Bad PvPers...Follow

This guy broke every rule of PvP tonight, so I thought I'd make an educational thread aimed at the four rules of PvP.

1) Know your gear. In my example BGtard, he has no idea what he's socketing for. He has a crit Battlemaster trinket, crit gems, crit/stam gems, etc. Know what stats you're looking for.

2) Know your spec. Cookie-cutter PvP specs are cookie-cutter for a reason. Taking the 3 points out of Vile Poisons to put in Ruthlessness isn't smart, since a lot of rogue's unmitigated damage comes from Wound Poison procs. Take points out of Lethality first.

3) Don't continually go after someone after they /spit, /rofl, /clap, /golfclap, etc at you. Especially after they just wiped the floor with you and they only had 50% of their HP when you opened. Case in point, I'm at 50% HP, out of stealth and I get cheap shotted. I trinket, gouge, vanish, premed/ambush, ks, rupture, dismantle and shortly thereafter he's on the floor.

This didn't just happen once either. TWELVE FREAKIN TIMES. In fairness and full disclosure, he killed me once after two spriests and a boomkin got me to 100 HP and I was eating.



4) Just because you have 100,000 lifetime HKs doesn't mean you're god's gift to PvP. It just means you play AV a lot. To go along with this, don't ever think you're the best player in a BG, as eventually you'll run into someone as I did that's much better than you and they'll destroy you (ran into Tosan in S3 in an AB match... yeah). Assumptions about another person's skill is bad.

Just thought I'd share. I was laughing for the last half of the BG (I was at stables and he'd rez and come straight for me) when he was futilely trying to get at least one legit kill on me.

Edit: oh, also. WORST PREMADE EVER (the team playing against us).

Edited, Sep 23rd 2010 9:13pm by Theophany

This is something that always amuses me. As you can imagine, I rarely kick anyone's ***. But I do sometimes prove hard enough to kill that someone nerdrages and decides to stalk me. You'd think after half a dozen unsuccessful attempts they'd get embarassed and leave, but it just seems to make them madder. My favorite is that on several occasions I've had people stop attacking my flag carrier and let him run away, because they had such tunnel vision about killing me. If it was peel off the healer while my friend kills the FC, fine, but I'm talking about letting him run away alone, unopposed, to cap the flag.




You also need to know your class for yourself, though, because most of the PVP cookie cutters you'll find through research are for arena. The optimal arena spec is not necessarily the optimal BG spec, and you need to know which talents to tweak accordingly if you're only doing the latter. One of the fun things about Cataclysm is that we'll start seeing battleground specs separate from arena specs.

I had this happen to me the other day. I was defending stables by myself on my lock, when this other lock comes speeding over the bridge on this mount. I Shadowfury (don't know if it was necessarily the wisest opener, but I was expecting to get feared and and had my succy out, so no bubble), Immolate, Conflagrate, Chaos Bolt, and he drops. He got a couple of DoTs on me, so I sat down and ate while they wore off.

A minute later this guy is back again, with the same results. Then it happens a 3rd time, and a fourth, and a fifth...

The thing that starts to strike me is the guy is doing pretty much the exact same thing each time. Now I'm no PvP expert, but variety being the spice of life, and not repeating the same thing over and over again when it fails, and such. I never once got feared, stunned, drained, etc. He'd come over the bridge, stand there and DoT me up, I'd drop him, he'd release, and I'd have a snack while the DoTs wore off.

It was fascinating.

Oh and we lost the BG btw. Darn level 70 twinks.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 11:53am by someproteinguy

There's bots that do that. Bots are very difficult to tell from extremely bad players except when they end up just standing alone and idle at their camping spot. Another telling sign is that they tend to attack pets furiously and focus on pets even if there's other players around and the pet is a voidwalker.

When I find someone who I think is a bot I ask team members their opinion if they think it is a bot and then start sending whispering messages to the person who I think is a bot. If he doesn't answer I create a char on his servers and send him party invites, and if he doesn't accept or decline I create a ticket.

On the ticket I include:
1) I think it is a bot. Explaining bot behavior.
2) Other players think so too.
3) Does not reply tells.
4) Does not accept nor decline party invites.

Edited, Sep 24th 2010 3:18pm by xorq

Yes, I've seen bots that move while attacking and bots that heal teammates. They move if you go outside range of their abilities. What they don't do is run away or hide behind LoS or run to the powerup bonuses to grab them, or run to healers asking for a heal, those are usually telling signs that the character isn't a bot.

Missed two -

1) Epic PvE gear does not equal you being an epic PvPer

2) Just because you're packing 1k+ resil doesn't mean you're an epic PvPer

Yes, gear does help and against someone of equal skill will hands down make the difference, but it only makes that big difference if the other guy isn't better then you.