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#1 Mar 23 2008 at 10:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I thought I would share this story so perhaps you might think twice about what you say and whom you are saying it to.


There I was running around doing my thing(wack'n bad monsters and pulling weeds) after a wonderful evening of pen and paper RP. When as I stand in front of an escort mob and am typing to the guy next to me asking if he wants into the quest then BAM! He starts the quest and runs off.

Well, of course I had to tell him I thought it was rude. Well this fine upstanding member of the WoW community begins a profanity laced tyraid(spelling?) into what he viewed as my equally rude behavior earlier. He also mention's how I interact with animals and how I must be buggered by members of the same sex(Not that I have a problem with that, just not my thing and I don't think its ok to use it as a slanderous statement)


My crimes?
When he drive-by buffed me I just waved, when we were in the same area I didn't thank him for killing some of the mobs that I had no intention of killing, there-by potentially saving my life.


This goes on for a while(his profanity and my chuckling), when I realized his name looked familiar. So I made a comment about him being an idiot who must live in the sticks in a particular state. Well, he says "how did you know".....do I know you?


His name is the same name as a neighbors ranch. That ranch touches my property and thus I am familiar with it.

Well, now I think I got the wee tardlet. I pose a few more questions to make sure I am noy off base, Because I am pretty sure he is one of my neighbor's(and good friend) sons. So, I grab some screenshots, make some nice copies and give my neighbor a call, off I go for some midnight coffee.



Yep, boy did I get it right. Next thing you know this kid I have known all his life, is apologizing 10 ways from Sunday to both his father and I.

Needless to say, he wont be logging onto WoW for a bit as it seems that my stable is going to be very clean since his father is sending him over tomorrow.



Be careful what you say, you just might know the person you are talking to.


Oh, good deeds are best when they are done without anticipation of reward, course a thank you doesn't hurt.


Edited to prevent eye xplosion due to wall of text.

Edited, Mar 23rd 2008 11:29am by merorles
#2 Mar 23 2008 at 10:31 AM Rating: Good
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Ouch, that kid must be cursing his luck.

that is very unlucky for him, but he did deserve what he got!

Edited, Mar 23rd 2008 2:31pm by devzzz
#3 Mar 23 2008 at 10:32 AM Rating: Good
Oh my god...

/pretend rate-up :D

Hilarious
#4 Mar 23 2008 at 10:36 AM Rating: Default
I'm siding with the kid on this one.

Yeah, he was being a ****, but on the internet your actions aren't meant to have real life consequences. Just like if you die in Canada you don't die in real life.
#5 Mar 23 2008 at 10:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Normally I would have given the kid a break. Had a nice chat with him in private.


However,


There is one additional piece of info you all weren't aware of.


He and my oldest daughter were close.....WERE being the operative word in that there statement.


Hell, I am really not all that bent out of shape, as much as my post might indicate. I am still laughing over his REALLY bad luck. My daughter will have a nice chat and decide if he is worth it....

He has 1 great thing going for him....

He plays WoW.





Edited, Mar 23rd 2008 11:45am by merorles
#6 Mar 23 2008 at 10:44 AM Rating: Good
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Merorles, good job! Hopefully in the future your neighbor will monitor his kid's online behavior. Just because this is a game doesn't give you the right to be rude, crude, or perverted to strangers. Not only that but with so many players, you never know if the person you're cussing out might just be your next door neighbor.
#7 Mar 23 2008 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
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This is what happens when you take things on the internet too seriously...

I'd love to see the real chat log...
#8 Mar 23 2008 at 12:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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You could've had much more fun by describing his own house to him. He'd have wet himself.
#9 Mar 23 2008 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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...on the internet your actions aren't meant to have real life consequences.


Except when they do. Kid learned a easy lesson in karma. If it soaks in it might save him some serious grief as an adult.




#10 Mar 23 2008 at 1:28 PM Rating: Default
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Merorles, good job! Hopefully in the future your neighbor will monitor his kid's online behavior.


LOL - LMAO

What are you suggesting. This guy stand behind his kid and read what he types.

As for the original poster you were out of line getting this kid in trouble. It takes two to tango. He may have offered up profanity and called you names but you started it by sending him and tell and telling him he was rude.

He had the option at that point of putting you on ignore. Which is what I would have done. Instead he opted to start a dialogue with you, where he explained he thought you rude for not returning his buff. At which point you probably had some witty belittling thing to say to him, and he being young and not as witty replied with profanity and name calling.

At which point you too had the option to put him on ignore. Which is what I would have done. You chose to continue talking to him. Now you have him cleaning your barn out because you called him a name in game. Calling him rude. Then played the little boy and went and tattled to his daddy.

And yes. If someone buffs you if you are a buffing class it is polite to buff them back.

Just because you were in the process of sending him a tell to ask if he would like to party up does not mean he did anything wrong in starting the quest. How does he know that you are typing to him?

Does a little orange light go on over your head when you start typing to alert other players you might be in the process of sending them a tell?

Edited, Mar 23rd 2008 5:30pm by Gandie

Edited, Mar 23rd 2008 7:37pm by Gandie
#11 Mar 23 2008 at 1:34 PM Rating: Good
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Oh the wonder of a kid having to clean **** on a barn floor for talking smack in WoW. I wish it happened more often ...
#12 Mar 23 2008 at 2:37 PM Rating: Good
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Wow, what incredible coincidence... of all the realms in all the world (of warcraft), he had to log into yours. :>
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#13 Mar 23 2008 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
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That is brilliant! The Internet Avenger! lol

Gandie, I assume you are rude to a lot of people on-line and are afraid of the same thing happening to you?
#14 Mar 23 2008 at 6:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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So...your daughter is available huh?
#15 Mar 23 2008 at 6:28 PM Rating: Good
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on the internet your actions aren't meant to have real life consequences. Just like if you die in Canada you don't die in real life.


gee thanks for making me spit my snack on the screen...

Now send that slave over here to clean my Flatscreen
#16 Mar 23 2008 at 6:57 PM Rating: Decent
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Depends on the language and the age of said child in my eyes.

Good job though. I probably would have done the same.
#17 Mar 23 2008 at 11:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'm siding with the kid on this one.

Yeah, he was being a Richard, but on the internet your actions aren't meant to have real life consequences. Just like if you die in Canada you don't die in real life.


/disagree

The internet is the ultimate test of whether or not you need laws and consequences or if you're capable of behaving on your own.

With the internet, most people feel that they are anonymous - that no one will ever know who they are in RL and the reality is that most of the time, they're right.

As such, how you act on the internet is how you act when you think that no one is watching, when you think that you can do something without consequences, without being caught or punished - its how you act when only God is watching you.

As such, if you're a liar, thief, bully or all around ackjass when on the net, you're basically showing everyone who's seeing just what you're truly like inside - what the real you is.

But what you're counting on is that no one knows who the real you is - that's the gamble you take - that no one will ever know who you are in RL because the reality is that you're only acting like this because you know that the person you're pulling this crap on can't punch you out like they would if you treated them like this face to face.

So personally, I think its great that this happened - I think it'd be even better if we couldn't keep our ID secret when we were on line - just imagine how many trolls would disappear if you could just click on thier handle and know who they were in RL? Think about how much more polite on line interactions would be, how all of the ITGs would just shrivel up and disappear?
#18 Mar 24 2008 at 1:06 AM Rating: Good
merorles wrote:
Well, of course I had to tell him I thought it was rude. Well this fine upstanding member of the WoW community begins a profanity laced tirade into what he viewed as my equally rude behavior earlier. He also mention's how I interact with animals and how I must be buggered by members of the same sex(Not that I have a problem with that, just not my thing and I don't think its ok to use it as a slanderous statement)

Heh! Just for this, I would have reported him to a GM, and got him suspended for a while. Calling his father was a nice touch, though.
#19 Mar 24 2008 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Did you already know that he played on your server? There are over 200 US realms, plus horde/alliance side. The chances that your neighbor's son happened to choose your realm and faction are less than 1 in 400.
#20 Mar 24 2008 at 3:02 AM Rating: Default
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If the people in this thread are right, I have the mentality of a four year-old and need adult supervision.

Help, help! I need an adult!

edit: Though to be fair I'm a really funny four year-old.

Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:03am by Theophany
#21 Mar 24 2008 at 3:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Theophany the Sly wrote:
If the people in this thread are right, I have the mentality of a four year-old and need adult supervision.


Why? Do you talk smack to random people in-game constantly?
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ProjectMidnight wrote:
There are over 200 US realms, plus horde/alliance side. The chances that your neighbor's son happened to choose your realm and faction are less than 1 in 400.


Which is why I dont believe it, nice story though.
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#23 Mar 24 2008 at 4:03 AM Rating: Good
Theophany the Sly wrote:
If the people in this thread are right, I have the mentality of a four year-old and need adult supervision.

Help, help! I need an adult!

edit: Though to be fair I'm a really funny four year-old.

Edited, Mar 24th 2008 4:03am by Theophany

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#24 Mar 24 2008 at 4:54 AM Rating: Good
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but on the internet your actions aren't meant to have real life consequences.


being a monday, too tired to start... but dude,... seriously?... you really believe that? go out side a bit and see how society have deteriorated over the years... all actions will have real life consequences... and we are ALL accountable for our actions, internet or not.
#25 Mar 24 2008 at 6:02 AM Rating: Default
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Gandie, I assume you are rude to a lot of people on-line and are afraid of the same thing happening to you?


You know what happens when you assume something don't you?

No. I, in fact, am not rude to people on line. Nor do I tolerate cussing.

If I am in the process of killing a quest mob and see someone run up I will send them an invite. If I am on my way to a quest mob and see someone else on the way I will whisper them and ask them if they want to group for it. However; If I'm at a quest mob either clearing around it or just getting ready to pull and see someone running up I will get the first hit on the mob asap. I will then if able invite them or whisper them asking if they want to group. I have learned that just because I'm there. Just because I'm clearing the room the mob is in. Does not mean the person running up wont snatch the mob out from under my nose.

If I see someone fishing a fishing hole I move to the next one. I do this in spite of the fact I know 99% of the time that person would not hesitate to come cast in my hole. If I see someone is already mining a node I don't try and move in on them.

How ever. If I show up at an escort quest NPC I rush to click him. I do this because I know this game is a dog eat dog game. If someone else starts the quest before me I don't send them a tell telling them they are rude. It’s a waste of breath and invites them to reply telling me to go stuff myself.

This man sent this boy a tell first. This man invited this kid to have a dialogue with him. A hostile dialogue as the first words out of the mans mouth where fighting words.
Man - "You are rude!"
Boy - yeah, so are you, go stuff yourself.

Man runs tells boys daddy he acted badly in a game to him.

Boys dad punishes boy not because he deserved it but because the busy body neighbor complained about him.

What I assume from everyone else’s response is that you all get into verbal fights with people in game and feel that you being in the right its ok for you to send tells to someone but they being in the wrong should not reply to you.

I don't see this kid starting the quest without waiting to see if the toon next to him was typing to him as wrong.

I see a toon filled with self righteousness and a holier then thou attitude sends another toon a tell saying. You are rude. I see that other toon responding. F you . You are rude also.

How you see anything else is beyond me.
#26 Mar 24 2008 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
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This is a really funny story. I may have handled things a little differently, however, you weren't in the wrong at all. Just imagine the leverage if you held this over his head for a while. Send him a printed screenshot in the mail with no return adress and let him know there is one adressed to his father on it's way next. He would have been checking the mail constantly. Or maybe mess with him in game. Send him mail in game, telling him that you found him and that you were making him a special little project of yours. Make him sweat.
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