They FINALLY fixed Combo Points. Sorta.Follow

ABOUT FREAKING TIME.

Seriously.

Now can we please get a fix to Combo Point Finishers requiring Energy to use, pretty please? No other class has abilities that use TWO resources simultaneously that I'm aware of.

Nice I have a rogue and a druid its nice that you wont be loosing combo points. and I don't even have to use that skill to xfer them.

Im guessing it will be for the Xpac???

No, they're introducing a toy system. A tab in your spellbook is where all of your fun use items will go, which should still save up a lot of space if you're anything like me. It lays the foundation for a tabard system, though. I don't think we're far off.

Oh, and don't forget their promises to make most items stack to 99 or 200 I forget which.

That alone will clear out most of my guildbank (I have a tab full of windwool bolts and another with lots of ghost iron).

The combo point mechanic was retarded to begin with. Trion realized this and managed to fix it in their 1.11 patch. We'll get a fix in our 6.00 patch? Good sh*t.

But at least this takes care of my indecision regarding the level 100 talents. No need to have Thrash spread Rake now when I can do it without losing the accumulated combo points. Time for some passive Savage Roar!

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 1:25pm by Mazra

They are, actually!

It's one of the perks for Assassination only.

Cute, so one out of 4 specs gets to avoid the stupid short-term buff that takes 5CP to use.

lol.

Too bad I always favor Combat, eh?

IMO: Get rid of SnD altogether, make melee speed 40% faster for all rogues, OR balance it around not having the 40% faster melee speed and/or make Eviscerate do actual damage for Combat -OR- give them a new Finisher that does actually do damage.

That way, Rogues (and Ferals if you did the same to Savage Roar) would be right in line with Ret Paladins. (They'd still be slightly 'harder' because you'd still have Rip/Rupture, whereas Ret Paladins have nothing now except WoG/TV/DS).

It seems kinda stupid to make an easy class even easier, but leave the harder classes alone. I just don't see the "balance" there.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 4:47pm by Lyrailis

Just on that thought, it's frickin weird to be walking around with combo points on you instead of the target. Standing in Sanctum at the auction house the other day and my 5 year old is asking me why there were 4 little skulls under my name. I'm not sure that's the best solution either as it seems out of place. Maybe they should drop off after 30 seconds or something? It's not really a "combo" if you're applying the finishing move 27 hours after building the points.

Not defending it per se, but I'll just throw this in there, it does change things up a bit, and not necessarily in a bad way. My pulls go completely different depending on how many points I have on me. Since you aren't starting every new target with zero points on them every new target gets approached differently. My guess is that good rogues will learn how to target swap with the "right" number of combo points, or apply a finisher to the appropriate target, or know what builder to use on the new target based on how many points they're bringing with them, etc. There's still plenty of room to play skillfully, it just changes the rules a bit.

Edit: As a simple example: you'll want to ramp up ASAP during a target swap, so making sure you finish the previous target with 5 combo points means you get to apply a 5-combo-point buff/debuff immediately instead of building to it. Now that might not be worth it if you have to "hang" at 5 combo points for the last 6 seconds of combat on the old target. Knowing when to use a finisher during a target swap is still plenty important, but in a different way.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 3:18pm by someproteinguy

You mean Chi, not Holy Power?

Holy Power and its abilities don't use Energy, while Chi does.

WW Monk is what Rogues/Ferals should have been from Day One. When I first heard Monks were an Energy-Based class I was like "OMG EEW NO!!".

But then I decided to give it an actual try, and about Lv20 or so I was like "Woah! This is awesome! Why can't Rogues and Ferals be this fun!?"

And I still have that feeling to this day.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 6:26pm by Lyrailis

Except a Paladin never goes OOM unless he's been spamming Flash of Light, lol.

But yeah, I was just somewhat nitpicking.

Though the "Out of Energy" crap does get old after awhile. That's why I love Monk so much -- Chi Abilities do not cost energy thus their GCDs give Energy time to regenerate while you're throwing those Tiger Palms, Blackout Kicks, Rising Sun Kicks, etc. When you finally DO run out of energy, you can pop a Brew to recover it. By the time you run out of Energy again, your Brew should be either up, or nearly up depending on your gear (Haste, mainly).

Meanwhile, EVERYTHING a Rogue does ('cept for Adrenaline Rush) and EVERYTHING a Feral Druid does (except Faerie Fire and using Pred. Swiftness spells) costs Energy which means almost zero time to recover Energy.

Therefore, you stare at darkened hotkey bars all day and the very second something lights up, you push it... because you have to.

Edited, Apr 21st 2014 6:53pm by Lyrailis