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#1 May 30 2012 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Hello All,
I have been playing World of Warcraft very often for a while now and I hate to say it but the time I spend playing is really starting to effect my life. I am a little worried that I may need to step back and take a break from WoW for a while. Have any of you had trouble balancing your time like this and have any advice?

I just wanted to see what you guys have to say on the subject and if you think it effects your life in any way, either with family life or in the office.

Thanks for any feedback/advice!
- Mike
#2 May 30 2012 at 9:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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I had some trouble balancing it in the beginning, but then I finally got my act together, kicked the girlfriend out and started a tab at the local bar.

Been working just fine ever since.
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Alas! We have had enough students try to avoid the forum policy on academic surveys that I can't bring myself to set aside the thought: "blast, another survey chimp that thinks he is being clever". On the off chance that you are asking a serious question, why don't you hang around and chat for a while. If you just happen to be planning on using this question to kick off your research -- and I've grown increasingly twitchy about people who just want feedback -- why don't you take a minute to read the policy and take the appropriate steps.
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I had some trouble balancing it in the beginning, but then I finally got my act together, kicked the girlfriend out and started a tab at the local bar.
Neural connection via BCI and intravenous alcohol drip, overachiever.
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I just wanted to see what you guys have to say on the subject and if you think it effects your life in any way, either with family life or in the office.


Pin this up at the office to remind you of your priorities:

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#6 May 30 2012 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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Wait a minute... I can't do your job!

What're you implying, Protein?
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Wait a minute... I can't do your job!

What're you implying, Protein?


Huh? What was that? Smiley: confused

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#8 May 30 2012 at 10:11 AM Rating: Good
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I'm a science teacher, foo'!

Same company, different floor. I'm in the PR department, you're in accounting or something.
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BloodElf1 wrote:

Thanks for any feedback/advice!
- Mike
Dear Mike, sometimes you need to take a break from Warcraft AH to play around with other games, like Wallstreet/New-York casino. I will be selling short Facebook stock in the next couples of days racking up major $$$ on the back of noobs.

This is my advice: Watch for sucker's rally and go short sale them. After collecting your earnings, upgrade your home and computer, buy your wife a new car and go back to Wow.
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#10 May 30 2012 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
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Haha, I like RAWDEAL's idea! Although I would have to start really learning some economics, is there a "Short Sales for Dummies" book out there?
#11 May 30 2012 at 12:36 PM Rating: Excellent
Sometimes you just need to learn how to prioritize. A few months back I was raiding three nights a week, with three different teams on three different characters. I was hesitant to quit one of the teams, because I enjoyed raiding on each character. But I had significantly less time to go play with my RL friends. Now, I barely play WoW at all, I'm involved in community theater and I go out to karaoke once or twice a week with friends. I'm a lot happier. If you have good friends, they'll understand if you occasionally skip out of hanging out with them to play a video game, but honestly, why the **** would you want to play a video game over hanging out with your friends in person?
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You haven't lived "Playing too much" until you've spent 4 years getting ~3-4 hours of sleep a night, gain over 80lbs and spend money 3-4 times a week ordering pizza just so they'll deliver you the two 2-liter bottles of Dr Pepper you need a day just to keep from falling asleep on the drive to work...all so you can raid six nights a week.
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Some of us call that "Parenthood."
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#14 May 30 2012 at 12:48 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I never went that crazy, but that was because I was a student so I couldn't afford to. Plus, I really like my sleep.
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Some of us call that "Parenthood."
Yeah, but the difference is that if you tell a random stranger about how your kid's doing all that to you, they sympathize. With the gaming, they look at you like you're insane. Because you are.
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#16magdah, Posted: Jun 04 2012 at 7:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hi Mike,
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I'm not addicted. I can quit whenever I want to!

I just don't want to.


Edit: Quite != quit. Shame on me for posting so early.

Edited, Jun 4th 2012 11:13am by Criminy
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An astonishing coincidence! A person quits WOW five years ago and then just happens to stumble across a post in a forum that they don't post in (and which is about a game they quit five years ago) that leads into an opening to link to an e-book!

/facepalm
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#19 Jun 04 2012 at 10:38 AM Rating: Good
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Mark Twain ... kind of wrote:
Quitting is easy. I've done it hundreds of times.
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An astonishing coincidence! A person quits WOW five years ago and then just happens to stumble across a post in a forum that they don't post in (and which is about a game they quit five years ago) that leads into an opening to link to an e-book!

/facepalm
Probably worth having the IPs checked to see if we have a dirty, dirty sock here.
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#21 Jun 05 2012 at 3:00 AM Rating: Default
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The One and Only Poldaran wrote:
Rhodekylle wrote:
An astonishing coincidence! A person quits WOW five years ago and then just happens to stumble across a post in a forum that they don't post in (and which is about a game they quit five years ago) that leads into an opening to link to an e-book!

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Probably worth having the IPs checked to see if we have a dirty, dirty sock here.


I'm not quite sure what all the fuss is about guys. Meant no harm really.
I figured forums are a place where people can share about their own experiences and interact with others, being true to the topic of the OP about 'WoW and real life' I can't see what's so terrible about posting my own story about this.
The reason why I linked to an online viewable pdf is because the story is too long for just a forum post.

Sorry if I offended anyone, because it was surely not my intention!
#22 Jun 05 2012 at 3:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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Sorry if I offended anyone, because it was surely not my intention!
As a general rule, we here tend to dislike it when people pop in and flyby post what is generally an advertisement for their works*. More specifically, some of us see patterns - such as you popping in to mention your PDF around the same time someone just happens to have created a thread about the topic - as indications that instead of a coincidence, someone is making two accounts in an attempt to better advertise their work. Much like those guys who sold health tonics in old timey fairs usually had plants in the audience to better showcase their wares with often fraudulent claims. Any time someone "coincidentally" does something, we find ourselves jaded to the possibility that it's an actual coincidence.

And it's often not.

*Edited to add: We do tend to favor some more than others. A short hilarious video, a fan fiction or perhaps a useful tool you've made are much more likely to get favorable results than "my tale of how I was addicted to a game five years ago and quit".

Edited, Jun 5th 2012 3:23am by Poldaran
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#23 Jun 06 2012 at 4:16 AM Rating: Good
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The eBook seems to be free to read, so meh. As long as they're not advertising crap that costs money, I'll give them 9.5 for the trouble they went through setting this up. Assuming, of course, it is advertising and not someone who just wanted to share.

Sharing is caring, people.
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I have a profound mistrust of missionaries and recovery programs with missionary overtones. I've sent too many students to study in the US, only to see them recruited into one of the less mainstream churches and then used as a tool to recruit their fellow students. In time, words like "tithe" start to appear, together with appeals to send missionaries to horrible, third world places like wealthy suburbs of Shanghai. I support the freedom of religious choice, but find some tactics to be unconscionable. To use an extreme example, I disagree with the confrontational strategy used by a particular Baptist church. Attempting to prey on the emotionally vulnerable is not on the good side of my list.

Much like Youtube, Scribd is blocked here. I can't see first hand if this is one of those "save an addict" ploys, but it strikes that kind of chord with me. The plea for advice, the coincidental appearance of a survivor. Ah well, given where I've been living and working, I'm probably just too suspicious of coincidences. Here, they are usually too well choreographed.
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In response to the OP: Is it affecting your life? If it's affecting your job, relationships, family, friends, etc. then you're playing too much.

If you're playing too much and think you should cut back on your playing time but can't, then you have a REAL PROBLEM.

A) not affecting real life (see above) = probably not a problem.
B) affecting real life, so you cut back on your playing time until the problems are solved = it's cool
C) affecting real life and you want to cut back and/or try to cut back and you can't do it = REAL PROBLEM! QUIT NOW!

Like any other addictive thing, if it's hurting your life and you can't be moderate in your usage, you have to just totally quit and never do it again.

(That's why I don't drink anymore.)
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I have a profound mistrust of missionaries and recovery programs with missionary overtones..


One should be tolerant of everything, except intolerance. I dislike preaching as much as the next guy, but unless we hear them out, how do we know they're preaching in the first place? Summarily dismissing them on a generalizing suspicion is just prejudice. Now, if it turns out the eBook in mention is 100 pages worth of "the Lord saved me from my MMO addiction," I'll be the first to light a torch, but until then... meh.
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I dislike preaching as much as the next guy, but unless we hear them out, how do we know they're preaching in the first place?

Much like Youtube, Scribd is blocked here. I can't see first hand if this is one of those "save an addict" ploys, but it strikes that kind of chord with me. The plea for advice, the coincidental appearance of a survivor.


Smiley: laughKnowing you to be a man who wouldn't be here just to quibble for a +1, thank you for volunteering to check that, Maz!

Note that I've already mentioned the level of coincidence, which was enough for Pol to talk of sock checks. Circumstantial evidence is not optimal, neither is it the same as a complete lack of basis for suspicions. A man with a brick in his hand, standing next to a jewelry store window at 0200 might have hundreds of good reasons that don't involve smash and grab. The fact that there could be other explanations makes the circumstances no less suspicious.

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The eBook is 4 pages long and is about him quitting because he met a girl and lost her to another man who wasn't a gamer and thus a superior being. That's what I got out of skimming it, at least. I didn't pick up any "repent, ye sinners!" vibes, although he does tend to lean towards the emotional at times, mentioning things like raindrops on an umbrella as he realizes how beautiful the outside is (ignoring the giant fireball in the sky, obviously).

Seems like one of those "I just kicked an addiction and here's why" self-reflective deals. There doesn't seem to be any attempts at converting going on, although I was never good at analyzing texts. Grammar is a bit meh, but judging by his name, I'm guessing he's not English.

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A man with a brick in his hand, standing next to a jewelry store window at 0200 might have hundreds of good reasons that don't involve smash and grab. The fact that there could be other explanations makes the circumstances no less suspicious.

Counsel, your witness.


Innocent until proven guilty, your honor!

Also, Chewbacca lives on Endor. He's a Wookiee from Kashyyyk. Think about it. Just think about it.

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Smiley: nod See! Base your arguments in facts, clearly cited. Shun moral platitudes (not to be confused with platypuses) that, were they strictly applied, would leave you obligated to defend RAW next time he gets himself dogpiled.

I remain suspicious of the coincidence, but it is nice to know that we're probably safe from reformers for a while and need only survive the usual surveys and youtube drive-bys. Well done, Watson.

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I did think about it and realized, you're playing a game based on a movie that came out before you were born. I also just saw that Ray Bradbury died and I wonder if you even really realize who Ray Bradbury was. That's rather a sad thought. I'm going to take a break, we can play later.
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Moral platypuses should be shunned as well.
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#31 Jun 06 2012 at 12:30 PM Rating: Good
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The eBook is 4 pages long and is about him quitting because he met a girl and lost her to another man who wasn't a gamer and thus a superior being. That's what I got out of skimming it, at least. I didn't pick up any "repent, ye sinners!" vibes, although he does tend to lean towards the emotional at times, mentioning things like raindrops on an umbrella as he realizes how beautiful the outside is (ignoring the giant fireball in the sky, obviously).


Smiley: facepalm No, I think I found the real reason right here, that he lost the girl. That's just terribly cheesy.
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I brought my girl to WoW. Now she plays WoW while I'm "on a break."

Who's awesome?

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Your girl is.

Smiley: tongue
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I can't argue with that. Smiley: rolleyes

Of course, she's going to stalk you worse once she reads that... Smiley: lol
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Why, hello there, Mrs Protein. How you doin'? Smiley: sly
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#36 Jun 06 2012 at 1:48 PM Rating: Good
I've talked to her on battle.net, she seems pretty cool. Smiley: smile
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which was enough for Pol to talk of sock checks
To be fair, doesn't take much to get me suspicious enough to suggest checking for sockpuppets.
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Ah well, given where I've been living and working, I'm probably just too suspicious of coincidences. Here, they are usually too well choreographed.


I can sympathize. Sometimes coincidences are just that. I wish, however, that that would turn out to be the case more often.

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Smiley: sly I've long suspected you of being the kind of guy who would probably be into immoral platypuses.

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The eBook is 4 pages long and is about him quitting because he met a girl and lost her to another man who wasn't a gamer and thus a superior being. That's what I got out of skimming it, at least. I didn't pick up any "repent, ye sinners!" vibes, although he does tend to lean towards the emotional at times, mentioning things like raindrops on an umbrella as he realizes how beautiful the outside is (ignoring the giant fireball in the sky, obviously).

Seems like one of those "I just kicked an addiction and here's why" self-reflective deals. There doesn't seem to be any attempts at converting going on, although I was never good at analyzing texts. Grammar is a bit meh, but judging by his name, I'm guessing he's not English.

[quote=Rhodekylle]A man with a brick in his hand, standing next to a jewelry store window at 0200 might have hundreds of good reasons that don't involve smash and grab. The fact that there could be other explanations makes the circumstances no less suspicious.

Counsel, your witness.


Sorry to keep coming back guys, hope you're not too bothered ;)

Anyway, just like to clear up a few things.

It's true, I'm not a native speaker of English, I'm from Norway.
As for the reason for writing the little ebook in the first place. I've known life both as a full time WoW gamer and also as a total non-gamer and thought maybe that having the experience of seeing things from these two different perspectives could be useful for some young gamers who might be less experienced, and so I wanted to share this experience of mine and put together this little ebook. I realize that the ebook might not have any relevance to most of you at all, however, for some people who might be struggling with how to balance playing and RL like the OP seems to be, it could be useful to see the game and the gaming experience from another perspective as well so that he or she can make the best and most informed choice, whatever that might be.
When I was younger and was having the same kind of problems like the OP there were no one around to give me advice or listen to my problems and differently from the OP I didn't have the wit or confidence to share my worries on the forums.
That's why I wanted to share my story. To reach out to those who are like I used to be.

Just because I don't play anymore doesn't mean I hate games, hate WoW or hate gamers...after all if I did, why would I go through the trouble of putting together and ebook and posting it on a forum for gamers? I don't care if you're an engineer, gangster or gamer, those are just labels. I care about people as fellow human beings. I realize it might sound cheezy and as others have mentioned 'emotional' but I don't label those as negative things. Seeing as it is a free ebook, I get no other benefits than perhaps the biggest one, namely knowing that I might be able to give some few people in need any advice or support I can offer, just like I would have wished for myself back then.
Sure it's no big thing and writing the little ebook doesn't change the world, it might not even be read by a single person who could really benefit from it either, but as a very true and beautiful saying by mother Theresa goes:

'We can do no great things, only small things with great love'

Anyway, sorry to keep rambling on and for butting into your forum guys. Hope I cleared up in any misunderstandings and wish you all a great experience in whatever you choose to do!
If anyone wanna keep in touch, my email is in the ebook :-)

Magnus
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Smiley: sly I've long suspected you of being the kind of guy who would probably be into immoral platypuses.
Oh you know. Venomous spurs are sooooo hot.
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