Please read if you lack 10k DPS - The good versionFollow

I decided to take the above advice and write my own guide to getting that 10k dps...




~ 1. Gem/enchant/reforge your gear (if you can't afford the higher end gems, get lower end gems temporarily to get something in there - EJ, many other forum threads, and guildmates can help you here).

~ 2. Learn the most recommended spec and rotation for your class and spec (EJ, many other forum threads, and guildmates can help you here. Additionally - Noxxic is also another site that can help)

~ 3. Don't be stupid. Stop standing in that crap on the ground causing you to die. You may be standing in stuff you can't see clearly, but are obviously taking damage. The addon GTFO is your friend.

~ 4. Go pick up easy solo-obtainable upgrades that are just waiting for you to walk up to the NPCs and take them (Thrall's Cape, nice pieces of gear the first day of the Molton Front dailies, etc).

~ 5. DPS while important is secondary to group survival. If you lose dps to do some CC or other utility role that is perfectly right and proper.

~ 6. Don't expect to get healed. If you do it's a bonus, but the healer is there to keep the tank up and as many others as possible. If you take significant damage then you're probably doing something wrong.

~ 7. L2Play

~ 8. ???

~ 9. Profit!



Feel free to correct or add more! =D

ETA - All additions =)

Edited, Dec 21st 2011 3:18pm by xNocturnalSunx

7). Go pick up easy solo-obtainable upgrades that are just waiting for you to walk up to the NPCs and take them. Thrall's Cape. A 365 Ring from First day of MF, etc.

Not expecting everyone to grind out for 3 months doing MF, but the very first day gives everyone a Ring, and Strength Plate-Wearers get Boots, Necklace and a Ring. Even Plate DPS; a reforged I-365 tank item is way better than that 318-333 junk you were wearing.

Edited, Dec 21st 2011 11:03am by Lyrailis

I found Noxxic very simple for advice on rotations, stat priorities etc. I've never seen it mentioned here which either means I made a decent find or its all horribly wrong.

Anyways it helped me

I would add to the new guide :-

8. DPS while important is secondary to group survival. If you lose dps to do some CC or other utility role that is perfectly right and proper.
9. Don't expect to get healed. If you do its a bonus. But the healer is there to keep the tank up and as many others as possible. If you take significant damage then you're probably doing something wrong.

Don't see any difference to the other thread.







I keed, I keed. Well done.


Contains the right amount of information to not overwhelm but help a long way in improving the readers play.

Useful info, thanks. Question, though, from a guy who is trying to play without constantly looking up spoiler threads/sites (I know - RTFM - but that's what I told other folks.

What is "MF" ?

Molten Front.

It's a solo questline that you can start once you get to the level cap. I won't spoil it or anything, but there's some decent rewards at various stages. The gear is weaker than what you can acquire in dungeons/raids/etc, but still it's a nice place to start. As was mentioned you can unlock the first of the rewards the first day with a bit over an hour of work.

You got that backwards dude, it gives everyone a necklace. I don't know anything about a ring.

Edited, Dec 21st 2011 1:10pm by PigtailsOfDoom

Read the post again little one, we're talking about the rewards you get on the first day.

First day unlocks

STR Necklace
AGI Ring
Caster Necklace
Plate Tank Boots


All the other vendors require 125 Marks to unlock. Obviously not something you have access to on the first day.



Edited, Dec 21st 2011 4:15pm by xinaskin

Except your "STR Ring" is a necklace

and unless I have it seriously wrong you have to get both the druids and the wardens onside before you get new vendors. That is more than 125 marks

Edited, Dec 21st 2011 3:59pm by Cobra101

The abbreviated version:

Equip armor and weapons, hit stuff and don't stand in fire.

Follow those simple rules and I guarantee that you'll almost always not suck 100% of the time.

I think.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 12:24am by Mazra

If you cannot do over 10k dps I guarantee it has 10x more to do with your rotation than your gear.

I have played almost every class at 85 so far and for most of them 10k dps was feasible before they ever hit a heroic.

I don't understand why people get so upset when characters show up for random dungeons in pvp gear. The only role that cannot function in pvp gear in heroics is the tank and ferals can pull that off. I have grouped with healers who kept the group alive every fight in full pvp and dps that do over 20k in full pvp. Even with the loss of a secondary stat to resil the new crafted pvp gear is still going to outperform older drops from heroics and you can get hit capped for heroics by just adding in a hit trinket.

I have had some failures who were in a full set of pvp gear but I don't blame the fail on their pvp gear.

Now raiding is another issue. I don't like to see characters in PvP gear in my raids. While there are times in heroics where that dps doing 1% more dps or a healer getting off 1 more heal would have prevented a wipe it's not a big a deal to me as wiping a 5-10 minute raid fight when the boss has under 1% left.

I'll admit I have not played a priest, shaman, or warlock at 85. I have played everything else and with a few exceptions all of the chars I played were doing between 8-12k dps when they first hit a normal heroic.

The original thread was about doing less than 10k dps in HoT heroics. If you have the gear to do a HoT heroic and you can't do 10k dps it's not your gear. Any dps spec with 350+ilvl gear is capable of doing 10k dps.


And I still don't understand why people get butthurt about chars in pvp gear. My DK for example is 390+ in his pvp gear. I can show up wearing it and a hit trinket and do 25k dps for the group or I could put on all of his ilvl 365 pve gear and do 20k. Which would you prefer. Am I really being a "richard" by showing up in gear that allows me to do my role better than what I could have if I showed up in the approved gear. Wearing my pvp gear allows me to do my job better while collecting upgrades for his pve set.

I know it's kinda frustrating that as a tank you can't fake your ilvl and get away with it like heals and dps. But you get insta queues, and free mounts, pets, and potions.

Edited, Dec 22nd 2011 11:31am by xinaskin