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Since Hero Class seems to have little meaning, being balanced against the other classes unless they really are going to be more powerful, I don't see why they aren't keeping us at level 70 and having all classes do a quest to become a hero class. Then once a hero class have us level to 10 as that hero class, so were a 70 Paladin/10 Death Knight or whatever.

Since they already have to do 10 more talent points into every single tree, why not scrap leveling to 80, level hero classes instead and have separate hero class trees. It would be the same amount of work and balance and wouldn't change your class fundamentally. One could still use their old spells they would just have new hero class abilities gathered through 10 Hero points. Could even make it specific so if your a feral and become a Druid of the Claw you can only spend hero talent point in the Druid of the Claw tree, not in the Druid of the Moon or Druid of Life trees. Quests let you change your hero class from Druid of the Claw to Druid of the Moon etc.

with this, everyone gets to be a hero class, and still has to level, the hero class, still gets 10 more talent points, hero talents, and bliz doesn't have more work, less work actually. People won't eventually abandon their characters as all of the hero classes come out and will get to maintain and develop their main namesake.

Death Knight is rolled into the Retribution tree as its Hero Class and once you reach level 10 on your hero class you can embark on a quest that lets you create any class beginning at level 60. NOW they don't have to rebalance and change the low level content. Even less work for them.

Isn't it awesome? This new expansion I mean!!!

I think that it is important for Blizzard to expand the game so that people don't get bored as quickly as they did with instances such as Molten Core, Blackwing Lair, and Naxx.

HOWEVER!!!!!!!!

I do not feel that it is necessary to raise the level cap as quickly as they are planning on. Also I don't think that it is a good idea to add a new profession such as inscription, to me it gives the game WAY to much of a Diablo feeling, and personally feel that it will ruin PVP for some classes.

I do however like the addition of the Death Knight, and think that it's great that you won't just be able to create one without "unlocking" it first. I don't necessarily agree with it being "pre-leveled" because I feel that takes advantage of game play, and you'll more than likely see a bunch of people running around not knowing what to do, where if you play the character from level 1 you have a greater feel for the character and are more likely to play it better.

I also think that the addition of new instances is great, however maybe not introduce them with an expansion, just add on. There are many raiding guilds that haven't even hit "The Black Temple" yet, and many more that aren't clearing instances such as "Serpentshrine Cavern". I realize that this isn't Blizzards problem, but I do feel that they should be a little more sympathetic to the amount of raiding guilds and the lack of "TOP" guilds per server.

The expansion is going to happen no matter what any of us want. And there are going to be things that people don't like about the expansion. However people who really like the game, and want to see it expand, I feel that it will be a good experience and i'm excited about leveling to 80 (Just kinda UGH about leveling 3 characters again).

I don't think they'll release this expansion for at least another 6 months, but I could be wrong. However when they released "The Burning Crusade" they did say that they were going to try and release one expansion a year after it's release. "The Burning Crusade" is about 6 months in now, and is still going strong. I just think that Blizzard might be getting a little greedy if they start releasing to many expansions to fast.

Aside of the new continent... there isn't really much that interesting to me.

A new hairdoo and differant dance isn't going to affect in anyway my appreciation for the game. It's something to play around with a couple days, i'll grant that, but after a few days its going to be boring.

I love my mage, it farms well, hurts hard in pvp and I like my role in pve. Why would I want to cap yet another deathnight char if I am ever so rarely going to play with him? ... besides lose time on gearing up my mage.

Inscription sounds cool, but I doubt I'll drop my tailoring or enchanting as they have both proven to be great use in TBC, tailoring for hard dps gear / enchanting for that 2k gold leveling 10 levels.


I was kind of hoping to see somekind of solo content/instances, personal quests which are only doable alone, kind of like the fair you have in FF7 if you know what i mean.

I'm enjoying TBC so far but I do agree it's getting a bit repetative and need new content, however with what I have seen so far... I'm not impressed but am looking forward to hear more.

Stickying this (at least for the time being) as I'm sure there will be increasing numbers of people (thinking about) starting threads on the matter come Monday.

They need to fix AV for this expak. Complete re-work IMO.

If you think that's bad, try upgrading your graphics card after you made all your toons. My lock now has a completely different looking face and skin tone with my new card upgrade...she went from being a black warlock to an old lady with a tan. My previous card did not show as much facial details...although it is hilarious to see my old lady strut her stuff (I guess my new card aged her XD ). And its kind of nice that she looks a bit different.

Now, my troll lady on the other hand, looks like the millions of other female trolls out there and could use some serious plastic surgery and a new hairstyle. At the minimum, I wish she could get warpaint like the male trolls do. I don't care if it costs alot of gold or takes alot of rep or questing, please just make it possible to alter my troll's current appearance!

The new main city for Northrend will be Dalaran. The Mages are going to move it to the sky above Northrend and it will be the equivalent of Shatt for the new area. I forgot about this until reminded today and they did say they'd have to script it in before the expansion comes out. That should be interesting to see how they adjust the existing quests in the area.

There's going to be some Dragon related stuff involving the blue and red dragonflights we were told.

There's going to be some heavy content involving titans and the origin of the Dwarves. They didn't say for sure but they hinted that Uldam might be used and there will definitely be a non-ruined city like Uldaman.

We sat through the panal about the movie and while they didn't give many details, they did say the story would be about events that happened about a year before WoW and that the main focus would be from the Alliance point of view.


Today I visited the expansion content for another 20 minute session on a pre-made Rogue. I spent more time exploring and found some interesting areas and an invisible wall blocking me from going further. I also got a 'blue' drop that said it was a World drop and that it would be something cool if this wasn't Blizzcon. :P Figures I'd get a blue when it doesn't count. Still, I had fun and managed to not only kill a level 71 Wolf but killed his level 71 buddy that joined in the fight and that's not bad for a level 70 Rogue with only a few skills on the bar and only about half the talents allocated. LoL

Looking for what I can about DKs.

DKs can DW Two-handers?

Hero Classes are openable for all races? You just have to be able to unlock the quest line and complete them? Sort of like FFXI advanced jobs.


Anything about the release date? 08 sounds about right.

In response to mike's post:

I accidentally mis-read some of the information on the Gamespot article. The new character slot thing has been corrected.

Also, I'm sure Blizzard would like to release more than one hero class on release date, but will probably be unable to due to the aforementioned "balancing nightmare".

No, completing the quest line unlocks the Hero class for your account and then you can create a Deathknight as a new character. Your existing character gains no benefits from this aside from quest rewards and XP.

Edited, Aug 5th 2007 12:46pm by Efreem

Rune runes?

Not many people who raid will get all the way to BT, MH especially if there only casual. Sucks.

I'd rather skip a few raids and get a full new xpac. They setup the serious raids for a select few people, those guilds with 40-60 hardcore dedicated members, who raid 5-7 times a week for 3-5 hours a session. Theres quite a number of these people, but for everyone else it just gets boring. I'm very happy a new xpac is coming, and I can care less that I'll never see Mt Hyjal or black temple before it launches.

Slow down there, Negative Nancy. There wasn't exactly a huge influx of raiding paladins and shamans in TBC; if anything, there are far fewer of them than other classes.



What on earth are you basing this assumption on? Blizzard said that they will be no more powerful than the other classes.



Blizz said that there will be some mechanism to make 1-68 easier.

But hey, if you want to play WAR, I'm not stopping you.

"The O-boards is up in arms right now". What else is new? That bunch of whiners complaining about unfounded rumors has always been a continuing thing. Shame on you for listening to the O-boards. The ONLY things that you can believe there are in blue. Just about everything else is speculation and rumor.

Am I the only one who's super-psyched about all new 1-60 content? I'm so tired of the same old Azeroth that I have a hard time leveling my alts. Maybe with this expansion I can finally have another high level character.

Im just excited about the new talents/abilities of Paladins to level 80. Hopefully Ret gets some love in this exp.

I can confirm this - it's being made by Legendary Pictures (the guys who did "300" and "Batman Begins") in association with Vivendi-Universal.

guys when it will be realeased ??

I hope that, if they do this, it doesn't suck like many of the D&D movies.

Anyway, I agree with most of you that level cap should not be risen so fast. However, my main concern is that most of the player base has not delved into TBC deeply. I mean, faction-wise only, there is a lot to do for all crafters. PVE-wise, there still is much to do in instances and raids.


Edited, Aug 6th 2007 8:59am by Abidos

I don't know if this has been mentioned much, but... I rolled originally on a PVE server. I've been thinking of rerolling PVP, but having to start over is rather daunting... regardless, from a PVE that likes to PVP one of the things I am most looking forward to in the new expansion is a zone that is PVP flagged even on PVE servers!

What? You didn't hear that Onyxia is going to be the new warlock pet? :P

Seriously, y'all need to check out the interview with J. Allen Brack, on Gamespot (WotLK, Interview 1). Lots of interesting info nuggets there, including:

-Death Knight will be an alt (which should mean it won't replace your character, else it could not be an alt).

-Flying Mounts. You won't be able to use your flying mount when you first arrive in Northrend, as they want you to appreciate the scope of the land. However, at some point you will be able to use a flying mount. There will be new flying mounts, and it isn't clear if you'll be able to use your old flying mount, from this interview. Seems that this is an area they're still working on.

Reading some of these posts makes me look forward to the next expansion even more, because maybe some of the noob 70s will finally up and quit. Then, maybe, all their friends would quit at around level 30 as a result of their being no level 70s, who are too inadequate to run instances for their level, to run them through Gnomer. Perhaps PUG'ing would be an option again.

I would expect that early Lich gear would be superior to end game BC gear. Why on Azeroth would you even play if your gear is going to transfer for an extended period of time? Getting to level 71 will be the next best thing to getting tier 6 gear for most players that just straight up suck at instancing or PvP (of course it really isn't too hard to rep farm).

I'm looking forward to the expansion. Meanwhile, I still look forward to instancing my way to greater tier gear, even though I know it'll be antequated by the next expansion. It's all part of the fun.

I think that the new PvP will be like the Gurubashi Arena, where if you step into the zone, you auto-flag, and when you step out, you unflag.

I'm concerned about Inscription and it's MATS.
I'm wondering how to aquire the mats... like... Disenchanting? Will Enchanting become a mat gathering skill like skinning?

*gulp*

Also, I'm looking forward to the Inscription and Enchanting sellers competing in the trade channel.

>:D