BG banesFollow

I keep hearing how affliction locks and fire mages are the new terrors of the BGs but the thing that consistently slaughters all my toons across the board is those @#$% mage elementals.

So what's your new bane (other then having the GY rez not work 3-5 times in a row)?

I'm smashing rogues and pretty much everything else; dunno about other rets. Then again i play like a cheap *******. 1600 resi, full self-healing talents so i can outlast anything. I'm even @#%^ing frost mages just by getting into range of the elemental or M.Images and building holy power to heal and spanking them from range with procced exorcism and avenging wrath auto-crit hammer of wraths (TM). All i do these days is solo molten core, zulgurub and do a few BGs to destroy people. And headless horseman runs too i guess.

When playing alts though, frost mages are pretty stupid. Good ones know how to exploit the current situation, and just freeze you at any opportunity and get a enormous ice lance crit before you can possibly dispel or escape it. Hell, the 25 second cd pet freeze even gives you free fingers of frost procs to slam more huge ice lance crits even at unfrozen targets. I went into a few BGs to pocket-healer my friend who plays one, he had 5 times more killing blows than the next guy BG after BG. Instant spells shouldn't hit nearly as hard especially with that kind of uptime. He has enough haste for 4 ice lances per deep freeze too. If you haven't got trinket up, kiss your *** goodbye.

Nothing else really stands out, maybe druids. Ferals are doing sick damage, but luckily they are rare and those that do show up are pretty bad anyway. Feral is hard to play well. My feral can crit for over 9k with rip ticks on zero res targets, it's really stupid if you reforge full mastery. Feroious bites of nearly 30k too on cloth. He's fun to play in BGs like strand where you get good battles with horde and alliance all mixed together in one area. Haven't met a healer i couldn't destroy yet.

Edited, Oct 27th 2010 11:32pm by ArtemisEnteri

Eh, the good rogues won't be running Quickening, most will run Imp Recup/Puncturing Wounds instead.

http://cata.wowhead.com/talent#fMhcZbZfGccducoho:zMakMb

Will greatly help Sub PvE. I like the change.

Everyone is my bane these days. I can't even kill warriors one on one anymore and they used to be like tasty sandwiches for me. To be fair though, it's hard to tell how much of that is balance and how much is me just not being very good at my new spec yet. I suspect 20/80 with my skill being the 80. The 20 is the mages and locks who can still 2 shot me even with over 1400 resil (I also have 2 pieces of Relentless left).

:lol:

No offense meant Art, but you sound like the guy from the Old Spice commercial, wow edition. "Anybody can solo Molten Core when they smell like a ret pallie with 1600 resi!".

The last time I did BGs I had the most problems with Feral Druids. They are literally ridiculous. Imagine this scenario: we went into an AB 'pre-made' (7 or 8 guildies, rest PUGgers). Our social-rank resto shaman in somewhat lowish gear was guarding the farm alone. He yells for help on vent, and me (hateful geared rogue), our guild's resident retadin (who now has Shadowmourne), and our guild's resident warrior (I'm not sure if he does arenas, but he's sporting relentless with some wrathful pieces, I think) respond to the call.

We head down to the farm and arrive just in time to see our social shaman healer die. Our warrior bears down as I open up with a Cheap Shot. The druid, who is still in cat form, trinkets my KS and pops bear form at 60%. At this point, we fight on for literally about 25 seconds, after which we've got the druid on 20% hp. He pops his healing abilities and CDs, drops to 10% for a split second, but then starts outhealing all the damage we're throwing at him and slowly goes back up to 30%. At the same point, my Cheat Death procs, and I die a couple of seconds later.

About now, our social shaman has rezzed and arrives back at the battle, and heals up our warrior and retadin (which apperantly have both been hit down to 70% by Swipes/other AoE abilities), and after another ten seconds or so, they finally manage to down the druid.

Now I know I'm playing like an idiot after a year of roguelessness, then even moreso than now, and that I should've sprinted the hell out of there or popped some stuns, but... We had the drop on this guy in kitty form, and he managed to 100-0 me in bear form without dying, while a ret paladin and arms warrior were bearing down on him. Seriously?

Holy Pallies are disgusting atm. I didn't realize how bad they were til i tried to kill one. I stood on one of the horde base towers in IoC and wailed on one watching his hp basically not move at all and his mana go up.

Normally killer combos like waiting for hand of light procs then using wings and hammer of wrath, stun, TV, TV hammer of wrath brought him pretty low then just instant casts to 100% again.

I would expect to do enough damage that the paladin would eventually go oom, and then i would set up a large burst during divine plea. Most of the healing comes from free word of glories though so there is almost no need to use mana 1v1. The only class that comes close is frost mage really. Spamming icelance during deep freee then blanket counterspell might kill a holy pally except light of dawn can be used while silenced.

I had a stalemate duel against an arena master affliction lock where i managed to keep myself alive after being completely drained of mana because blessed life gave me holy power every two seconds from felhunter hits and dot applications. That's being nerfed to an 8 second internal cooldown i believe and protector of the innocent will only proc from healing others ( change i absolutely hate because it's a massive nerf to all the ret and prot soloing i've been doing lately. A 4k heal wont be op at 85).

Being a holy paladin basically allows me to pvp without resilience. Only a few times have I seen myself die quickly and wish I had some. I cant imagine what it would be like in PvP gear. I did get crit for 29k by an Arcane Blast the other day, that was quite upsetting. And a Feral Druids dots are terrifyingly powerful.

I was in Alterac Valley yesterday and managed to double the second placed Healer on the meters, I done 3million total healing and only died twice. Considering Alliance only won that battleground with two reinforcements remaining, I think it is safe to say I made a difference.

I have been finding any class that applies DoTs is veyr powerful right now, shadow priests do alot of damage, but I can dispel all the DoTs with 2 dispels. Ferals are horrific because the dots are undispellable apart from my racial. Also I havent fought enough Ferals to learn the Icon for each of their abilities, I dont know which of these debuffs I should be panicking when I see on myself or a teammate.

Thanks for the nerfs, Moz.

Being useless in PvE feels good now.