo. If anybody needs or wishes to be, so be it. Leave him alone, as he likes it that way.

But i find it hard to accept, you´ve been banned from a player city for just being in the area.

And 98% seems quite exaggerated to me.

My guild ( In no game ) have been any rul0r people. Neither have we tryed to be. We acceot game as it is, and do, what is most fun to all of us... explore. On some occasion, there has been some incident of a dragon or so, letting us all dig dirt, and the only reaction to 14 people dead was, "Wow, that dragon looked great!"

So, don´t think too bad about all 98%, that are left after your calculation. Maybe some of them are quite nice too.

Greets

Gloh
#10 Jan 22 2004 at 1:38 PM Rating: Good
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Player Associations are just Guilds or Clans. Groups of players that stay and work as a team. They get to build cities (which are often empty) and will generally do things as a group.

Some will be in the EQ "Uber" Guild mold (see Fires of Heaven, Arch Overseers for examples) others might be like some Quake/UT clan, full of l33t speaking "OMG, pwned n00b" chat. Most, from what I have seen are decent enough. Many seem to encourage roleplaying (although in my mind PA's often destroy this as the players start to know each other personally rather than characters) and, especially imperial ones on my server, have rank and authority in them that is played out and good to watch.
I have to admit the Rebel guilds on Chimaera, that I have come across, haven't been as good as the imperial ones and have seemed to be based more around the l33t speaking PvP'rs. Saying this the rebels that are likely good roleplayers are not going to advertise the fact they are rebels.

Jerok, you need to move servers and start again I think. If you are really treated this way then you've either done something to warrant it or your server really is full of ********* but either way you need a fresh start. You may say you are enjoying it but if that was the case you wouldn't be typing such a venom filled rant as you just did.

I am in no guild. I rarely group. I do have friends in game I group with but it isn't often we are all online together. I am certainly not a Mr Nice Guy to everyone but I have never suffered anything like the victimisation Jerok is describing or anything close to it. No ones ever ridiculed me for being a Role Player or tried to KS me or train me but I have to admit that I am certain someone tried to run me down in their speeder in Espa once...Never got his license plate either.

If I didn't enjoy the community on my server (ok that community might only be small and based around Espa) then I would certainly not hesitate to swap towns, planets or servers, if required.
#11 Jan 22 2004 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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woohoo!

Go Jerok :)

Those jerks make up way too much of the community, and it's amazing how quiet some cities get once you start ignoring them.

Quite peaceful really..
#12 Jan 22 2004 at 1:52 PM Rating: Default
PA's

While I am in a pa that boasts over 100 active members I find that I like the solitary life which is why I choose to be a BH.

However, Pa's can be useful in organizing attacks on rebel pa cities and bases. You can solo in regular pvp but to really get the attention of a pa you don't like form an attack squad and start taking out turrets and bases then see how fast your rep improves.

Varrus
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