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#27 Nov 29 2012 at 5:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hehe, Another major change to the game in what? 2 Months. I think blizzard needs to start making changes they can actually commit to. That way, the player base wouldn't have to adjust as often.


First off, in which way is this a major change? It brings us some new PvE stuff (scenarios, Brawlers Guild and a daily-driven storyline) and some class-balancing. That's nothing major in my book. Second, it is the nature of MMOs to constantly change. It prevents boredom.
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Hehe, Another major change to the game in what? 2 Months. I think blizzard needs to start making changes they can actually commit to. That way, the player base wouldn't have to adjust as often.


First off, in which way is this a major change? It brings us some new PvE stuff (scenarios, Brawlers Guild and a daily-driven storyline) and some class-balancing. That's nothing major in my book. Second, it is the nature of MMOs to constantly change. It prevents boredom.

Completely agree. I looked again and I couldn't spot any "major" changes. Some adjustments to classes, a new questhub, tweaks (read: improvements) to many features... perhaps the only "major" change is being able to upgrade items. And tit's, uh, not really major. You get 4-8 ilevels... it's something for those people with extra JP/VP and nothing else to spend it on.
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Hadn't seen this, and I'm really happy happy about it! I always end up with bags full of random cooking mats, just in case I really need to start making all that spirit food that my roster of zero healers might need...

Also, haven't seen it mentioned anywhere but the reset time for daily profession crafts has moved from midnight (imperial silk, the JC discovery, living steel transumte etc). Now it just says something like 'can be completed daily'. I assume they have moved to the 3am reset for dailies and instances. I'll kind of miss getting a head start on the next day sometimes if I knew I was going to be busy, but I guess that's what being only able to complete once a day should have meant from the start.
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Ok I can say that the 85-90 Enlightenment (Its only 20% not 50) does NOT stack with the WoW anni buff. I had the Anniversary buff up and did my daily and it didnt cast enlightenment on me. So If you get to 85 dont use your Anni buff if your a monk now im going to lose a ton of xp today from lvling without it.


The 50% Enlightenment doesn't stack either, which I found out the hard way. The only reason I'm still leveling my Monk is because of that buff. I'd forgotten how mindnumbingly boring leveling is. 1-60 isn't so bad now that they've redone the questing thing, but it still gets old way fast, especially when you've done it a bunch of times. And I've run so many dungeons that I'm already burning out on running dungeons. That's not supposed to happen until level 90, dammit. Smiley: lol

The next expansion should feature a level reduction or something. There's no way in **** I'm going to level the next class released to level 95 or 100.
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#31 Nov 29 2012 at 7:32 AM Rating: Good
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It might not stack, but the Pre-85 Enlightenment isn't cancelled (and you can receive it normally) even while the Anniversary buff is up, or at least it wasn't before 5.1.

I'll just play it safe and not use the package while I have Enlightenment I guess. Not that big of a deal. I won't be killing anything that gives rep I need from now until 90 anyways.
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They must have hotfixed it, because the WoW buff doesn't remove the Enlightenment buff now. Did last night.
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Some other things I kinda-sorta overlooked or didn't think about before:

1. At Revered reputation with MoP factions you can buy a reusable item that gives you a 100% rep buff for that faction. Will make going from Revered to Exalted a bit easier. I think it's BoA (or affects all toons on the account?) so it'll help alts too.
2. The Amber Shards repeatable for Klaxxi reduced the shard requirements from 20 to 5. That's going to ROCK when combined with the new rep booster.
3. Random scenarios now reward "Greater caches" which have an increased chance of a 463 rare, and a smaller chance to reward a random enchantment 476 epic.
4. There were over 100 rare monsters added in 5.1 in level 1-60 zones. I think they are mostly for hunters who want unique skins.
5. Golden Lotus can now be found on other herb nodes, like previous lotuses. Pretty sure the herbs respawn more slowly now though.
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1. At Revered reputation with MoP factions you can buy a reusable item that gives you a 100% rep buff for that faction. Will make going from Revered to Exalted a bit easier. I think it's BoA (or affects all toons on the account?) so it'll help alts too.

The Commendation medal are 35 gold per @ Revered, its a single use consumable, and affect all toons on the account permanently . I lvled my monk 88-89 in Townlong Steppes last night instead he's now Honored (6955/12000 to revered) with the Shado-pan. One thing I did notice is it shows up as a 50% buff, like it will say Your rep with Shado-pan went up 1000 (+500.0)

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2. The Amber Shards repeatable for Klaxxi reduced the shard requirements from 20 to 5. That's going to ROCK when combined with the new rep booster.

Why this wasnt always the case idk 20 was stupid to much for such a low drop rate




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The enlightenment buff is definitely being strange.

I was running my monk through HoL last night and just after entering noticed that the buff had dropped. I zoned out, transcended back to do the daily, and after getting a 1 hour buff I transcended back. As soon as I entered the instance the buff disappeared. I was not using the 8th anniversary buff but the other character was.

To be honest I'm not stressed about it. Levelling is so much faster than it was anyway. I just dinged 80 and am off to see the sea.
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The enlightenment buff is definitely being strange.

I was running my monk through HoL last night and just after entering noticed that the buff had dropped. I zoned out, transcended back to do the daily, and after getting a 1 hour buff I transcended back. As soon as I entered the instance the buff disappeared. I was not using the 8th anniversary buff but the other character was.

To be honest I'm not stressed about it. Levelling is so much faster than it was anyway. I just dinged 80 and am off to see the sea.


I would agree, kinda maybe, at lower levels but when 88-89 is 22.8 million xp and 89-90 is 27.5 million xp your talking about 10 mil xp shaved off from the 20% buff (88-90) which at most quests in the range giving 200k equals out to be about 50 quests saved, which isnt a huge amount but it is a few hours saved(approx 2 hours give or take).
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Good point but I'm not even started on Pandaria properly. I think I have 4 or five characters in the Jade Forest just for trade skills and stuff but all my 85s are still 85 (hmm I guess that makes sense).

Having the monk do it 20% quicker is going to be such a small improvement when the other 12 are not going to have the buff that I'm not that fussed. I'm not rushing.

I've also levelled my Mistwalker with AGI gear because it seemed a better stat to solo with. I never run out of mana and I don't have trouble killing stuff so piling on INT and SPI seemed a bit silly. I'm sure someone would like to tell me why I'm doing it all wrong? Smiley: smile
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Cobra101 wrote:

I've also levelled my Mistwalker with AGI gear because it seemed a better stat to solo with. I never run out of mana and I don't have trouble killing stuff so piling on INT and SPI seemed a bit silly. I'm sure someone would like to tell me why I'm doing it all wrong? Smiley: smile


IIRC, the Mistweaver stance negates any AP benefit from agility or attack power. So the agility, I think, will only give you some extra crit chance but it won't increase your damage any.

I mean, BoA gear is still great for the crit, stamina, and exp bonuses, but the main stats won't help you.

Edit: Oops, misread your spec. Nah, agility I think is fine for Windwalker (assuming you meant that one)

Edited, Nov 29th 2012 11:02am by LockeColeMA
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#39 Nov 29 2012 at 12:09 PM Rating: Good
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I think he means Mistwalker. Some Mistwalkers quest in Tiger Stance and then switch to Serpent Stance to heal dungeons or whatever. Since intellect no longer gives mana, you only need intellect gear for the spell power, which isn't really a big deal while leveling.

Honestly, though, if you're not running dungeons as the healer, it's much easier to just go Windwalker or Brewmaster if you've got the agility gear. Your self-healing in either of those specs is ridiculous. Both generate health orbs randomly and have access to Chi Wave, which is still pretty OP despite the nerf, so don't even worry about survivability. And spell power is going to be more important in Northrend and Cataclysm than Vanilla and Outland. Whether you have 400 spell power or not doesn't matter at level 80. Whether you have 2,000 or not does matter at level 85.

Also, tanking is easy as a Monk. Just pop Guard every 30 seconds (don't glyph it while leveling) and it doesn't matter what you do. Keg Smash holds aggro like a boss, and generates Chi, so you only really have to hit two buttons if you can't be ****** You can mix in some Blackout Kick for avoidance, Chi Wave for healing or Breath of Fire for damage if you want to spend your Chi on stuff. Also, when your brew hits 10+ stacks, pop it for 80% avoidance.* Smiley: waycool


*Assuming you have decent gear and keep up the Shuffle buff from Blackout Kick while popping the brew.

Edited, Nov 29th 2012 7:13pm by Mazra
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Mazra wrote:
I think he means Mistwalker. Some Mistwalkers quest in Tiger Stance and then switch to Serpent Stance to heal dungeons or whatever. Since intellect no longer gives mana, you only need intellect gear for the spell power, which isn't really a big deal while leveling.


I am so confused. What the heck is a Mistwalker? There's Windwalker (DPS) and Mistweaver (healing), right? Or is there a Mistwalker spec that I've missed somewhere along the way? Maybe it's an EU thing?

Edit: Or is it a player-created term for Mistweavers who DPS in Tiger Stance? My monks (who I've never gotten past 20 so far, incidentally), have both been Mistweavers who DPS like crazy and heal allies in dungeons if necessary (read: almost never). They're also pretty much impossible to kill without 5+ people or a stun in PvP. Usually only with 5+ people AND a stun Smiley: laugh


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#41 Nov 29 2012 at 2:52 PM Rating: Good
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Hey, don't judge me when I've been drinking.

I play the Mistmaster Monk and I enjoy it!
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My bad.
I meant Mistweaver.
And yes I level in Tiger stance. I just felt the need for self-healing if I wanted it.
If the Windpasser is that good and has the self healing anyway then I may as well dual-spec and see.
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My bad.
I meant Mistweaver.
And yes I level in Tiger stance. I just felt the need for self-healing if I wanted it.
If the Windpasser is that good and has the self healing anyway then I may as well dual-spec and see.

No worries, I was just confused because both you and Maz said the same thing and I thought I had totally missed something. As said, my Monks are under level 20 and are Mistweavers so far (though I keep on the healing stance... for some reason I thought you could only use your MW spells while in it?). I really enjoy it; but spell caster gear should see you doing more damage + healing than agility gear. Still, use whatever BoAs you have. And maybe agility is better if you stay in Tiger? Not sure.
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Give Windwalker or Brewmaster a try for leveling. If you find yourself in AOE situations often, it might be worth going Brewmaster over Windwalker. Fists of Fury is mildly underwhelming for AOE while Brewmasters have a powerful AOE on a short cooldown (Keg Smash) and another powerful AOE with no cooldown (Breath of Fire). One generates Chi, the other spends it.

I want to switch to Windwalker for leveling, primarily because of Tiger Stance's speed buff, but at my current level (50+), I'm way better off just sticking to Brewmaster. Keg Smash hits almost as hard as Tiger Stance's Blackout Kick, but it hits 5+ targets. Due to Keg Smash applying a snare on everything it hits, you also have easy access to a root (Disable roots snared targets) and Breath of Fire applies a DoT on everything it hits (and disorients for 3 seconds with the glyph). On top of that, you have abilities such as Guard, which effectively makes you indestructible in PvP and enables you to solo groups of elites without even slowing down.

I guess you've got access to Rising Sun Kick, though, so Windwalker might be a significant DPS boost. Just make sure you get Chi Wave. Zen Sphere is also pretty good, but nowhere near as powerful as Chi Wave, in my opinion. Sure, if you're doing a lot of big AOE pulls, Zen Sphere would come out on top, but Chi Wave makes you immortal in a 1v1 fight.

I still need to try out Mistweaver, but I don't have any leather caster heirlooms and I'm not buying armor off the AH (transmog prices have gone crazy - 1.5k gold for a level 49 armor piece). I'm a bit confused about the stance thing. I don't get why they didn't just remove the stances and apply the benefits to the specialization instead. It's not like Brewmasters switch to Tiger Stance ever. They'd lose all their survivability and gain no damaging abilities. I can see why some Mistweavers would want to switch to Tiger Stance - I guess - although you can level just fine in Serpent Stance, as long a you're wearing intellect gear.
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After two days of doing the new dailies I can say I wholeheartedly HAET them! Especially the "bonus quests" are designed so poorly it boggles my mind. I had to kill more than 50 mobs for the 6 questitems to drop and the reward did not even include reputation. /rage
Has anybody killed one or more of the three elitemobs in the "arena" and can tell me what can be gained by fighting them?

I will suck it up and push to honored as fast as I can to get one of the 496 rings. But I really don't enjoy this new quests. Not because they are daily but because they are bad.

Also the change to the raidfinder (so players can no longer see if any bosses are down) is utter bullcrap.

Other than that the patch is nice. But this two things anger me greatly.
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Never understood their fascination with RNG quest item drops. You set out to get ten items and kill between ten and a hundred enemies for them.

They should learn from SWTOR in that area and make some bonus objectives where you kill xx number of additional dudes to get the bonus. That way you always know how many more you need until you're done. The crap where you kill a dozen boars and none of them drop tusks... get out. Now. I saw they all had tusks - that's how they were able to Gore me!
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Update on Enlightenment: It stacks to 5h!

lol.

Will test 6h tomorrow.
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Update on Rep items : OP Leveling in Townlong Steppes took me to 8000/12k through Honored with Shado-pan, Leveling through Dread Wastes took me to 10k/21k Revered with Klaxxi, Only doing the dailies once + 2 Shard turn ins. Tillers doing the opening Learning how to farm + 1 set of dailies and im 10500/12k Honored I unlocked my 2nd plot on day one.

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Viscidus was ridiculously easy to solo as a feral druid. I actually respecced to get the Force of Nature talent, but when the boss froze solid I realized I had forgotten to put it on my hot bar. Before I could find it in my spellbook, he had shattered and I won Smiley: lol Got the pet, too.

Edit: Also, there was a hotfix patched in last night. C'thun no longer has his one-shot ability, so he can be soloed. And the Gunship no longer resets so it too can be soloed. Oh, and Reliquary of Souls doesn't use Spirit Shock as often. And last but not least, Al'ar is no longer immune to fire damage.

Pretty sure this leaves Kalecgos as the only un-soloable old raid boss. The rest just require some tactics, preparation, and a helping of good gear and skill.

Edit2: And IIRC, you can skip Kalecgos.

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Viscidus was ridiculously easy to solo as a feral druid. I actually respecced to get the Force of Nature talent, but when the boss froze solid I realized I had forgotten to put it on my hot bar. Before I could find it in my spellbook, he had shattered and I won Smiley: lol Got the pet, too.

Edit: Also, there was a hotfix patched in last night. C'thun no longer has his one-shot ability, so he can be soloed. And the Gunship no longer resets so it too can be soloed. Oh, and Reliquary of Souls doesn't use Spirit Shock as often. And last but not least, Al'ar is no longer immune to fire damage.

Pretty sure this leaves Kalecgos as the only un-soloable old raid boss. The rest just require some tactics, preparation, and a helping of good gear and skill.

Edit2: And IIRC, you can skip Kalecgos.

Edited, Nov 30th 2012 8:40am by LockeColeMA


Smiley: eek

Whelp I know what I will be doing this weekend. Smiley: laugh
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Viscidus was ridiculously easy to solo as a feral druid. I actually respecced to get the Force of Nature talent, but when the boss froze solid I realized I had forgotten to put it on my hot bar. Before I could find it in my spellbook, he had shattered and I won Smiley: lol Got the pet, too.

Edit: Also, there was a hotfix patched in last night. C'thun no longer has his one-shot ability, so he can be soloed. And the Gunship no longer resets so it too can be soloed. Oh, and Reliquary of Souls doesn't use Spirit Shock as often. And last but not least, Al'ar is no longer immune to fire damage.

Pretty sure this leaves Kalecgos as the only un-soloable old raid boss. The rest just require some tactics, preparation, and a helping of good gear and skill.

Edit2: And IIRC, you can skip Kalecgos.

Edited, Nov 30th 2012 8:40am by LockeColeMA


What about Razergore?

I was hearing some people going "you can't" and some said "I did", and then a Blizz guy said there's a new supposed tactic solo peeps are supposed to use, but I didn't quite understand what they were talking about (I've only seen the fight once).

I'd like to get the Judgment set (if I can find a pair of legs that goes along with the rest of the set; I ain't wearing no dress), so I'm kinda interested in that.
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