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#1 Sep 30 2012 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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http://m.gamenguide.com/articles/3540/20120928/world-warcraft-mist-pandaria-release-date-sales-review-blizzard-activision.htm

Because box sales are showing at 700k for MoP compared to 3.3 million for. Cata

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#2 Sep 30 2012 at 7:30 AM Rating: Excellent
Same. I would think many opt to buy digital, it is becoming the easier way to get games. I bought CE, and wanted all the goodies, so I did get the big 'ol box. If I had just wanted the pet and mount, Digital CE would have been best option.

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#3 Sep 30 2012 at 9:54 AM Rating: Good
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In my opinion, the expectations for Mist were to low. It was being compared to farmville, pokeman, and kung fu panda. I don't think too much of the player base was excited because of the lingering disappointment of Cata. However, I feel that so far the game has exceeded expectations. I have yet to hear of anyone who doesn't like pet battles, and the farming area always has people.

The word of mouth will spread and sales will grow.

Also, of the 7 real life friends I know, only 1 bought a physical copy. The rest of us went digital.
I would guess digital sales would top 2 million once released.
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#4 Sep 30 2012 at 2:23 PM Rating: Good
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I think it is safe to say that if by Monday or Tuesday we haven't seen a press release from Blizzard announcing sales then it is safe to say things don't look good.

I don't think that will be the case though, as a lot of people are stating digital sales seem to be the route the majority of the player base is going. I still seeing it below 3.3 million, but it I would be surprised if it was less than WotLK sales @ 2.8 million.
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#5 Sep 30 2012 at 4:02 PM Rating: Good
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I went digital download this time. This is the first time I ever bought digital. I don't think I could take another session standing outside of gamestop from 11pm till midnight waiting.
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I remember when I bought the original game. European release was in the morning, so I skipped classes and went with my cousin to pick up a pre-ordered copy of the Collector's Edition. Good times. Old times.

Digital download is definitely the way to go now that high-speed (relatively speaking) internet is the norm in most of the civilized world. If I'm buying MoP, it'll definitely be digital, because I'm running out of places to save all my disks. Plus, with four expansions, it's easier - probably also faster with the new "play while you download" feature - to just download the client and run the downloader instead of installing from five or six disks.

700k seems low, though. We're looking at 2.1m digital sales just to match WotLK...
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#7 Sep 30 2012 at 4:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't forget, this time Blizzard really, REALLY pushed the digital download. There has been a link on the character-select screen to the Blizzard store since patch 5.0 came out.
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Anything at this point is guess work, but it is basically assumed that digital sales would have to have gone well beyond Blizz's wet dreams in order to beat Cata sales.
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#9 Sep 30 2012 at 5:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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MoP goes live for the invisible half of the player base tomorrow.
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Of course this is just guesswork based on my own experience and what I read/hear...but, I wonder if what seems like a lot of positive word of mouth will see sales pick up (or, people return), as opposed to Cata that seemed to drive people away.

Edited, Sep 30th 2012 8:19pm by azwing
#11 Oct 01 2012 at 5:39 AM Rating: Good
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Rhodekylle wrote:
MoP goes live for the invisible half of the player base tomorrow.


Wait, weren't you guys a year behind us leading up to Cataclysm?
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#12 Oct 01 2012 at 6:02 AM Rating: Good
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Rhodekylle wrote:
MoP goes live for the invisible half of the player base tomorrow.


Wait, weren't you guys a year behind us leading up to Cataclysm?


China, Pandas, ASAP. I'm sure it went something like that.
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Wait, weren't you guys a year behind us leading up to Cataclysm?


We were. We were stuck in a power struggle between two government ministries. That has been straightened out and the new license holder here seems to be much more interested in keeping things current.

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China, Pandas, ASAP. I'm sure it went something like that.


The catch is, it wasn't up to them. We were afraid that an Asian theme was going to set off more headaches than WotLK and the exposed bones taboo. It isn't a "pandas are sacred" thing (they aren't) as much as "Sino-centrism does not play well with others". Getting it released during one of the week long holidays is nothing short of amazing.

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I went for a digital copy, but frankly I'm very underwhelmed.

The lag (Zul'Jin) has been really bad in the new continent, so I have decided to re-roll a MNK. Cata saw me unsubscribe about 2-3 months into it. I currently have a 4 month period with no billing (I do the 6-mo thing), but at this point I think I'm just going to unsub. I hate when they bill you without realizing you were due for a payment. I don't need to be stuck with another 6 months of this.

The lack of anything really new.... A guildie hit 90 and said, "Well now what do I do?" The response came back, "Go to Org and get in the queue for LFD"

I thought - Wow... That sucks.

Most of the guild is roughly 87 or 88... There are a handful of 90s. Wow. All the content is done - time to start grinding the same instances for 2 years.
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Cata was also released in December. Holiday gifts, anyone?

Teen: "Mom, I want the WoW expansion for Christmas."
Mom: "Can I buy it at Best Buy?"
Teen: "Yes, but there's a digital version you can get which is faster-"
Mom: (waves hands to chase away the confusion) "I don't like the intertubes. You'll get the box for Christmas."

More people going digital + less reason for parents to buy the box in a non-holiday time frame = no surprise that box sales are lower.
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#16 Oct 01 2012 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
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I'll buy a digital copy once I am ready to.

I just wanted to comment that I went to my local best buy (/scoff) while killing time and they did not have a single copy of MoP lying around anywhere. There was not even a shelf space for it.

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The lack of anything really new.... A guildie hit 90 and said, "Well now what do I do?" The response came back, "Go to Org and get in the queue for LFD"


In other words, they learned nothing from the previous four level caps? This isn't new. When you race through content to gain the instant gratification of the level cap, you'll probably find that it's not that gratifying. Your guildie has already done all of the Pandaria quests? Mastered the pet battle system? Taken a monk to 90 and explored all of the role options available to them?

No? Then why did they get the expansion? Just to race to 90 and complain about content that they knew didn't exist?

Still cracks me up that after the previous 4 level cap experiences, people still race to level cap and then whine about not having anything to do.



Edited, Oct 1st 2012 10:11am by FuriousJorge
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Frankly - leveling isn't very fun.

I don't disagree with your statement that people shouldn't race through content, but then again... Do people really enjoy non-level cap content?

Do people look back and think how fun it was to kill 30 birds in Nagard, or collect broken wood in HFP, or search for stolen rations in SP, etc. It's almost never challenging. Usually it's repetitive. And much of the time is spent running/traveling between locations.

I don't know - maybe i'm just getting bored of it.
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Borsuk wrote:

I don't disagree with your statement that people shouldn't race through content, but then again... Do people really enjoy non-level cap content?


Smiley: nod

Borsuk wrote:
Do people look back and think how fun it was to kill 30 birds in Nagard,


Smiley: nod

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or collect broken wood in HFP


Smiley: nod

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or search for stolen rations in SP, etc.


Smiley: nod

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It's almost never challenging.


And that right there, is the reason I left.

There's no danger left in the world. Not that it was ever horrendously difficult. But when normal people can reach the level cap without dying, there's a check-or-balance missing somewhere. Don't mind long grinds, loved some of the story lines, fun leveling different characters, building professions, or whatever. But darn it can't you have a couple of baddies that are tough to beat? Smiley: rolleyes
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Borsuk wrote:
Frankly - leveling isn't very fun.

I don't disagree with your statement that people shouldn't race through content, but then again... Do people really enjoy non-level cap content?


I do. I've had the game since launch and just dinged 88 last night. I have friends nagging me to rush to 90 so I can chain-grind heroics with them and I'm in no hurry. I've been taking breaks to do pet battles, work on professions, etc. And once I hit 90 I'll still have plenty to do - there's a bunch of new reputations to grind, tons of pets to catch and level, as well as heroics and raids.
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Perhaps it's just that this the 4th time (I started w/ TBC), but the only difference right now seems to be that the names and icons have changed.
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I do. I've had the game since launch and just dinged 88 last night. I have friends nagging me to rush to 90 so I can chain-grind heroics with them and I'm in no hurry. I've been taking breaks to do pet battles, work on professions, etc. And once I hit 90 I'll still have plenty to do - there's a bunch of new reputations to grind, tons of pets to catch and level, as well as heroics and raids.

The only reason I see to rush to level cap is if you're concerned with progression raiding. If you're not interested in any of the general-interest new stuff (scenarios, pet battles, farming, loremasters, the rares that drop cool items) - well, then it's raiding and rep grinding, just like always. Oh, and challenge modes, but there's no reason to rush for those, since there's no benefit in early adopting.
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Borsuk wrote:
I went for a digital copy, but frankly I'm very underwhelmed.

The lag (Zul'Jin) has been really bad in the new continent, so I have decided to re-roll a MNK. Cata saw me unsubscribe about 2-3 months into it. I currently have a 4 month period with no billing (I do the 6-mo thing), but at this point I think I'm just going to unsub. I hate when they bill you without realizing you were due for a payment. I don't need to be stuck with another 6 months of this.

The lack of anything really new.... A guildie hit 90 and said, "Well now what do I do?" The response came back, "Go to Org and get in the queue for LFD"

I thought - Wow... That sucks.

Most of the guild is roughly 87 or 88... There are a handful of 90s. Wow. All the content is done - time to start grinding the same instances for 2 years.


Seriously? I hit 90 on Sat night, and Im STILL Overwhelmed by things to do. I havent even touched Pet battles, and barely dabbled into heroics. There's a TON of dailies that are not only interesting but also rewarding, e.g. raising a dragon, working on building your farm. You could try to go find the BoA weapons that are scattered around, You could try to find the Lore areas, work on crafts, scenarios(which I havent done yet) Challenge modes, Raidings not even out yet.

Most people I hear complaining there's TOO much to do. Most people atm are focused on gearing up for raiding this week, and I'm not saying all this content isnt going to last for an extremely long time, but to get to 90 and say there's nothing to do is idiotic.

Since I have hit 90 I've ran about 6 heroics and I'm liking them they aren't the Cata 2 hour long slogs, they are more like Wrath maybe a tad longer.

If you would have asked me a month ago if I was excited for MoP I would have considered not resubbing, I was VERY skeptical. I am VERY pleased with this expansion so far. Now will it last I don't know, but seeing as I don't have the time to do everything at once right now I am leaning towards It lasting. I mean once I get geared, start raiding, finish the factions, Finish all my crafting, Gold every Challenge mode, dabble in PvP, Do Pet battles and challenge modes, then I'll be bored and might unsub.

It sounds to me your more burned out on MMO style of gameplay, because every MMO is get to cap and grind to gear/finish content. Better question, I mean, What were you expecting? I mean you say "all the content done - time to start grinding for 2 years." when raids arent even unlocked, pvp season hasnt started. How can you say were already grinding the same content already when some isnt even out til this week.

Sorry for the rant but your like the child whining they are hungry and there's nothing to eat at an all you can eat buffet.

Edit in: Sorry about your lag, other then bad lag one night (last Friday) I havent had any issues, I'm on Frostmourne (Oceanic) and the only Issue I have is its over crowded and If i dont get on by 6pm and stay on it's a 1~3 hour que.


Edited, Oct 1st 2012 11:38am by BeanX
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Borsuk wrote:
I went for a digital copy, but frankly I'm very underwhelmed.

The lag (Zul'Jin) has been really bad in the new continent, so I have decided to re-roll a MNK. Cata saw me unsubscribe about 2-3 months into it. I currently have a 4 month period with no billing (I do the 6-mo thing), but at this point I think I'm just going to unsub. I hate when they bill you without realizing you were due for a payment. I don't need to be stuck with another 6 months of this.

The lack of anything really new.... A guildie hit 90 and said, "Well now what do I do?" The response came back, "Go to Org and get in the queue for LFD"

I thought - Wow... That sucks.

Most of the guild is roughly 87 or 88... There are a handful of 90s. Wow. All the content is done - time to start grinding the same instances for 2 years.


I must say, my experience is the polar opposite of this. I've barely even done any dungeons, the 1st 2 I did 2-3 times each but that was about it. I just finally made it to 90 yesterday and found myself so overwhelmed with things to do I'm trying to prioritize what to do first. There are like 8 factions to grind up, which you can't do in dungeons now, and most of them have mounts/pets/both plus the gear and profession patterns.

Cooking itself looks like nearly a full time job to sort out with some 5-6 sub-factions there. And the pet battles look like they could soak up many hours as well. Scenarios seem like a quick 50g or so +VP for a few minute romp, did a few of those.

I guess if you want to just sit in town and queue, that's fine. I figure I will be spending a ton of time in dungeons and raids throughout 5.x so I'm really in no rush to start that rut just yet. But from what I've seen so far, MoP already has more to do at opening than Cata did through the entire expansion.
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There is an absolute metric ton of stuff to do and I can't say I am happier than I am now.



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BeanX wrote:
but to get to 90 and say there's nothing to do is idiotic.


Note that Borsuk didn't claim that there was nothing to do (since he's not level 90 yet). He was paraphrasing a guild member. Also...

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How can you say were already grinding the same content already when some isnt even out til this week.


Again, he wasn't. He was referring to the extremely slow pace with which Blizzard released new content in Cataclysm and predicting a repeat of the misery that was grinding two to three heroics for a year at a time.

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Sorry for the rant but your like the child whining they are hungry and there's nothing to eat at an all you can eat buffet.


Different strokes for different folks. Some people enjoy cooking, pet battles, farming and grinding dailies for gold and reputation. Some people don't. Some people used to enjoy it, but after eight years stuff loses its appeal. Which brings us to my final quote from your post.

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It sounds to me your more burned out on MMO style of gameplay


Sounds to me like he's burned out on WoW, which is nothing to be ashamed of. Eight years is a long time and the game does get repetitive in the long run, no matter how much sparkly dust Blizzard throws at it. That doesn't mean he's burned out on MMOs in general, though. It just means he's ready to move on to another game.

And the guy from Borsuk's guild is right, but that's a discussion for another time and another thread.
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