So basically what you're telling me is that because you played for less than half of the expansion, the expansion sucked. Duly noted.
This also in, when you play MoP for less than half of the expansion, it'll suck too because the reps will take too long to grind.
No, because MoP gives a lot of "catch up" opportunities like Cataclysm (and Wrath) did. The reps do not take long at all to grind (about 2-3 weeks), and there is LFD and LFR to help you catch up. A Fresh 90 today could be geared for LFR within a month.
Try doing THAT in TBC -- getting a Fresh 70 geared to Honest-To-God Raiding Karazhan (NOT being carried) without being in a guild that is at your beck-and-call. You couldn't do it, period.
You're biased in this, and it's not a fair assumption to make that someone couldn't find a group to raid with just because you couldn't because you didn't want to do the legwork to get your gear up.
I tried. Do you have any idea how many hours
I spent in cities looking for either a guild that would take me, or a normal dungeon run to get geared? Many hours.
I did eventually get Karazhan-ready with my tank, but only after they added the Isle of Quel'Danas and its rep vendor rewards (sword and shield). And even then, I was just barely able to meet the requirements.
"Dungeon for the day"? Dungeons aren't limited. Heroics are, but you weren't geared for heroics; you were geared for normal dungeons, as you just said. You should have been pugging the crap out of normals until you could get to do heroics, and then you should have been doing as many heroics as possible.
The "Dungeon for the Day" comment was directed at Lich King and MoP -- you get extra rewards from your first dungeon done in the day. I obviously did not mean "Dungeon for the Day" when referring to TBC dungeons. Although, with how FEW players did Normals during Black Temple days, you were lucky you got 1 run a day.
Warriors were definitely accepted as a DPS class in TBC, they've always been an accepted DPS class. I did arena and raided with one of the best warriors I've ever played with (got to 2200+ with him in 5s as a 4-DPS cleave before it was in-vogue) and he never went prot except for laughs in premade BGs. I'll draw a comparison to FFXI: for a long time, RNG wasn't seen as a decent DPS class (mostly because no one knew how to play it well). I started playing it and doing math with others over at killingifrit, and proving in my EXP parties that RNG was actually an amazing DPS class, and all of a sudden RNG was the DPS class to bring.
Warriors worked as DPS when they were geared up to high levels
. You don't get that when you first start out -- damage output absolutely sucked during the entry gear levels and if you wanted a group, if you were a Warrior, you were told that you should be a tank. Those DPS warriors you saw? I'm willing to bet a lot of them were tanking Karazhan until they got the gear to do good DPS and then
they went as DPS.
The point is that if you want to DPS as a class that has a DPS spec, it's always viable. You will always be able to find a group that's willing to take a DPS that knows what they're doing with their class.
That is the case now
, but not so much then
You seem like you're far too unwilling to actually put yourself out there and actually try to do something, so you just throw up your hands and say it can't be done. You love the solo content, and seem to have an aversion to the real content in the game (well, anything that would actually require you to socialize, so anything before LFD).
My IRL job does not allow for an actual raiding guild; my hours vary day-to-day, week-to-week. I kinda-sorta have to play when I can. That is why I am not in a raiding guild. That is why I love LFD/LFR. It has nothing to do with my social skills.
Edit: Back in Cataclysm, I actually took somewhat of a break from Endgame -- I went Alt Leveling Hardcore until Patch 4.2 came out.
And even during 4.2, I didn't touch Heroics at all.
I started Patch 4.3 by being *barely* able to do HoT Heroics (which one could get by doing a week of solid Normals, two weeks of Normals if you only did a few a day).
I killed Deathwing in LFR about 2 months later, well in time before Patch 5.0.1 came out.
That shows how much the game has improved in the "Catch-Up" sense. Edited, Dec 23rd 2012 6:00pm by Lyrailis