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#1 Jan 02 2004 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
Hey all! I was hoping for a little info here. I was planing on going master bounty hunter but I have been reading that most bounty hunters don't. Can anyone tell me why that is? What is the real advantage of being a master? Is hunting Jedi marks the only perk? I thought that scatter shot sounds like it would be a good. Also on a side note what shots make targets dizzy so they can not get back up? I thought that it might be knockdown fire but I have had a little trouble with this shot, seems to me that underhand shot works more often.

Thanks
#2 Jan 03 2004 at 7:08 AM Rating: Decent
decent skill tree for the mind hits but honestly i find it useless for the amount of skill points it takes, rediculous if u ask me. im a master gunfighter and i have yet to find a master bh that can beat me in a duel, actually none have even come close. and i pity the foll that uses 243 out of 250 points to master bh. i dare any bh to go up a master tera kasi that requires less than halve the skill points.
#3 Jan 03 2004 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
true pistoleers and carbineers (and prob alot otehrs) are easier to master than bh. Bh takes quite a bit of time to master. Is it worth it? Thats up to u. Being a master does have advantages, plus u get to say hey im a bounty hunter, wich is cool. Just master bh last night so i'll try and let u know whats up with the master level shots. Confusion shot helps to dizzy an enemy. Good luck...

ProphaFett
#4 Jan 03 2004 at 7:51 AM Rating: Decent
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The reason most BH's are not masters, are because of Dabbling, Oh sure so every body you see is a bounty hunter, its because theyre gettin PIstol line for pistoleeer, or carbine line for carbineer, or yes,, LLC for Commando! ive seen it happen, most just get all the cool skills associated with BH and not bother with investigation,
Which is why there isnt that many MBh's , although i digress, there has been an upsurge in MBh's than there used to be due to holos and the fact that investigation has been somewhat fixed, and Jedi missions.
I may eventually take up BH again, i did it what seems like years back, would be intesting to see how its changed.
#5 Jan 04 2004 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm going all the way for BH it's the only Skill where you can't grind for master and to me that makes it a cut above the rest. I think that MBH will be one of the classes that will be on par with Jedi. Don't take this class if you afraid to work for your skills and not grind it out like the rest.
#6 Jan 04 2004 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
Ok I have mastered carbines now for BH, wow what a diffence it makes. I used to go get buffed up before doing missions, now I just knockdown fire them and most of the time all the damage that I take is from special attacks. I have to say that master is the only thing that I am going to work for now. So when my toon is done it sould look like

Master Bounty hunter
Ranger- tracking 3
Novice medic- no skills

The only thing that I dred is working the pistol line of this. Anyone know a good way to grind this out? I tryed it in groups and I was getting about 300 points a kill when I was getting about 3000 with my LLC, is solo the only way to go?
#7 Jan 05 2004 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
I am doin BH out of an Xmas holo hint, and I've maxed LLC in two days hunting Thunes in a small group, now I'm taking on pistol in the same way. It's thougher, but it works; I can get 1.5 to 2k XP per kill. It's much better if you have a medic or you can cure your action so you can health and bleed shot each target without suicide.

To be honest BH was the profession I wanted to master after ranger, so when the holo told me to master BH I was Master Marksman and Master Scout already and I took Novice BH and Pistol 1 immediately.

The only thing I haven't decided yet is: should I drop rifleman or ranger to support my new BH skills?

Nalro T'Bo
Avenger on Bloodfin
#8 Jan 05 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Rancors and most of harder stuff on Dath. Once you get eye shot use it all the time you get more xp that way. Make sure to tell your group that your working on your pistol xp and to cut back on trying to kill everything quickly.
#9 Jan 05 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
I'm having the same trouble deciding what to do to compliment my BH which is 1/0/1/1 now. My holo hint suggested I do pikeman so that ought to be interesting. I'm going to master bh pistol/carbine/investigating/lightning canon but was wondering if I should also try and do some medic or ranger skills.

Also I know for close combat tera kais kick butt, was wondering how Pikeman stood up?

Varrus
#10 Jan 05 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Not worth it at all. I was close to mbh then quit the game entirely in disgust. There is no point to being an mbh, other than hunting Jedi which would get boring anyway.
#11 Jan 05 2004 at 5:40 PM Rating: Decent
Lol I like these guys that bash the game with this same mantra...

I came close to achieving master but quit...It probably would have sucked anyway had I achieved master.

This isn't a grief thread this is to get input on BH's not whether or not you like the game.

I know MBH's aren't probably as strong as commando's but that's cool cause my rl bro is a commando. We are both anxiously awaiting a time when with my investigation skills and his firepower we can both take down young aspiring jedi.

Also get used to not necessarily being the badest **** in the game. There are going to be a lot of people you can dominate but there's always going to be that one person with better skills, more firepower, etc...The key in swg as in life is utilizing to the best of your abilities the skills you have with the intellect God has graced you with. Many times it's not the strongest that overcomes in a battle but the smartest.

p.s. a key to battle is chosing the field of battle and knowing your enemy. i.e. if a tera kai master is out in the open chasing an expert ranger with great rifle skills all the ranger has to do is quad the tka and he gets the victory even though the tka would crush him in city limits.

Varrus
#12 Jan 06 2004 at 2:01 AM Rating: Default
Hunting down the Jedi...what could be better?

"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything thereafter." --Ernest Hemingway.
#13 Jan 06 2004 at 4:47 AM Rating: Decent
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Vexica Scholar i am going to post honest to god here I turned master bh a week ago on the tempest server

and there are 2 things I want to say first
DONT BECOME A BOUNTY HUNTER !
BOUNTY HUNTERS SUCK (In pvp and in parties)

Okay that may sound little raw but it is the truth !!
I am sure that’s of ppl are going to argue with me but, the amount of time and effort it has taken me to get master bh is just not worth the trouble ,
My Friend mastered commando in half the time and owns in groups gets all the kills solo’s fort tusken enjoys the game laughs at me
My other Friend mastered TK he owns everything in PVP just goes around all day looking to duel and beat down on overts and sometimes graces me with his presence because I need his help making money and we do missions.

When u brake down I think most master bounty hunters will agree these are the only abilities they use constantly

Worth using
Blind Shot
Torso Shot
llc single 1 and 2
llc cone 1 and 2
fire knockdown

Not-worth using
all the others

I don’t use the other abilities I don’t even have buttons for them they just don’t do enough!, and I worry for the abilities which are worth using because ppl always moan they are over powering (fear leads to nerfing)

U say o but bounty hunter can hunt Jedi’s err no we cant missions are bugged , sure they will get fixed but when !, the devs know the missions have never worked

the worst thing about bounty hunters is by FAR THE GOOD DAMN INVESTIGATION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! words can not describe how much I loath and detest this skill tree which is so bugged , useless and time consuming if u like waiting at a shuttle ports then bh is the way 2 go ! the missions are so under paid for what u spend , in the long run u don’t even u brake even or operate at a loss ! u need seeker droids arkaryd droids 2 types of spices cant remember the names and spend tons of travel , if I didn’t know the planet jump vehicle bug u would have to repair ur speeder like every ten seconds . Not only do u have to wait around at star-ports u have to chase targets 6000m away from any star ports and I worked out on investigation 4 1/8 missions where bugged and the target was not there where u invested so much time and money keyboards have been broken !

now lets be serious bhs the most deprived combat class in the game and probably second most deprived of all classes ( after droid engs) they are not going to fix bounty hunter just tweak it , for the bh skill to be worth the time in takes to master and the skill points they would have to unbalance the class compared to others because what u get for the points is a total rip off

i am sure lots of ppl well say yeah but we get to hunt Jedi’s iceman huh huh that is cool , okay sure NOT TRUE I DONT hunt Jedi’s I have to get all my friends to come and help just to have an eye in of beating a Jedi above padwan , o and the devs are now putting Jedi’s on the normal mission terminals so anyone can attempt to kill them now not just bh's

if u cant really be bothered to read the above read this here it is in summary

bh's are to bugged
bh's are to expensive
bh's are to time consuming

i beg of you vexice i really am on my knees dont become a bounty hunter do this
Master Pistooler, Master Scout Master Get the tracking skill on ranger
and with the left over points get what u want

and put on your information page I am a bounty hunter because u are! even if u don’t have the title master bounty hunter ,which is the only thing I like about being a master bounty hunter is the title because it shows how much time u are willing to waste on a game.

O and for all those thinking why become a bounty hunter if u dislike it so much u could rite a page on it , well at first bounty hunters are attractive the investigation missions are fun the innate abilities are good , however what was attractive soon becomes ugly so for all novice bhs out there reading this thinking u are wrong u just don’t know how to use the skill wait till u turn master bh u will drop the skill instantly and cry in a corner
#14 Jan 06 2004 at 11:00 AM Rating: Decent
It sounds like BH needs some serious issues resolved. That being said I still am heading that route because my rl bro is a commando and I want to go a different route and not very big on tka or ch. Also when I opened my holocron it said pikeman so I already know I'm going to have to drop the rilfe skills i've spent so much time learning, plus I'm taking my camp making skills to the max...I really want to be able to make the coolest camps. My only fear is running out of skills points to use. So basically it looks like bh pistol bh carbine bh lightning weapon investigation and pikeman not to mention what comes after that.

Now I'm really confused.

Varrus
#15 Jan 06 2004 at 1:42 PM Rating: Decent
Well, by now I have BH 0-1-1-4 and all i can say is... I'm kicking ***!! I don't know what ppl thnks a game like this should be, but I've started to engage opposite faction member since I can undehand shot them and burn them to dust with LLC. I was a Master ranger with rifle 4-0-0-2 and I can't even take on a novice marksman with a good carbine.

BH sucks? Definitely NOT!! It may be though to get master, time consuming, boring and whatever, but I'm just loving it...

The only thing I can't understand by now is if it's better ranger track my prey or shoot his head from afar...
#16 Jan 06 2004 at 2:13 PM Rating: Decent
Malro sounds like you're getting a kick out of BH...since you were a master ranger I was wondering if you could advise me on something. I want to be able to make all those cool camps and that's pretty much it ranger wise is that going to really impede my BH skill list? Also is terrain negotiation really worth sacrificing maybe some medic skills for my BH?

Varrus
#17 Jan 06 2004 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
I haven't used that much the advanced camps, but if you go hunting with large groups it could be useful to deploy camps like field base or high tech field base that have embedded medical and generical crafting stations. The healing modifier of those camps is .85 vs the .65 of a novice ranger camp.

In one word... I'd stay away from frontiering if you want to go BH. Instead get Wayfaring, that gets you (at level 4) the access for camo kits for all the planets except dathomir. Or Tracking, that makes you able to "spot" mobs (and players at level 4) from afar. Nice to track down FS characters on Dant for example, or to find Krayts or Kimos without too much hassle.

I've seen some MBH that have choose Ranger 0-0-3-0 and Novice Medic for backup.

Nalro T'Bo
Avenger on Bloodfin
#18 Jan 06 2004 at 10:26 PM Rating: Decent
My theory on this is if you choose your secondary skills poorly then you will not like BH. I am BH/CH and I have a lot of fun. My razor cat chews their butt off while I shoot them. Works well for me. I solo a lot and rarely die. In groups I can more than hold my own and if someone is about to get incapped I use my lightning 2 and that takes the creature out pretty quick. I am not master BH yet but I am 3/2/3/4. I agree investigation SUCKS!. Too much travel and waiting for shuttles for far too little xp. However I am really enjoying the char and trying to space out investigation with just having fun. If I just tried to grind investigation, I would prob end up quiting. In summary BH has problems, and if you are looking to grind through it quickly, DON'T do BH. If you are just looking to have some fun and maybe even roleplay this is a great profession.
#19 Jan 07 2004 at 9:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Seems like Iceman doesn't like to work. Too long and expensive? Long yes expensive....no. The BH missions are like 20K a pop and I haven't had one "hard" mission yet. Now when everything boils down it will not be the Commandos or the TKA's that can kill Jedi but the Bounty Hunters. Sure things are bugged right now but I think that BH will have the most dynamic changes once we get further along. Now BH sucking In pvp? you don't know how to use the class then KD fire is one of the best combot starters in the game. Choice of Weapon is a factor too. Knowing your targets defense and weaknesses is key in Pvp hell and in grouping. I'm happy that Invest is a hard tree and takes time to learn because every time i do a successful mission I know someone out there is getting pissed and willing to give up the class because it's "too stupid and long" and all i can say is please drop the class no server needs a BH that sucks at his job and has no patience. Being a BH will never be an easy road nor should it be.
#20 Jan 07 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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I turned master bh a week ago

I think Iceman has already done the work and was not impressed with the results.

I don't really like the BH class as it is. I think it should have been some sort of career outside of professions.
It's too linear and to much based on 2 characters from the films.

I prefer Icemans ideas of taking appropriate skills and then calling yourself a BH.
#21 Jan 08 2004 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
Ok 1st off holy ****...Iceman are you me, I mean did I post this under a different name and such. I'm kidding but it sounds just like me. Man you r right on point in describing master bounty hunter. What a friggin' dissapointment. I thought once i master bh i would be hardcore, and I am kinda. In pvp tkm, fencer all those profs kd and do a little dance on me till I'm dead. I have kd but fire kd and just regular kd kinda suck, they do work some times. Torso shot is nice cause it burns a little bit, bleed shot sux cause it bleeds so little...no wonder bh spam eyeshot its their only defense against buffed people, and also ony direct mind attack for a bh. Light lightining canon, the bh's most devastating weapon...I can do like 5k dam with this thing its awesome...unless you have armor on, then it sucks bad...so there goes your best weapon in pvp.
Now i finally get to ***** about the invesigation skills...2 words...it sucks. Sure at first its fun, but after awhile it just plain sux. Its a useless skill. Whoopy I can do mission solo for almost 23k (u dont even have to master bh to get these missions), after 4-12k in shuttles its not as quite as much plus when u get em bugged there is no return (and there are lots of bugs with bh missions). I could go on and on about how screwed up they are but I wont.
On to the reason anyone would become a bh anyway, hunting jedi. These missions are worth 150k a pop, awesome payout. All though I have never done any jedi hunting either. The missions may b bugged, or you may not b able to hunt lihght side jedi if you r a reb bh, and since all the new jedi r light side that means no jedi hunting. I thought about dropping my reb status, but no PVP, what else am i supposed to do thats fun. So if I cant hunt jedi well lets just say I wont b a master bh for long. But I will keep the bh carb, pistol, and llc skills, just not investigation, which does you no good anyway. Wow I can use droids to track sorry *** npc's, trust me after like 50 of those they r no fun. If you want to be a bh fine, just dont master it...get lots of pistoleer/carbineer skillls and you will beat the pants off any master bh...
Damn iceman you are totally right, I mastered bh about 2 weeeks ago, and im right with you. What a waste of time and skills, all for that master bh title. Poor weak little bounty hunters, thats why Im gonna master pistoleer, and get rid of sorry invest. I will still call myself a bh, and will kick *** instead of getting my *** kicked.

"He's no good to me dead"

ProphaFett
#22 Jan 08 2004 at 8:20 AM Rating: Decent
Ok 1st off holy ****...Iceman are you me, I mean did I post this under a different name and such. I'm kidding but it sounds just like me. Man you r right on point in describing master bounty hunter. What a friggin' dissapointment. I thought once i master bh i would be hardcore, and I am kinda. In pvp tkm, fencer all those profs kd and do a little dance on me till I'm dead. I have kd but fire kd and just regular kd kinda suck, they do work some times. Torso shot is nice cause it burns a little bit, bleed shot sux cause it bleeds so little...no wonder bh spam eyeshot its their only defense against buffed people, and also ony direct mind attack for a bh. Light lightining canon, the bh's most devastating weapon...I can do like 5k dam with this thing its awesome...unless you have armor on, then it sucks bad...so there goes your best weapon in pvp.
Now i finally get to ***** about the invesigation skills...2 words...it sucks. Sure at first its fun, but after awhile it just plain sux. Its a useless skill. Whoopy I can do mission solo for almost 23k (u dont even have to master bh to get these missions), after 4-12k in shuttles its not as quite as much plus when u get em bugged there is no return (and there are lots of bugs with bh missions). I could go on and on about how screwed up they are but I wont.
On to the reason anyone would become a bh anyway, hunting jedi. These missions are worth 150k a pop, awesome payout. All though I have never done any jedi hunting either. The missions may b bugged, or you may not b able to hunt lihght side jedi if you r a reb bh, and since all the new jedi r light side that means no jedi hunting. I thought about dropping my reb status, but no PVP, what else am i supposed to do thats fun. So if I cant hunt jedi well lets just say I wont b a master bh for long. But I will keep the bh carb, pistol, and llc skills, just not investigation, which does you no good anyway. Wow I can use droids to track sorry *** npc's, trust me after like 50 of those they r no fun. If you want to be a bh fine, just dont master it...get lots of pistoleer/carbineer skillls and you will beat the pants off any master bh...
Damn iceman you are totally right, I mastered bh about 2 weeeks ago, and im right with you. What a waste of time and skills, all for that master bh title. Poor weak little bounty hunters, thats why Im gonna master pistoleer, and get rid of sorry invest. I will still call myself a bh, and will kick *** instead of getting my *** kicked.

"He's no good to me dead"

ProphaFett
#23 Jan 08 2004 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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2 weeks bh now and have taken 4 Jedi missions all have been bugged or druids didn’t work

btw at difficulty 75 I do not think mbh will be able to solo a Jedi, they will probably need some sort of help from an other class (this is an npc jedI)

I have seen a player Jedi in my server and quickly attacked him but then he quickly ran away and I decided not to follow (I was on low health) but I have his name hehe keep sending him messages now he wants to pay me off , and in the words of Mace Windu I don’t think so !

but to respond to the ranwa guy who says bh should not be an easy grind which I totally agree with , but I am nearly 100% sure that ranwa is not a mbh because if he was he would agree with me I worked hard for carbines, pistols and llc 4 , o and master marksmen and scout but investigation 4 is just ludicrous , waiting at star ports for 5 minutes + , travelling out to find targets 6000m away from star ports , this is no life of a bounty hunter , you would think that the gangsters would hire thugs to protect them and hide in a fortress , and the poorer ones would hide out in a cantina and drowned in there sorrows , however some would run into the wilderness but I don’t think most should .
Plus when can I assassinate politicians and take out nobles for gangsters !
#24 Jan 08 2004 at 11:55 PM Rating: Decent
well if you used druids, they never work right. damn druids
#25 Jan 11 2004 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
To sum up this post really quick. Master Bh sucks. It is a waste of time and effort. Don't even bother to get bh at all, if there is a worse proffession I haven't seen it yet. Suppossedly the devs are gonna fix it sometime but who knows about that (or even how they are gonna fix it). The only reason to get bh is if you want to b the worst person on the server at combat. As master bh you will get beat by friggin' by any novice pistoleer/carbineer/rifleman or TKA. Bh is good for tracking down the stupid npc's for bh missions and thats it. The llc would be awesome but any difficult creature is either 100% resistant or damn close to 100%, and in pvp the llc is useless against anyone who has comp armor on, which most PVPers do. And the llc is the bh's biggest advantage. Oh and in pvp you are gonna get knocked down alot. Even as master bh, many times I got like one shot off before I was kd and then killed. Don't waste your time mastering a proffession as pathetic as this one. If you want good combat skills go master something like chef or tailor...I know they can beat the **** out of master bh's...lol

ProphaFett
#26 Jan 12 2004 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
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I have kept a record of people I have beat and lost 2 and here it is I am the ones on the left ( always best out of 3)

mbh vs novice pistooler 1 0 4 1 lost 1 2
mbh vs master pikeman/master brawler lost 0 2
mbh vs tk monk lost 1 2
mbh vs master ranger/noive carb (0 0 1 2) won! 2 0
mbh vs master pistooler thrased ! 0 5 (guy from guild)
mbh vs master commando draw 1 1 (this made me so pissed of!)
mbh vs Avenger/noive pistol 0 0 4 1 lost 0 2
mbh vs noive bh won 2 0

as you can see against a wide range of opponents I do not win
(please don’t say maybe it is your tactics I owned when I was tkm)

basically in pvp here are your choices because as a bh they are so limited

start with carbine and hope u kd

if u do run in fry with llc

if they are wearing composite (which they ALL do)
switch to pistol and….
torso shoot
unless they have the medic skill or buffed then…
eye shoot and run away unless
If they have mind…
You are screwed and do this ….
/endduel unless you are honourable just kneel and say end my suffering

there you go that is pretty much all you can do

I have found un-buffed as well bh's to be even worst (if that is possible) so many times I have basically killed myself doing specials.

I hope when they do fix bh they really really make them worth there points as this week I know 3 master bh who have just dropped it because it is so bad. Pvp
O and christ ,this took the biscuit for me. One guy saw me at the bh mission terminal a while back and said damn u got bh on your Holocron that’s unlucky , I was like what no I just want to be master bh he laughed and then…. laughed again then… persisted to pointed and laughed and then left , I was shocked to find that bh has been relegated to the league of chief and tailor that ppl only master it to become a jedi
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