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#1 Jan 07 2013 at 10:24 AM Rating: Excellent
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So we had another thread on this but after all the spammers it's fallen off the first page Smiley: lol

You can see my pets here, in all their shiny glory! I've hit over 400 pet battle achievement points and just finished up the 15 level 25 achievements. I think I have PvE down pat, so I wanted to share some tips and some of my favorite pets.

First, the tips:

1. I love mechanical pets, because they effectively get 1 extra turn and 20% additional HP due to their racial. They also grind up beasts, which are the second-most common type of wild pet you'll find. However (and this might just be my own experience or a bug), their racial does not activate if they take an extremely strong final hit. If I had to guess, I would say that if the final hit would do more than their remaining health + 20% of their max health, they just die. I've exploited this weakness is several mechanical fights, but it sucks when a trainer does it to you. Again, this could be a bug.
2. A recent change to experience gains made it so that any pet that participates in at least one round of a battle gets full exp. You no longer need to kill off your high-level pets to get the maximum experience for your low level pet.
3. There's no good reason to NOT forfeit a fight. You don't lose exp or anything. When hunting for specific pets/breeds or against trainers, forfeiting is often a good idea.
4. Probably obvious to everyone by now, but most pets have several "breeds" that redistribute their stats to favor a specific category. My first inclination is that attack is best, but that's not always the case!
5. Once you have a couple pets at 25, leveling additional pets becomes SUPER easy. More on that in a bit.

So, I have some pets that are "hard counters" to certain pet families. For example, a snail-type pet is a critter (-33% damage from elementals) with an aquatic attack (Dive; +50% against elementals). This means that against an elemental I can dish out pain without taking more. There are hard-counters that are relatively easy to get for 8 out of 10 pet families. The hardest ones are against Dragonkin (Scourged Whelpling; I swear, this thing doesn't exist) and Beasts (Only the Kite from TCG is a flying with a mechanical ability). My counters are:

-Anti-Critter: Flayer Youngling (Rampage tears critters apart; Reflection is just gravy on top)
-Anti-Mechanical: Amethyst Shale Hatchling (Any Hatchling from Deepholm will work; they have Stone Rush though, which hurts them and can make capture a pain. And it was slightly nerfed recently; 1 round cooldown now).
-Anti-Aquatic: Jade Owl (Feels a little weak, but if Lift-Off hits your enemy will be more than half dead).
-Anti-Elemental: Rapana Whelk (Apparently a Shimmerscale Snail is better, but the Rapana Whelk is level 22-23 when you catch it. These things are BEASTS against elementals. This was my go-to choice for the Pandaren Spirit Trainers, and it could kill them easily... if Dive hit).
-Anti-flying: Celestial Dragon (But a lot of Dragon Whelps work here. Just need a good magic ability)
-Anti-humanoid: Twilight Spiderling (Any spider works; I prefer one with Brittle Webbing to Sticky Webbing because it does more damage, but Leech Life + Webbing is MONEY. Good self-healing and good damage).
-Anti-magic: Mechanical Pandaren Dragonling (Very interesting pet, with a lot of diverse abilities).
-Anti-Undead: Softshell Snapling (Almost any turtle works, but this is also kind of a weak counter: Powerball is a pretty weak move even doing 50% more damage).

Favorite pets: I only have a few that are my favorite pets, and they aren't necessarily hard-counters.
Flayer Youngling is one of my new favorites, and is the best pet for leveling other pets to 25. I HIGHLY recommend getting one (Breed 5, I think, is best; higher speed). He's humanoid, so 4% healing every round. And he wreck critters, which are the most common wild pets. Once you get this to 25, your best leveling spot is the Veiled Stair, right near the Black Market AH. The only pets in this area are level 23-25 critters. The Flayer Youngling, when played right, can effectively solo 3-4 packs of these before needing healing. Rampage will almost always kill a bit in two hits, leaving a third hit for the next critter (which puts it around or under 50% hp). Reflection is simply amazing when used correctly; use it on a pet that doesn't have a non-damage ability (some of the bandicoons in this area have Poison Fang, Counterattack, and Bite... Reflection stops you from taking a few hundred damage, and reflects it back at them). And not only is he great for leveling other pets, but in trainer fights Reflection is just an unfair attack at times. Against the Water Spirit, for example, Reflection allows you to avoid Geyser and Whirlpool, which are almost always set to hit in the same round, AND it will reflect the AoE attack. Awesome pet.

Fluxfire Feline is still my heavy hitter, and is still worth it against legendary pets... even as an uncommon. While he shines best against beasts, it will one-shot any pet with under 1700 hp. The trade-off is obvious: low hp, and loses a lot of usefulness against anything with a one-round avoidance ability, or a 50% damage reduction, or anything faster with Life Off/Dive/Burrow. Oh, and Magic enemies make him rubbish too, due to their racial. Still, that's MAYBE 5-10% of all the fights you'll ever face in PvE. For the rest, he's the one-trick pony or one-shot wonder.

An honorable mention goes to the Sea Pony, which I have nicknamed "Anti-Nishi." This one pet can solo The Pandaren tamer Nishi without any backup; this makes it perfect to score a few thousand exp with a lower-level pet. Nishi's Suhflower will only use two-abilities, and a Sea Pony will outdamage it, can change the weather, can heal, and can take out the back row before the sunflower dies. Almost no risk.

Anyway, that's all of my thoughts for now. The Safari Hat is nice for the exp bonus, and the Pristine Trap seems unnecessary. I have 325 unique pets right now, and I'm debating camping some of the rare ones (Scourged Whelpling, Fel Flame, etc). I haven't tried PvP because people are better than me and losing sucks Smiley: wink How are the pet battles going for everyone else?

Edited, Jan 7th 2013 12:54pm by LockeColeMA
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#2 Jan 07 2013 at 10:47 AM Rating: Good
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Nice write up Ive done some pet battles have a few in the low teens. Havent been hardcore into it but it has been enjoyable for sure. My engineer just made a personal world destoyer which im exited to level with some other blues i have. I kinda wish they had an overall xp distribution as they are part of a 3 pet team. It would be nice but...... anyway thanks for the write up :)
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#3 Jan 07 2013 at 11:39 AM Rating: Good
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I just went over 400 pets this weekend (up to 427). I have primarily been focused on collecting. I think now I'll need to start focusing more on leveling pets and working on the synergy.

My first group to level 25 was Clockwork Gnome, Tainted Moth, and Toad. Seemed like a good combo at the time. None are super heavy hitters, but generally have good survivability. Unfortunately, because of the way I approached collecting, I didn't get a humanoid, dragonling, or magic pet going soon enough. I'm behind the curve on leveling them and at higher levels, they are pretty strong.

I haven't messed with PvP for a while. I had the same experience LockeCole did...losing sucks. I really didn't like the matchup mechanic either. Don't know if it's changed. But, I try to battle with, say, a 1 1 1 group and get matched against 1 2 3, or 2 2 2, or something like that. Basically, no chance to win.
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This is pretty much all I've been doing in-game as well is pat battles. Got the 400 achieve awhile ago, and basically my wow time now consists of logging on to do the 4 elemental dailies and then run around raising more pets up to 25 or doing the BWL/MC/AQ/Naxx circuit. There are still a few of the raid pets I'm missing although there are several I have gotten multiples of. Have 2 of the Pandaren Spirits so far.

Flayer Youngling is also one of my main go-to guys. Rampage & Reflect just tear through everything.
Infinite Whelpling is my other go-to fave. Mine is geared to power so tailsweep most always gets the 2nd shot in, that 3rd slot attack that hits twice if your hp is lower can be a monster, and if you use the heal after a big attack (dive/burrow/etc) I find myself healing for 7-800 frequently.

Some others I've grown to like quite a bit are Chuck (or any of those series) - the Rip/devour combo destroys critter packs quickly + heals, **** water can be swapped in against elementals for 1shotting, and consume/devour provides a more controlled heal-heavy set; Oily slimeling is great too as the dots can do a lot of damage to anything without a shield and it can heal. Snails are great too (mine is a Rusty Snail, maybe ought to raise up a couple other types.) Oh, and Li'l XT is awesome. In Kun Lai south around the farms and stuff there are a ton of beasts so Tantrum>Repair>Tantrum pretty much wipes out the entire team at once.

I swear though, moths and frogs to this day are the most obnoxious things out there.
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Got lucky yesterday while flying in the northern part of Azeroth; stopped in Arathi and lo and behold, Tiny Twisters were up for once!

... and just because azwing said he still needed them and didn't want to jynx his luck, I fought all of them myself Smiley: sly (No rares though)
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#6 Jan 09 2013 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Grats Locke!

I got my Tiny Twister yesterday, too. And, a rare one at that! :-)

I was up in that neck of the woods going for the Blighthawk--grr with that phased Andorhal stuff--so, I decided to swing by Arathi and see if any Tiny Twisters were out. Bingo! More than one was there, but the first one I tagged was rare, so I left the other for someone else.

Also snagged a rare Scorpling, another pet that I had been tracking for a while. I was on my way down to STV to do the ZG pre-quest stuff for the Lashtail Hatchling and used the Dark Portal to get to southern Eastern Kingdoms quickly. Anyway, I swung by the Scorpling area and several lit up...the first time I'd seen them. Woot! I tried ZG as Guardian, but I couldn't survive Mandokir's Decapitate even with all cooldowns blown. I'll have to go back in with a couple guildies.

Oh yeah, I also picked up a Fluxfire Feline. I realized yesterday I didn't have an Alliance Balloon. I abandoned my old Alliance toons near the middle of Wrath, and hadn't been back since. So, while I was there I thought I'd swing by Dun Morogh and check for the feline, which I'd never seen on my server. Well, there it was. Bingo! Only common, but oh well, I have it anway.

Still looking for the Baby Ape on Jaquero Island and the Silithid Hatchling in Tanaris. Both are weather dependent; I have alts parked in both locales, just waiting on the weather. Also still looking for the Scourged Whelpling. Took a look after server reset yesterday, but the campers must have already gotten them by the time I logged back in.

As for battling...I finished three of the four tamers in Northrend, but got stuck on Beegle Blastfuse in Howling Fjord. I don't have high enough magic pets and the other combos I tried just weren't working. I'll have to go back to it when I have leveled some magic pets closer to 25 (I only have one rare at 22 now). Also tried the Darkmoon guy, but I'm not ready for that...I got smoked.

ps. Is there any way to capitalize the first letter in my user name? Not sure how, but when I created the name how ever many years ago, I somehow effed it up.

Edited, Jan 9th 2013 11:04am by azwing
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azwing wrote:
Grats Locke!

I got my Tiny Twister yesterday, too. And, a rare one at that! :-)


Drat! My nefarious plan failed! Next time, Gadget... next time!
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ps. Is there any way to capitalize the first letter in my user name? Not sure how, but when I created the name how ever many years ago, I somehow effed it up.

Maybe, but I know I can't do it. Maybe contact Darqflame or Kaolian?
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azwing wrote:
Still looking for the Baby Ape on Jaquero Island and the Silithid Hatchling in Tanaris. Both are weather dependent; I have alts parked in both locales, just waiting on the weather. Also still looking for the Scourged Whelpling. Took a look after server reset yesterday, but the campers must have already gotten them by the time I logged back in.

I'm just going to hijack this into an update post :-)

Baby Ape - Check!
Silithid Hatchling - Check!

Finally got the sandstorm in Tanaris last night. It lasted long enough that I was able to hunt down a rare Silithid Hatchling. Once the storm is going the hatchling are all over the in the bug areas (Noxious Lair and Gaping Chasm). Plenty to go around.

The Baby Ape was a nail biter. I turned on my computer and logged into WoW while I was waiting for my Hot Pocket to microwave. Instead of waiting by the microwave, I decided to log into my toon camped on Jaquero Island. Boom! Rain! I quickly checked to make sure the level of pets I had out was appropriate, and lost a spawn to another camper in the process. But, nabbed the next one I could. It was only an uncommon, but oh well. I trapped it and got the achievement for EK Safari, yay! I was able to make one round of the island looking for more spawns before the rain stopped. So, if I'd waited at the microwave, I would have missed the rain...phew!

Still looking for the Scourged Whelpling and the Giraffe Calf. Those two look to be really tough to get.
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