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#1 Oct 21 2012 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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Ok, so here is the deal, I will bookmark this thread and when it comes out who is actually the war chief will... uh.... get bragging rights for being right I guess... O.o My money is on Thrall, I don't see Metzen deviating from his avatar.... >.> <.<
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I dont think Thrall will comeback as War chief since hes basically the leader of the shammys. im thinking it will be ether Vol'jin or Baine Bloodhoof since they seem to be the only 2 horde leaders with at least some sense.
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Wrathion.
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The re-animated corpse of Durotan will show up, pimp slap Sylvannas and assume control of the Forsaken. It will then be decided that he will be the obvious choice for Warchief.


I figure if my guess is going to be wrong, it might as well at least be spectacularly so.
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Maybe Nazgrim..he's led the charge into the last 2 expansions. Maybe he'll be tired of fighting and want to make some sort of peace.

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Since noone mentioned him, Rexxar. Rather unlikely but have seen his name pop up from time to time in similar debates.
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Since noone mentioned him, Rexxar. Rather unlikely but have seen his name pop up from time to time in similar debates.


I remember him and his bear trudging disconsolately through the pass to Desolace. Then he seemed to go on holiday.
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Rexxar is found in the area of Outland with all the spiky rock formations last I checked. He's involved in some quests there.
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Rexxar is found in the area of Outland with all the spiky rock formations last I checked. He's involved in some quests there.


That'd be Blades Edge Mountains.

My highest Horde character is 23 Smiley: smile

I knew he'd make something of himself!

Back in Desolace he just seemed to be one of those world characters that were meant to slap the unwary and confuse you. Like the poor tauren girl who wandered up and down STV all day. I hope they found her a better posting.
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#11 Oct 22 2012 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
Baine sounds good. Or that Deathwing Child I found in an inn. Why not? A dragon leader, could be dope. Alliance runs in to kill him, he pops dragon. Would be fun for all.
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I had to post quickly, I keep forgetting that I'm going to the other subway station and it is a bit further away.

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Wrathion.


MMO-Champion has posted the dialogue from Wrathion's 5.1 quests:

Alliance includes this bit -

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We discussed the merits of your High King. I have been observing him closely.
It is true: he has the spirit of the wolf. And he fights like a wolf.
Having seen him in action, I now know what that means.
Wolves are pack animals.
Your King is calling his pack to him, assembling an Alliance in the truest sense of the word.


The Horde gets this -

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Do you recall our earlier conversation?
We spoke of your Warchief. His inner conflicts and his outer conquests.
I asked you: Who is the soul of the Horde?
Your efforts on Pandaria's southern shores and elsewhere have given me my answer.
YOU are the soul of the Horde.
Your actions in the coming weeks will come to define your people.


It looks as if the Horde are going to be portrayed as individualists; if I recall correctly, we see something similar in the starting Monk quests. Although there are strong figures in the Horde, it might be hard for any of them to step up as a leader. Certainly, there would be endless flame wars among the players, no matter who steps up.

On the other hand, who is going to tell Wrathion no? The Aspects burned out their powers to defeat Deathwing, but how much power does his heir wield? For that matter, why is he in the expansion at all? We remember him as just an egg, but look at him tossing about legendaries now.

Don't believe me? Picture this:

WOW 6.x "Hi, I'm Wrathion and I'll be taking over here. Hey! Look at that! Balls of green fire falling from the sky! Get 'em!"
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Back in Desolace he just seemed to be one of those world characters that were meant to slap the unwary and confuse you. Like the poor tauren girl who wandered up and down STV all day. I hope they found her a better posting.


Ah, yes, Samantha Swifthoof.

She got killed off in Cataclysm, I believe. She's no longer in the game. Smiley: frown

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My bet is on Thrall. I'm not sure how it'll work, but Blizzard has mentioned that the Horde will be "getting their Warchief back." I believe there's also a Horde-only quest series in 5.1 that'll bring Thrall back into the spotlight.

Baine, Vol'jin, and Rexxar will all have parts to play, but I don't see any of them becoming the new Warchief. If I had to take guesses on their roles, I'd say Baine becomes an Anduin analog for the Horde, Vol'jin turns on Garrosh first (and potentially dies or is exiled), and Rexxar comes back to the Horde and works with Thrall to rally the players against Garrosh. I'm really not sure what roles Sylvanas and Lor'Themar Theron will play, but man, does it seem like the Blood Elves have some fun coming up!

Wrathion, as mentioned, changes his dialogue depending on the side of the character. For both he seems like your best friend. If I didn't know that he's sane, I'd say he's totally playing both sides and is planning on swooping in in the same manner of his father to ***** everyone. He's definitely the shadiest character out there right now, but I can't help but like him. Might be because of the legendaries, though.

Edit: Also, the goblin's leader is still MIA. I'd imagine that after 5.1 he's the only pro-Garrosh racial leader for the Horde, however.

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Cobra101 wrote:
Mazra wrote:
Rexxar is found in the area of Outland with all the spiky rock formations last I checked. He's involved in some quests there.


That'd be Blades Edge Mountains.

My highest Horde character is 23 Smiley: smile

I knew he'd make something of himself!

Back in Desolace he just seemed to be one of those world characters that were meant to slap the unwary and confuse you. Like the poor tauren girl who wandered up and down STV all day. I hope they found her a better posting.


He also defended Orgrimmar during the events right before the Shattering. I think he's been missing since then.

There are a lot of characters I want to see come back into the story. Calia Menethil is probably the main one; I find it hard to believe that she hasn't reappeared in some way (I always figured she would get married to Varian Wrynn and become Anduin's stepmother). Turalyon and Alleria will reappear in the next expansion, it's been strongly hinted. I'm hoping their son, Arator the Redeemed, shows up again before then to set up the events for it. I'm glad Rexxar is coming back. Me'dan and Garona should show up again at some point (if Garona still alive? I think she is...). Fingers crossed that this'll all be answered some day!
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Sylvanas or Vol'jin, if not .... a council will be formed.
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Sylvanas is unlikely since she has a rather bad standing with the other faction leaders of the Horde. But seeing her as Warchief would really appeal to me. I liked her in WC3 and the more twisted and ruthless she becomes the more I like her in WoW.
Maybe she could take hostages or use some other form of leverage to prevent the rest of the Horde from overthrowing her. One can always wish. Also it would surely spark the Alliance-Horde conflict.
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Maybe Nazgrim..he's led the charge into the last 2 expansions. Maybe he'll be tired of fighting and want to make some sort of peace.

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I still say that Nazgrim and Proudmoore are going to become BFF's by the end of the expansion.

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Maybe she could take hostages or use some other form of leverage to prevent the rest of the Horde from overthrowing her. One can always wish. Also it would surely spark the Alliance-Horde conflict.


I think the Horde-Alliance fighting is slowly going to start calming down. After all Wrathion stated that we need to stop fighting among ourselves or we won't be able to stand up against the oncoming danger. I suspect whoever get's put on the throne will be a person who wants peace.
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I think the Horde-Alliance fighting is slowly going to start calming down. After all Wrathion stated that we need to stop fighting among ourselves or we won't be able to stand up against the oncoming danger. I suspect whoever get's put on the throne will be a person who wants peace.


That's true to an extend but they still need some kind of conflict between the two factions. Otherwise all BGs won't make much sense anymore. Or they just ignore that. Like they ignore the Azeroth - Outland time discrepancy and other stuff. Smiley: frown
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Frustrated by Thrall's decision to scout Northrend instead of mobilizing the Horde right away, Garrosh challenged the warchief to a duel in the Ring of Valor, but an assault by the Lich King's minions cut their bout short. Garrosh and the warchief still have some unfinished business.

so i belive that they will bring thrall back to lead the charge against Garrosh whith the help of the leaders of the other factions of horde that hates Garrosh, and seeking help from the alliance, ofc so they can join to kill garrosh as the last boss off mop. more like lich king was one of the leaders of alliance and horde helpt to kill him.

after that i belive that eighter "High Overlord Varok Saurfang" or former nemmesis to the throne after thrall "Rehgar Earthfury" wil be the new leader.


Thrall made Garrosh Hellscream one of his advisers. This position was also granted to gladiator master Rehgar Earthfury. Rehgar and Garrosh have very different viewpoints: Garrosh wanted to destroy the Alliance, the Horde's enemy, and take Azeroth for the Horde; Reghar wanted to remain open to diplomacy and preserve their treaty of non-aggression with Theramore.


After the The Battle For The Undercity, Varok reminds Thrall, who is lamenting the broken peace between the Alliance and the Horde, of his duty to lead their people.


But thrall might still be taking over as the new leader for a while. he told us in cataclysm when we had to free him from the elements that he wil start to think more about the family. so if he takes the role of the leader it wil just be for a short time.



It was revealed in the March 2012 Mists of Pandaria Press Event that Garrosh will be the final boss for the Mists of Pandaria Mists of Pandaria expansion, as both factions recognize his growing instability and lust for power.[10] This means a new Warchief will be appointed and most assume Thrall will return, but Blizzard Entertainment Zarhym has hinted that the new Warchief may not be who everyone expects.
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What, did Saurfang die this expansion? Is that why nobody's suggested the obvious yet?
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What, did Saurfang die this expansion? Is that why nobody's suggested the obvious yet?


it says he is alive in wowwiki.
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What, did Saurfang die this expansion? Is that why nobody's suggested the obvious yet?


it says he is alive in wowwiki.

He's just old, is all. And he's been out of the picture since ICC.
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Wrathion is playing the long game, obviously the Burning Legion is going to return to Azeroth. His concern is that the Horde & Alliance will fight each other until they lack the strength whether on their own or together to defend the planet. He is a pragmatist and while the ideal would be having both come together to fight the external threat would be ideal it didn't turn out that well for Medivh. So he is making a choice, if he has to back one side to wipe out the other to make sure that there is a force strong enough to save the planet he will.

We know Thrall is going to show up at the final battle, I still think he is a red herring but I don't know enough about current horde lore to make a call on who would actually step up.

Edit, Vol'jinn is getting a book, so that has to help his chances.

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Edit, Vol'jinn is getting a book, so that has to help his chances.

New sound files from the PTR say he is poisoned in an attack and becomes deathly ill; it is strongly implied that Garrosh is behind it.
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LockeColeMA wrote:
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What, did Surafang die this expansion? Is that why nobody's suggested the obvious yet?


it says he is alive in wowwiki.

He's just old, is all. And he's been out of the picture since ICC.



I really wish Surafang jr was still alive, he would of made a fine Warchief. Heck even the Alliance respects him.
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LockeColeMA wrote:
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Edit, Vol'jinn is getting a book, so that has to help his chances.

New sound files from the PTR say he is poisoned in an attack and becomes deathly ill; it is strongly implied that Garrosh is behind it.

From the leaks I have seen, that seems to be a theme. In Cataclysm, Garrosh was a butthead but he was a stickler for the principles of the Horde. Now he seems to be a lot more inclined to take the path of expedience. Traditionally, this is the first step for a character down a path that ends with betraying any person or principle that gets in their way. I suspect this is the hook they'll use to make even Horde guilds want to run the final raid to depose him.
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I suspect this is the hook they'll use to make even Horde guilds want to run the final raid to depose him.
I'm pretty sure Horde players have been calling for his blood since at least WotLK.
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I suspect this is the hook they'll use to make even Horde guilds want to run the final raid to depose him.
I'm pretty sure Horde players have been calling for his blood since at least WotLK.


One of the 1st quest in Naggard(sp) done told you he was an asshat.
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I suspect this is the hook they'll use to make even Horde guilds want to run the final raid to depose him.
I'm pretty sure Horde players have been calling for his blood since at least WotLK.


One of the 1st quest in Naggard(sp) done told you he was an asshat.

Well, I said as much in the part that got chopped. But that's not enough - Jaina Proudmoore actually burst into tears when Varian Wrynn, for the first time ever, /wasn't/ an asshat in public. The Alliance isn't looking for a tree stump and a strong man with an axe... Jerkitude has never been a disqualification for high office, in and of itself.
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I'd love to see something with Sylvanas Windrunner. I love where they took her character in Cata, and I think having her take over as Warchief could be an interesting development. A twist of fate almost. The Orcish leaders forced the presences of the Orcs into Undercity, what if she would force her way as the leader in Orgrimmar? Not many horde leaders would really be able to get in her way.
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Well, I said as much in the part that got chopped. But that's not enough - Jaina Proudmoore actually burst into tears when Varian Wrynn, for the first time ever, /wasn't/ an asshat in public. The Alliance isn't looking for a tree stump and a strong man with an axe... Jerkitude has never been a disqualification for high office, in and of itself.

Yeah, but if that's the hook they'll use to get even Horde guilds to want to kill him, it suggests they don't want to already. Smiley: tongue
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I'd love to see something with Sylvanas Windrunner. I love where they took her character in Cata, and I think having her take over as Warchief could be an interesting development. A twist of fate almost. The Orcish leaders forced the presences of the Orcs into Undercity, what if she would force her way as the leader in Orgrimmar? Not many horde leaders would really be able to get in her way.


That won't fly though. Most of the Horde view her like we would view a crazy friend with a shillaly. Sure they make look intimidating to your enemies but you never know when they will view you as the next enemy. Besides Sylvanas is treading a fine line at the moment. She keeps going the path that she is and there will be little that separates her from the Lich King. Which I expect is the point.

Whoever gets to lead the Horde will have to be liked by the people who kick Garrosh out. Possible Alliance having an opinion on it. -shrug-
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I'm gonna assume that some loner named Riddiq isn't gonna come into the picture, smackdown Garrosh in an epic fight, then claim ya keep what ya kill ... /shrug.

Anyway, it had me wondering that, at least for the players part, that anyone leading the Horde other than an orc (and presumably the main horde hub would be their hometown, if it exists, rather than Org) would just simply feel ... odd.
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And from the cold ground I command you thread to RISE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4V6hk-_30k

Well here we are a year later and looks like Bodhi got it right :D
Dose he even still play lol?

For those of you who don't know btw the new warchief is Vol'jin



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And from the cold ground I command you thread to RISE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4V6hk-_30k

Well here we are a year later and looks like Bodhi got it right :D
Dose he even still play lol?

For those of you who don't know btw the new warchief is Vol'jin





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well done good sir, well done
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Am I the only one getting the feeling Jaina's going to jump off the slippery slope come next expansion? Maybe she'll even join the Burning Legion.
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Am I the only one getting the feeling Jaina's going to jump off the slippery slope come next expansion? Maybe she'll even join the Burning Legion.


Because, y'know, Blizzard has a great track record of quiet, gradual descents into madness.
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I hope the next expansion will be Rise of the Legion. Pandas and stuff aside, this expansion lacked a familiar theme. It's been full of new (demi)gods, new conflicts and a new culture, all of it completely alien to the old Warcraft RTS games.

Could do with some familiar themes. Also, Enslave Demon needs a comeback. My Warlock hasn't been able to use it since, what, 2008?
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Yeah, MoP continues to confuse me. I feel like it makes a LOT more sense as a post-BL kind of expansion, when the treaty between the two factions that let them survive the onslaught breaks down again.

But I guess the real reason they did it is to allow the open hostilities to be the main plot, without a big bad to make it as freaking awkward as it was in Cata. Oh, hey, look... Ragnaros is coming our way. Better stop him befor-IS THAT AN ORC? KILL IT, **** EVERYTHING ELSE, KILL IT I SAY!

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Am I the only one getting the feeling Jaina's going to jump off the slippery slope come next expansion? Maybe she'll even join the Burning Legion.


but not join intentionally at first, like a slippery slope sort of descent

then after a bit she realizes she is helping sarg but is like w/e we want the same things to happen so it is ok by me...
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Am I the only one getting the feeling Jaina's going to jump off the slippery slope come next expansion? Maybe she'll even join the Burning Legion.


but not join intentionally at first, like a slippery slope sort of descent

then after a bit she realizes she is helping sarg but is like w/e we want the same things to happen so it is ok by me...
And that's when Kael'thas gets resurrected again.

Edit: After looking up some stuff, I could be wrong. Maybe she'll have blue dragon babies and live happily ever after with Kalec.

Nah.

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