Cata PVP flavor of the monthFollow

I'm going to guess it will end up being, Spoilermages that will start off OP and take a while to fix. I would go pally but that is sooo early WotLK.

Some one should make a poll.

I remember at the moment every ret pally was massive QQ about how bliz was destroying ret paladins and I was warning that this was making them OP for PvP. But I guess the majority were the voice of reason and I was the lone QQ'er (who at the time played mainly Paladin).

Seriously, most of the things I say I think are OP are things that I've been abusing in game. If you want to call it efficient use of game features fine, I'll continue making efficient use of game features.

As for Cata FOTM, my expectation at the moment is on rated BG teams composed in 70%+ of rogues+druids and 30% or less of the rest of the classes. Not because either Rogue or Druid will be the OP but because strategies based on them will be.... efficient use of game features.

Shadowstep allows you to teleport to the cannons in Strand of the Ancients, from there you stealth and sneak past gates you haven't destroyed and cap the graveyards [as soon as a gate breaks and before the defending team has a chance to retake positions]. Efficient use of game features for rated Strand of the Ancients.

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Edited, Sep 20th 2010 12:54pm by xorq

I tried but it didn't work :(

Edited, Sep 20th 2010 10:42am by RAWDEAL

Every passive increase to stealth or stealth detection has been removed. It's yet to be determined what's the detection range going to be. If it's equal or less to 10yd frontal cone of fire you're going to be sapped before you can unstealth a rogue.

Wasn't Gushing Wound removed?

I'd bet on warriors - the arms tree looks godly at the moment - but they're still too gear dependent for early dominance.

In Wotlk they weren't, they were strong against rogues and sometimes against hunters. They're the hardest class to play.

In Cata Whirlwind damage has been reduced to 50%, I think this means the damage of Bladestorm is also reduced to 50%. If that's the case bladestorm pretty much becomes just an extra Escape Artist button.

/cast bladestorm 
/cancelaura bladestorm

I'm not saying warriors will be weak or that bladestorm will be useless, but if bladestorm damage is reduced 50% then the only way in which it will be useful is as a snare remover.

What I'd like to see is stance restriction being removed from pummel or arms working in Zerker stance again just like in TBC. Really, the reason why battle stance wasn't used until wotlk was because you couldn't use pummel, and the reason why arms warriors use battle stance now isn't because they like it, it's just that you're forced to use it because your rotation is dependent on rend-overpower. Nobody wanted to be in battle stance and the reason was pummel.

And I don't think Arms looks very good right now, It looks more like Prot will be the PvP spec.



I would have liked to just have a bleed that refreshes it's duration if the target moves. It doesn't need to do more damage than rend, just refreshing duration would have been good enough.


Edited, Sep 21st 2010 12:09am by xorq

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PTR notes on mmo-champion say pummel will be usable on battle stance now.

If you have played warriors and hated the stance dancing, that single change will be a big relief on that. There's still things that need improvement but it looks like this time around warriors are getting much better class design.

Hunters have generally only been average as BM; the best are usually MM.

Mirrored Blades, while nice, doesn't make it a requirement in PvP. Deterrence is pretty damn awesome already.

Silencing shot is really the key IMO, it's pretty much the only reason to spec into MM after pets got disarming effects (and it was taken off Chimera Shot).

SV looks good too, though.