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Also, VERY glad to see they have a Pandaren pugilist NPC named Thelonius.

Not the zones in Pandaria, the zones for new Pandaren characters. The island floating on the back of the giant turtle, The Wandering Isle. I started a new Pandaren monk this morning and got to level 6 and I had only explored maybe 1/3 of the island. People were saying it was taking 3 hours to get to level 12 and the quest to be able to choose your faction.

I don't remember Gilneas or Kezan taking that long.

Gilneas and Kezan were fun the first couple of times, but after that it sort of dragged on for a bit too long. It felt slightly claustrophobic, being locked into a zone until a certain point in the quest progression. Same thing with the Death Knight starting area.

Being locked into a zone for three hours sounds... not fun. Maybe the first couple of times, but sometimes you just want to get to another zone right off the bat. For a different leveling experience, y'know. Especially if you're the type of player who levels a lot of characters.

The Draenei and Blood Elves could leave their starting area at level 1 if they wanted, so I don't know what's up with limiting freedom post-TBC. I prefer leveling up in the Human and Tauren starting areas because they're bright and "warm" (colors). That doesn't appear to be a problem in the Pandaren starting area, but I imagine I'd get tired of doing a three-hour grind in the same zone before being let out into the World of Warcraft.

It's starting to remind me a lot of SWTOR, and not in a good way. The locked starting areas (planets) are the main reason I can't stand leveling more characters in that game.

glad to be out of the starting zone. Has a nice story, but yea..took a few hours to get out.
I didn't like not being able to join my guild until i was out, nor being able to wear my BoAs until I was out.

Hm. Hope you will be ok/was ok when you did/do Hellscream's battle quest. It had me with what seemed like 50 other pandas.

You play WoW on a cylon?! You *******, even the toasters have feelings too!

I'd rather play WoW on Six.

...I'll be in my bunk.

I know what you mean, Mazra. That scene made me hungry, too.

That red dress though...

Were you listening to me, BDJ, or were you looking at the woman in the red dress? Look again...

Spoiler

Also, we're talking about Battlestar Galactica. In the distant future (or past, I still haven't figured that one out), mankind created artificial intelligence and then waged war against it when it became too smart. The humans won, I think, and the robots (Cylons) were chased into deep space.

Battlestar Galactica takes place during the return of the Cylons. They're pretty pissed and they launch an all-out attack on the human colonies, killing everyone except a few thousand aboard various spaceships, including the decommissioned Battlestar Galactica spacecraft carrier. Anyway, the Cylons have developed the ability to create cyborgs - human/robot clones that act as sleepers. The idea is that you, the audience, doesn't know who is human and who is a Cylon wearing flesh. The cyborg models have numbers and there are eight models, implying that eight humans aboard the surviving spaceships are in fact Cylon agents (plus five more it is revealed later on). The lady you see above is model number Six. Each model has several copies, so by the time you're a couple of seasons into the show, you have no idea what's going on and who's who, unless you watch every episode. I think that's the point, by the way.

Anyway, in the pilot episode, Caprica-Six, one of the Six model cyborgs (woman in red dress), travels to one of the human colonies and observes the population. She comes across a mother out on a stroll with her baby. As the mother looks away, Six reaches into the baby carriage and kills the baby by snapping its neck. Later on the entire planet is bombed to hell, so it doesn't really matter, but still... kind of a brutal scene, especially when Six walks away while the mother screams in the background.

Can't find the clip anywhere or I'd show you.

Edited, Sep 27th 2012 10:57pm by Mazra

It's what I do.

SpoilerIt's the past. At the very end of the series, you see the angel-Baltar and angel-Six on present-day Earth (the new Earth, not the one from the Thirteenth Tribe) debating about how it's happening again after they see a news story about how they found "mitochondrial Eve's remains," who is Hera, the first Cylon/human hybrid.

Anyway BDJ, it's a great series. It's on Netflix instant streaming in the US if you have that. Careful though, it will literally suck you in. I've watched it all the way through like three times now.

Also Maz, Spoiler40 years or so before the BSG series we're talking about was the first Cylon war; the humans didn't really win, they basically reached an armistice agreement with the Cylons and the Cylons went off on their own (the humans of the Twelve Colonies gave them a section of space, hence the armistice line that is in the episode with Bulldog, the guy that W. Adama shot down when he was found across the line).

Prior to that, there isn't much known about the real Earth (the first Earth found in the series, the one that was nuked). We know that the Final Five Cylons lived there, but not much else. Probably something similar to the armistice, since they were considered the "Thirteenth Tribe."

I'm sad that no one picked up on my Firefly reference.

Edited, Sep 28th 2012 12:12am by Theophany

The BG reboot fell victim to the same problem that Chris Carter had with the X-Files. You can go for a few seasons dishing out cool stuff every week and everyone loves it, and the media/blogosphere raves about the overarching themes, plot twists, and what is and isn't a red herring. But eventually the weird $%!} hits a critical mass and people start to realize that there never was a connection between anything and that you were just making it up as you went along. And by then it's too late to even retcon everything and the final season is completely incoherent.

Same with Buffy, to a lesser degree. Jury is still out on the new Doctor Who - but that show has a "Get out of Jail Free" card, since when you write yourself into a corner, you can just have another regeneration...