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I was enjoying FFXIV up until the point I had to do a group/dungeon quest to continue the storyline and couldn't find a group for it after two 30+ minute stints in group finder.

I haven't heard much about Elder Scrolls Online, but there's a thread about it in General Game. Might be worth checking out since you're in the market for a new MMO.

ESO isn't out yet, having only just recently had their first beta event. My opinion was that it's pretty much Skyrim with other people and slightly worse combat, though.

GW2 is always worth checking out.

Where you from, Borsuk? I'm right across the bay from LBI in NJ, so I know what you mean.



SWTOR is a REALLY solid game. But it's solid for reasons you don't typically equate with MMOs. It's essentially a great single player game, with solid replayability.

The PVP games are fun enough, and I hear they're reasonably balanced, but it's not really a PVP game (and I don't think they have an arena system). I never hear much of anything about raiding, but I know there IS a raiding population. Dungeons are fun enough as you go through.

They just introduced PVP space battles, which people seem to be excited about?

But essentially, imagine a single player BioWare style RPG with multiplayer elements (like heroic areas/quests and group quests that actually involve group dialogue and such).

And the F2P model, while way over-monetized at first, has evened out to a pretty fair place for someone coming in. I'd still suggesting making A purchase, to get preferred status, but that's all you really need to spend. And you can easily evaluate whether or not you enjoy the game before doing that.

So, TL;DR: SWTOR is definitely worth trying. If you're not going to be interested in an RPG that focuses on story, it might not be for you, but there's nothing particularly wrong with it.

It's decently polished. It's biggest issue is that it doesn't reinvent much outside of the story. But it definitely deserves a lot of praise on the story front.

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SWTOR had come a long way since launch. It's F2P system is an annoying series of hoops to jump through, but the game itself is pretty solid. They've filled in a lot of the gaps over the last year or two. TERA was a fun diversion for a couple months (and a newer game as well), but after you get over how awesome the combat feels you're left with a sub-par story and all the fun of a grindy Asian MMO.

SWTOR was fun. I haven't touched it in over a year though. Story was top notch. Raiding was solid.

I have been tempted to try ff14 but reality I barely have time for work and wow.

The thing about ESO is I wonder just how the crap they're going to balance that stuff.

The whole premise behind Elder Scrolls games is that you can train your character in any way you want, by doing things. Want to raise Restoration? Go cast some Restoration spells. Want to raise Heavy Armor? Wear Heavy Armor into battle and get hit.

Makes for simply awesome Single-Player games (like Skyrim).

But for MMOs.... anyone can be anything, there's no grouping value in that. If everybody was able to level up Restoration, Heavy Armor, 2-Handed Weapons, Destruction, and Archery..... where, again, do you get the Group content when everybody is a Jack of All Trades?

Sure, you could limit that by placing your choice of a million different systems in the game....

..........but would it still be an Elder Scrolls game? You can't call it "ELDER SCROLLS Online" if it doesn't even feel like an Elder Scrolls game (because you put restrictions on what your character can be or do). That just seems silly to me. You can't remove/limit/restrict the #1 thing that makes an Elder Scrolls game, an Elder Scrolls game in the first place and still call it "Elder Scrolls Online".

That's what's getting me about this whole thing.

Actually, I'll check it.... yeah, looks like they implemented a Class System with Skill Trees.

Not sure if it'd feel like an ES game, or "First-Person WoW". I suppose I'll wait and see until the YT videos start coming out.

Eeeeew.......PvP on top of that?

Assuming it is FPP, I wonder how many hit detection issues there will be, or are we going to get targets and range now like every other MMO has to avoid things like latency being a factor (WoW is bad enough with the "Target needs to be in front of you!" spam if you've got 150ms+; I couldn't imagine trying to hit someone with an arrow).

With LFR around, you don't need a raiding guild and you can do your weekly raiding at about 1 hour per raid per week. You'll still see all the bosses and at least get some purples for your character.

Or you could try Flex Raiding, or maybe your guild as you mentioned. There's still plenty to do for the non-raider, moreso than any other expansion before it.

SWTOR started off a really fun game.

I think lately I've been playing a Lot of indie steam games.

In fact, I just bought a new one (Valdis Story) for $4.

$4! (Actually it was $3.76, but who's counting? lol)

That's half the price of an average lunch. If I get at least 10 hours out of it, it'll be quite a bargain (considering that many $50+ Triple A titles only yield ~20 hours...).

And then there's things like Starbound which I've put 50 hours into and it is still in Early Access Beta (which means there's lots more to come!) and Terraria (111 hours so far and I've still a decent amount of content to see), it is yet one more nail in the coffin as to why I don't do console games anymore, and why MMOs are a thing of the past for me, except for WoW (because I still find it fun after all these years).

Though I think here near the end of MoP I might either give FFXIV a try, or muck around in Istaria for a bit while I wait on WoD. Depends on when WoD comes out; I estimate I should have my Armor / Bag Projects done by ~April '14. Stupid Daily Cooldowns, anyways.

Edited, Jan 1st 2014 8:10pm by Lyrailis

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