More specifics about PvP gear in Cata...Follow

I approve this plan. In particular the availability of two weapons. I like that they're still keeping in some rewards for people with higher ratings.

I'd like to get greedy and ask for yet a third tier weapon that's available for honor points only, similar to what they'll be doing with armor, but maybe that's something they'll do later in the expansion when there are more tiers.

I doubt everyone will bother to gem and enchant another set of gear, but it's a neat idea.

Idunno about this...if you don't lose rating from a loss...won't everyone be on the same playing field? If so how can you really tell the pros from the baddies? /confused

Wait, what? Where does it say that?

Wayyy back when they first announced the rated battlegrounds. They were specific about saying you wouldn't lose rating for losses, but you wouldn't get points either. If you win, you get showered with rating and points. If you lose, you get rocks. But nobody is risking losing anything they've already got.

If I Google to look for it though I can find secondary sites that say this, but not the original Blizzard source.

Might they have been saying that *below a certain threshold rating* you would not loose rating?

Let me just add that the way the "hidden" rating (the MMR) and your "visible" rating (arena team or personal rating) work does do this at the beginning:

Your MMR starts at 1500, your TR is at 0. Your TR moves as if you have won/lost to a foe with their MMR, and your MMR moves according to their MMR as well. This means until your TR catches up to your MMR, it will always appear you are defeating people way better then you and thus you are "showered" with TR points. However, once you catch up they tend to move together (although the MMR should be more responsive, eg move faster per win/loss).

I could see a system where you can't loose TR, but it would require you do not *gain* TR, even for wins, if your TR is higher then your MMR (or, say, I don't know, 200 points higher). If BG rating is what they are saying: cannot go down, then can you not just win only 10% of your matches and still climb up to larger and larger ratings? It would be very, very different from the arena rating and I can't imagine they would go that far.

Or is it possible that Bliz meant you will not loose whatever the super-honor-points are? It goes without saying that you roll into an instance and even if you eat floor you are not going to be stripped of badges of frost (or whatever the new points are called: justice?)

That's kewl - it really sucked that there were no LK PvP weapons that didn't require arena rep yet to have a chance in the arenas you needed to raid and get something that was already as good or better then the arena rep weapons.

I like the fact that you can get pvp weapons without a rating. I just recently started getting into pvp and while not that good I could never get high enough to get weapons. That doesn't mean it'll make me amazing or anything but with the extra resil it would definitely help with some survivability.

I liked when people didn't care about winning though. I remember playing a rogue/druid in 2's I believe they had a combined 18k health total. I loved free wins.

I hope rated battlegrounds make them more fun to do. I always hated those incompetent people who didn't know what to do, or the people who simply didn't care. It will be nice if it'll make people play harder.