The Usage of AddOnsFollow

Unfunny parody thread?

Fail troll is fail.

Another sub-d added to the list most likely.

Mental, the bad news is that they probably aren't trolls. An instructor at University of Denver has apparently decided to have us help his students learn to write by flooding the forum with surveys, stealth surveys ("no, really, this isn't a survey, just talk about this point") and now their reports.

I'm really hoping the admins will learn from this experience and disapprove all future class assignments of this magnitude. It is bad enough to get the regular rounds of surveys, but to be the target of an assignment for an entire class of writing students is over the top and holds little potential for the 'research' to be anything other than an annoyance.



Here's one for you: sod off and die. If you haven't noticed, we're deluged with half-witted students from University of Denver doing craptastic pseudo-science. Save money, skip to the point and learn to ask "would you like fries with that"?

With the quality of research (conducting, recording, and reporting), I'd have gone with high school at best.

What is the class on? Looking over what we've got so far there are people presenting the conclusion without any data, cherry-picking one response and implying it to be indicative of the whole, the one guy who gave his numbers puts his opinions right alongside the data turning everything into a confusing mess. These are the kinds of things I would expect to see from the start of a class before the teacher shows them how to do it properly, but unless it's a summer schedule the timeline suggests these are final projects. If that's the case then I must conclude that either the people posting them here don't care or the teacher has done a poor job teaching. Or both.

I never thought I'd become jealous of the time I spent grading Physics for non-majors (aka Physics for Poets). While I couldn't yell at the students I could at least make comments that I knew half of them would read and 25% of them would try to fix.

in other words, IM SORRY

I use add-ons, I keep em in my underwear drawer.....oh wait, you mean WoW add-ons!

I'll bite:

As primarily a healer now-a-days, I couldn't heal near as good as I can now without a heal add-on; currently I prefer healbot, but have used others. I couldn't heal without one to be honest. I'd rather play whack-a-mole and be able to see everything else than try to use what Blizzard has given us.

I use DBM cos, Hell, I don't know, everyone else uses it I think? And while healing, it's nice to hear something to tell me to move from the blue fire. I'm kind of brain dead like that.

Bagon is the single greatest addon of all time. Cos WoW's bag system sucks. Without it, I'm simply lost. After 4.1 dropped and bagon broke for the first time in years, I couldn't play. Just wasn't the same. It's my WoW heroin. I'm an addict!

Other than that, I use Healbot for my aggro meter and for DPS toons; to simply click for tank assist, misdriection, etc., etc. It comes in pretty handy.

If only 90% of players use add-ons, then there's 10% of players that are, I don't know, crazy for a lack of better words.

This probably doesn't help, but eh, bored and it's 1am. Not getting my bagon fix!

Edited, Jun 1st 2011 1:46am by Seculartwo

You don't say you're sorry by justifying your actions.

Well it is a state school. =x That's not me being elitist either, because I go to a state school as well. But I've encountered quite a few people who seem borderline brain dead. And UO requires a 3.0 high school GPA. Or at least it did when I applied 9 years ago.

One of my friends was in the Ag program here. She said that they had cows with holes in the side of em.

Though the cascade of abuse is fun and all that, a nuance jumped out at me here.

When you say "no official support", if what you mean is that third-party addons are not productized by Blizzard, and Blizzard takes zero responsibility for maintaining compatibility as they update the core game, that much is true. However, for the class of true addons - DBM, Bartender, Auctioneer - Blizzard provides a publicly published interface (LUA). And further, Blizzard explicitly states that any and all addons that use LUA are allowed. And the interface itself is evolved and changed - by Blizzard - over time.

So in a very real sense, Blizzard does provide official support for well-behaved addons. We aren't talking about shims and I-Win buttons, as those are not only bannable ToS violations, Blizzard spends great effort to hunt down and destroy non-LUA code that tries to interface with the game.

It's brilliant, IMO. Basically, not only did they outsource their UI design to unpaid labor, in addition because addon distribution is decentralized and every user chooses their own, both market forces and Darwinian forces apply fully to competition between developers. And Blizzard gets to cherry-pick among the survivors for integration into the base UI at a later date.

Hey, Purdue called, they said hi.

Neato according to this source UNL, which is about an hour drive from here, is ranked #9 for agricultural studies. I can tell ya right now a lot of "special" students that graduated with me went there. I find UNO to be a much better school overall, not to mention they have a solid medical department.

Why? So you can somehow deal out some sort of online justice? I'm sorry but you'll have to postpone your little vendetta while I dance naked.

I'm summarizing your results as most people use addons, you're more likely to use addons the longer you've been playing and some people really don't see the point or are against them for various reasons. As someone who has been playing the game and reading forums for quite some time this is not news to me. Asking for an opinion on this is similar to asking my opinion on the sky being blue most of the time. It's not controversial and your results aren't that surprising. So my opinion on your findings can basically be summed up as 'Meh'.

Now for the bolded part, I have 6 level 85s. Just having a max level toon does not give much information about your involvement with the game. It's very easy to level, that doesn't mean you have a deep interest in the game. My first character to level 60 I was enjoying the game but I didn't really have any goals. I didn't use addons (omg scary out of game things, seems like cheating to me) and I didn't read forums, I was playing for the simple experience of playing with no real desire to make the most of my character. Without knowing a persons play style it is difficult to discern if they are genuinely against addons or if they are simply not doing activities which addons provide an advantage in. Yes it is possible to raid without addons, but the right addons will make you more efficient by giving you easier access to information and abilities. If you mainly play on your own or in 5-mans then addons will not provide any noticeable benefit. How much of the game you have/want to experience is probably another factor in addon use apart from time played.


This is a community, if your instructor was any good at their job they should have given you some paper on ethics of online research before sending you out here to annoy people and receive negative responses. I'm afraid I can't think of the specific researcher I have in mind off the top of my head, but he was looking at Usenet forums and basically found out that people don't like researchers crashing on their party. If you'd spent some time lurking on the forum before posting then you may have been able to make a better first impression. Would you walk up to a group of strangers in a pub and say "Hey, I did a study on alcohol consumption and found x result, what do you guys think"? If not, why do you think it's acceptable to do simply because you're online?

Bolded part again, people are entitled to post whatever they want in response to whoever they want. If it is innapropriate it will be dealt with by a) the admins or b) the community rating them down. Asking people to GTFO because they are not talking about what you want to hear about is not going to help your situation. You seem awfully defensive and also seem to think that people here should be moderating their behaviour to fit in with your needs. A nicer way to ask that would be something like "I understand you are annoyed with the influx of research related posts, but I'd appreciate it if people discussed the addon topic", you might not get any better response but at least you would seem less antagonistic.



Sorry, I was busy thinking that their innards would fall out. It's too early for me to be thinking properly.

It was a WoW-themed class? I had assumed that it was just some sort of class for statistics or something. It's been a long time since I've been around a school though so I really don't know what is available anymore.


Add-ons...
I don't use very many partly because I don't want to be one of those people who are suddenly useless when a patch renders their add-ons unusable for a time. I had played quite a while before using any add-on and that was only because I was starting to do stuff with other people. Currently I use DBM, Recount and the WoWhead Client thingie. I also keep Healbot up to date on my computer but I don't use it much mainly because I'm not a great healer even with it (but even worse without it). I used to use Omen but with the built-in threatmeter we have now, I found myself looking at it less and less.

It doesn't surprise me, although I am curious what department the WoW class was in. Last term I took an Intro to Video Game studies class, it was in the English department under media studies.

My guess would be the English department on this one.

This is such an asinine post that I'm shocked that I'm even responding to it with anything more than a "lol you're stupid".

You're making a gross oversimplification about an educational institution with a student body of over 11,000.

I won't even bother to acknowledge that your own English is barely high school level (oh wait, lol).

Ooooh, and warn me so I can video tape for later!

100% of 0 is still 0.

Plus we all have boobs! Some are just bigger than others.

You're not interested in a 6'0" tall 171 pound man? Pfft, you're a huge liar; everyone is interested in me.